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Re: [anthroposophy] Genoa: The Truth Must Get Out, by Stefano

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  • JadMcCurdy@aol.com
    Dear Starman, I m afraid your views expressed here are entirely inaccurate. Who is protesting? It is not just elite Western middle class people. Yes, a certain
    Message 1 of 10 , Jul 25, 2001
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      Dear Starman,

      I'm afraid your views expressed here are entirely inaccurate.

      Who is protesting? It is not just elite Western middle class people. Yes, a
      certain portion of the movement fits this description, but there was also a
      large working class presence in Genoa, as well as a large presence of youth
      (who themselves are not middle class), and a large presence of the
      marginalized and the urban dispossessed (check out Naomi Klein's article at Z
      Net). Moreover, protesters came from all over Europe and North America and
      also came from South America. I cannot confirm that African and Asian
      representatives were present, but I'm sure they were to some degree.

      Moreover, if you go to Indymedia you will find that solidarity demonstrations
      have occured around the world, from Portland, Oregon, to Argentina. To be
      exact, solidarity demonstrations occured in the following locations:

      "Solidarity demonstrations against the G8 summit and the police violence
      that has characterized it, have been organized worldwide in Amsterdam,
      Athens, Barcelona, Bologna, Boston, Brussels, Buenos Aires, Finland,
      Greece, Helsinki, Istanbul, London, Los Angeles, Madison, WI, Manchester,
      Melbourne, Miami, Milan, Montreal, Naperville, IL, New York, Oslo, Paris,
      Peru, Philadelphia, Portland, Rome, Salzburg, S�o Paulo, San
      Francisco/Berkeley, Stockholm, Sydney, Toronto, Turkey, Urbana, IL,
      Vancouver, Vienna, and Washington DC and in many other cities in Austria,
      Canada, Germany, Italy, UK, USA, and elsewhere." (Souce, Indymedia)

      As for the idea that the Third World is despirate for a piece of the free
      trade pie? This is also a gross distortion of reality. Yes, elites in the
      Third World want to enter into free trade agreements like the FTAA, but who
      speaks for the people? What is it that they want? Do you think Korean
      workers, who regularly battle police in the streets, want a piece of pie?
      Third World countries the world over attempted in the post-colonial period to
      assert national identities and many to form valid social democratic systems.
      Many even attempted to initiate real socialism, which is not contrary to the
      destiny of the freedom of the individual. Take Nicargua, for example.

      All of this is not to say that I fully agree with the approach the
      anti-corporate led globalization is taking. I feel protest is grossly
      outweighing efforts to build the movement independent of governments, which
      is the only way we will move toward a better world and threefolding. I
      certainly do not sympathize with the violent factions like the Black Bloc.
      However, the point of my posting RE: Genoa was not to support violent
      protest, but to reveal what the mass media and governments are hiding from
      the public.

      Besides, I think it would be a travesty for an Anthroposophical group to pass
      over a world event as significant and disturbing as Genoa without at least
      attempting to share our views, knowledge, and spiritual insights.

      Sincerely,

      John McCurdy
    • Guillermo Romero Ibarrola
      ... My 2 cents (of a Mexican Peso, of course): For those of you interested and able to understand spanish, there is an excelent cartoon on the Genova events
      Message 2 of 10 , Jul 25, 2001
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        >Besides, I think it would be a travesty for an Anthroposophical group to pass
        >over a world event as significant and disturbing as Genoa without at least
        >attempting to share our views, knowledge, and spiritual insights.


        My 2 cents (of a Mexican Peso, of course):

        For those of you interested and able to understand spanish, there is an
        excelent cartoon on the Genova events from one of Mexico's best journalists
        at http://www.reforma.com/Carton/calderon/htm/20010722.htm. There Calderon
        puts two pictures side by side, both famous: the one of the cornered Land
        Rover been attacked by an anonimuos crowd (and the also anonimous armed arm
        killing one of the crowd) and the other, the one of the single young men
        stoping the tank in Bejin 1989, where Calderon notes that the dignity of
        the manifestator induces that the person controling the tank find his own
        human dignity and decides to stop the machine.

        I have found that a middle path is normally the best alternative, and the
        one that eventually finds its way and takes place. Changes in the world
        are gradual, we already face global markets as opposed to local markets,
        (and in truth, we have always been global, and have no other alternative
        than being Global, from many perspectives: economic, environmental,
        spiritual). (ie. "Global Village, Spaceship Earth", Gai, etc.)

        The real problem is not globalization, but individual or group agendas that
        try to derive benefits and priviledges from others. (economic, social,
        natural resources, or just pretending to be the holders of Truth for a
        while). That is the root problem for all human conflicts and the only
        solution I forsee is the "unity of conciousness", which I am most certain
        will come as a result of extremes finding a middle temporary solution,
        until the extremes become gradually less extreme, and the middle will be
        the common ground.

        In Anthroposophic terms I see the globalophobics acting on a luciferic
        impulse and the "8 plus Russia" acting on a arihmanic impulse, the solution
        would be in the middle again, in the Christ impulse, and that is an impulse
        of "unconditional Love", of unity, isn't?.

        I see such conflicts as a learning experience for us Humans, a part of the
        game we call life, which is nothing more than a Game of learning. No one
        at the extremes is right, but there is a purpose for all.

        Greetings

        (All of the above of course IMHO)

        Guillermo
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