Re: Pennysylvania esoteric?Quaker esotericism?
- Thanks, Bradford, and hello all who are interested in this thread.
Your reply(Bradford) to my questions on esoteric Quakerism and
esoteric Pennsylvania (Anthropops at Kimberton, Amish, Philadephia,
etc.) is good to read and helpful, particularly with what you say of
the listening/stillness of Quaker practice as a way of tapping the I
AM and rising above the astral/sentient, and reaching into the "John
Gospel Word field" is wonderful.
That John Gospel (In the beginning was the Word...) keeps coming back
to me, and has been so important to me since childhood (although for
periods of time I forget it, at least outwardly).
I do attend (irregularly, so far) Quaker (or Friends)
meetings--presently one of the two Meetings in Baltimore, MD, and MD
is not far from Penn., and MD also had a strong Quaker presence
historically. I am an anthropop, yet feel drawn to something in the
Quaker way, as does my partner.--
((By the way, I've also attended Unitarian Universalist churches (some
call them "fellowships", not churches), and also find something
important in the openness and commitment to social justice (what the
Quakers call peace and justice testimony and witness, I believe). R.W.
Emerson, admired by many anthropops, had something to do with the
founding of one Unitarian group or another, right?))
Well, I will seek more on George Fox and William Penn. Also on Roger
Williams, and his ideals of "religous freedom." And yes, the founding
of the United States (colonies, etc.) seems replete with complex
- In a message dated 8/6/2001 12:55:18 PM, holderlin66@... writes:
<< Quaker Query?
The positive forces of the Declaration and the symbols of the U.S. (which
are very occult, note dollar) were laced with early Quaker contributions.
Quakers have trained themselves in an occult listening stillness. When the
higher I Am is active or inspired, there is a certain tuning field. The
Quaker group will sit in silence as an occult stillness bring about a
powerful spiritual hearing and listening force within the group. When a
person does speak the inner soul forces and the high aspect of listening
into the ego of the other, create a very advanced art of what Marjorie Spock
depicted as Goethean conversation. In this field of Quaker development a
John Gospel Word field is tapped.
The depth of the forces that have inspired the early incubation of America
and that surround many thoughts related to anti-slavery, freedom of speech,
brotherhood, the realm of the angels, have been politically drawn from the
still pool of profound Quaker listening. They respect the freedom of the
I cannot say that I have documented any of my research into this matter, but
I have rubbed shoulders with several stunning Quaker friends.
The relation to occult hearing and 'those who have ears to hear' have
allowed a strong trickle of inspiration into the early political foundations
of America. Steiner has lectures on occult hearing but the etheric forces of
those families engaged in Quaker life, as simple, honest and straightforward
goodness as most of them are, from childhood on, the purity of etheric
forces seem to prepare for what is known as Manas or Spirit Self.
It is a stage abovetheintellectual/political/legal soul forces and meditates
itself just above the consciousness soul. That which does not allow the
astral body and sentient soul to disturb the listening process but waits for
the higher ego to overshadow the human being, the higher being or angel, and
in those words and from those words, Manas or substance is generated, is all
part of the Quaker process.
Where words begin to have an etheric or quiet force that is trained with
certain aspects indicated in KOHW by R.S. a true force incubates as far as
I can tell. I do not think that the Quaker groups are conscious of what
realms they tap, someone must have been, but even as an instinctive capacity
it reflects a certain need in a persons incarnation to find a family geared
in that direction. (one family, the Brightons???) not sure, merged with
Anthroposophy and were very interesting.
Anyways that geographic area where a form of spiritus-loci permeated with
organic farmers, The Amish, slower technology, Occult listening, warm inner
family relations might be holding secret elemental forces, Kimberton etc..
that maintain a curative elemental core for some future spiritual mission.
Perhaps that spiritual geographical field has a preserving force that bears
a future embryo of the American Philadelphia impulse. There is a mystery
there for sure!!!
>>It does indeed account for the 'specialness' of Philadelphia.
As a modern-day example of being raised Quaker, I would point to Joan
Just as Steiner said that all of anthroposophy may be found in embryo in
the writings of Emerson (who was also influenced by we Quakers), so too it
can be found germinating in the words spoken by the Spirit at meeting.