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Re: [anthroposophy] Re: UFO/Astral Being Exchange part 10

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  • Kees Kromme
    ... From: Bradford Riley To: anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: UFO/Astral Being Exchange
    Message 1 of 8 , Oct 4, 2001
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      Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:58 PM
      Subject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: UFO/Astral Being Exchange part 10

      >From: "jeff auen" <pacbay@...>
      >Subject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: UFO/Astral Being Exchange part 10
      >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:53:35 -0700

      This statement in the argument:

      Anthroposophy can be used for some paranormal interpretations but it is
      inadequate and antiquated in dealing with phenomena now happening since the

      Bradford writes;

      There seems to be a profound inadequate comprehension of how deep the
      research is that was launched by this 20th century initiate
      k@ it would be interesting to research what Steiner said about an Ahriman School (under!the earth, GA240, 20-7-1924) and what blach magic is in his opinion. he also speaks about the undernature fenomena, about mechanical spiders made by man with high intelligence and much more..
      perhaps he said more on several items then we know, while the words he used are a bit different from the vocabulair used by the ones who think in ufo-terms.
      gretings kees
    • jeff auen
      Bradford, I think it is also important to be exposed to all that our modern culture has to offer. We are told that RS read the daily paper and maybe went to
      Message 2 of 8 , Oct 5, 2001
        I think it is also important to be exposed to all  that our modern culture has to offer. We are told that RS read the daily paper and maybe went to films at times (?) just to keep a pulse on culture and trends. Our job of staying informed is much more demanding by sheer content and the spectrum of good and bad. 
         It is very hard for some people sensitive to spiritual life to interact with "borderland science research" without jumping to conclusions or judgments (evoking vague influences of Ahriman or Lucifer is like saying, its wet in the rain but why is it raining).
         If  you mean "spiritual science" in its pure and broadest form (which is what I think RS meant not just AP) then we are in complete agreement. We do need this perspective and much more if we are to understand the strange manipulation of elemental forces and intentions of beings invisible to us - and this is only the beginning!  We would be very surprised in 50 to 100 years from now  or next time we come back to see what will be uncovered in etheric sciences. 
         I also think there are great manipulating spirits inspiring the horror and sci fi genres. The shades are being drawn further and creating much fear and distortion of spiritual realities in the young. Psychedelics and diverse spiritual practices of the 60's and 70's may have been fragmenting but it at least gave us a glimpse of  spiritual and astral states. I cannot say the same of the virtual media and hard drug use now going on and the arts that produce horrific images of abuse or degradation.
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        Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:05 PM
        Subject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: UFO/Astral Being Exchange part 10

        >From: "jeff auen" <pacbay@...>
        >Subject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: UFO/Astral Being Exchange part 10
        Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:22:21 -0700

        Jeff writes;

        He may have dug deeper than anyone else but somehow he brought back the gold
        shaped in a particular form that blurs the edges of esoteric science and
        history. My overall impression is: can one be a "spiritual scientist"
        without embracing AP.

        Bradford writes;

        Now Jeff, I have meet a 65% squeamish thinkers in AP. I think Spiritual
        Science clears the soul easier than calling into question Steiner against
        the social factors of what the AP has become. The social mess that exists in
        some of the AP cannot shame the work of Steiner.

        But, as to how to enter into X-files and Rod Serling and Aliens; as an
        American you have had to have interest in current culture. Many of the
        squeamish dislike and cannot digest the forces we are in, in culture today.
        It makes them very nervous and ill. Electro magnetic America in Toby Hoppers
        Poltergeist and the ancient overlays of the Demeter and Persephone myths as
        well as the X-files probing in psychology and biology and including Stephen
        King in The Green Mile and many of his other works... have clear concept
        studies that bring us back to the forerunner of this research in the
        twentieth century Harrison and Steiner and others of course. I have some of
        Harrisons work and Steiner fully respected him, including the eighth sphere
        research which enters into the real threat of the what the Matrix film
        outlines. These are real fairy tales for the twentieth century. I mean that
        in the best possible way.

        Recently I asked another list what Rubidium an alloy of Gold had to do with
        recent scientific experiments to fully stop Light.  Light that travels at
        186,000 miles a second, stopped cold.  So they say. Except for the light
        that Angels and Humans use in their thinking, which is faster.  No answer
        from the Squeam brigade?

        I asked about the Blue Gene project where flesh, tissue is being folded and
        from computer Pedaflops. Steiner talked of this future technology in Man as
        Symphony when he spoke of the harmonics and vibratory fields of the cow.
        Tesla could have offered the whole of technology at no cost were it not for
        J.P. Morgan and stupid Edison.

        Now we have something that is hijacking elmental forces out of the cosmic
        system.. but to think it through is where we need Spiritual Science.  Light
        and Tissue is really Body and Blood, (This is my body, and this is my blood)
        to have emancipated forces and elemental beings into current technology
        enough to make human forms from decayed chemical ether light, through
        electricity and magnetism and begin a new flesh code on earth and to
        misunderstand and emancipate the force of conscience and Light from the
        human being in our current understanding of Fission is to fall into the trap
        of imagining that the Christ event is not a scientific fact as well as a
        historical one.

        Maybe you need to read The Angels Work in the Astral body and Man as
        Symphony to get a glimpse of just how much Steiner could afford to say. You
        forget that by just saying that you could get rid of rabbits by burning them
        and sprinkling the ashes around a farm so that the astral body of the
        rabbits or vermin would be repelled, could leap to the vision in Schindlers
        List.  Maybe Steiner and Harrison and many others couldn't spell the whole
        thing out at times; but we are living it now.

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