Re: Fwd: Vorstand Discord: Prokosophy vs. Bodosophy
Re: Aristotelians and Platonists
--- In email@example.com, "Scott Olmsted"
> All this talk about Platotelians got me remembering something Brian
> RSC said at a conference on this very matter. It was kind of offthe cuff
> and a long while ago but I think he said that there were some who hadmovement.
> "special" incarnation circumstances that were in both streams. He said
> these people tended to sit on the sidelines and lob bombs into the
> I thought it made sense: Categorizers needing a dramatic push, ordramatists
> thinking they could channel the chaos with some well placed fireworks.Hi Scott,
> For what it's worth...
> >Val here pointed out something I missed. You were right about the
> >streams being over and under, but that's all ancient history now
> >because both streams are now incarnated together, as Dr. Steiner
> >predicted for the end of the 20th century.
> >And boy oh boy, do we have scores to settle!!!
Thank you so much for your contribution here. I certainly more than
resemble that remark. It kind of fits me to a "T", doesn't it? The T
Plus Brian Gray and I were classmates together back when both of us
were attending Rudolf Steiner College in the early 80's, so, from that
spirit-rich environment, I also learned exactly which sacred
proportions of which alchemical "gunpowder and nitroglycerine"
elements, as it were, to custom make those projectiles for later use.
Let's just say that Brian Gray would have many more stories to tell
about me than I would about him, only because he behaved so goodly
while I behaved so badly. And it's human nature to remember much more
vividly the "behaving badly" stories than the "behaving goodly"
So here I had built up this stockpile of "Platotelian" WMD's but was
so frustrated because I really had no outlet for my destiny calling.
And then, in the mid 90's, along came the Internet.
And I've been in "hog heaven" ever since.
By the way, Scott, since you brought this up, maybe you could act as a
kind of unofficial scorekeeper. To be karmically fair, I should lob
grenades equally into both camps. I would request you to let me know
if you feel I am bombing too much of one side and too little the other.
On the other hand, perhaps equality is an abstract ideological
consideration because my own sense is that I throw the bombs where
they are karmically needed, and that means that I may have to
concentrate on one camp for a long time.
Anyway thanks again for unlurking. I hope my Scorpionic destructivity
will be right kind of spiritual demolition work that opens up the
forum and the field for some new anthroposophical thinking and insights.
Tom, if a 'T' reveals your double nature, then does my Car-ol mean that I embrase both streams as well?
As for your scorpionic destructiveness, I can gladly say that through having raised two boys, (though perhaps girls may have given the same effect) I received the necessary 'educational opportunity' to begin to discover how to appreciate and recognise the fine balance between the surface message with the underlying intent.
Perhaps many familial conflicts would soften if parents exercised more of an ear to their children's underlying messages when they are conveyed through spontaneous and highly unpragmatic 'forms'.
And so have I 'indirectly' identified Tom as still knowing a 'youthful nature'?
You see Tom, and as you know quite well, Anthroposophy is really here, where all pretense and glamour have no place, but where all human life simply and naturally filters through. c.
- Tom wrote:
> So here I had built up this stockpile of "Platotelian" WMD's but wasI wonder if this echos the feeling of the Platonists who (supposedly)
> so frustrated because I really had no outlet for my destiny calling.
> And then, in the mid 90's, along came the Internet.
couldn't incarnate until now.
> And I've been in "hog heaven" ever since."I've never been to heaven
but I've been to Oklahoma."
- The ancient Greek injunction, 'Man, know yourself,' out of the old
mysteries has been transformed today into a mighty question: 'Can you,
O Man, recognize yourself as microcosmic and macrocosmic being
inhabiting two worlds that are united in your heart? Discover the
threefoldness of your essential being, the fourfoldness of the life
body that permeates you, the sevenfoldness of the soul forces that
animate you, the twelvefoldness reflected in the eternal nature of the
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