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  • carol
    that Thomas Aquinas knew in his heart and soul would not lead to the etheric observational skills that fully arose in Steiner and partially arose in Goethe
    Message 1 of 47 , Oct 3, 2007
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      "that Thomas Aquinas knew in his heart and soul would not lead to the etheric observational skills that fully arose in Steiner and partially arose in Goethe made St. Thomas fight the invasion of the icy Ahrimanic forces that spread from Nominalism and Arabistic thinking into the intellectual Soul."

      I've read in no other but a Waldorf basher site that at some point in his life, Steiner mentioned that it now falls upon the white race to develop the '?forces' of the intellect. Of course the WC find this racists.

      Could Steiner have been, in a suggestive way, wishing to allude to a hidden fact that 'members of the white race' would be responsible for carrying the forces of the intellect over to etheric observation?

      If so, are we to assume that the etheric stream of the white race can take this on, on it's own?

      Or, could etheric streams from religious impulses come into the mix as it where, to fill the white individual with 'stronger astral forces' so as to better 'carry the work' through to it's end? (expecially Judeo Christian)

      And what of the 'as if given' unwavering combative qualities which Arabistic thinking and being still exert into this day?

      Could it be possible that it was an evolutionary necessity that Arabistic thinking be taken up by the white race, and brought over to etheric observation?

      Could 'unwavering and combative thinking' exist of itself in this world had not the Arab race been it's initial 'ambassador' and remained it's ever present 'guardian'?

      Note, in today's world, it is NOT Arabs who lead the Illuminati agenda, it is white race Jews and Jesuites.

      It is not Arabs who own Hollywood, nor Las Vegas.

      And inspite of a natural ability to persistant strong nomilistic thinking, the Arab Muslim is given

      direct recognition of it's own culture's aritistic beauty, link to the natural world and pious disposition.

      Doesn't look like Ahriman's got too much room to grow there.

      Maybe this has a little to do with why they are being hit on SO hard.

      Maybe they're waiting on the White race to catch on to the riddles, and MOVE ON with Michael's work.

      Presented for reflection.



      --- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, "holderlin66" <holderlin66@...> wrote:
      > The Fall of Weimar and the Fall of Munich, both were powerful points of
      > departure for the hopes of the Michael School to prevent the full thrust
      > of Ahrimanic Intelligence. Steiner knew what he was doing. The core of
      > Munich would attract those seekers interested in Physics and Light and
      > Steiner wedged the design and building into Munich as the Johannes Bau.
      > The name itself focused on the higher devachan Light. The Goetheanum is
      > a name true to the same cognitive observational skills that developed
      > from Aristotle and from Goethe that leads the seeker from the
      > intellectual soul to the Consciousness Soul. Woven in Goethe's theory
      > of Colors, was the Faust experience where also Light and Shadow had
      > moral impressions and moral beings, exactly like Michael and exactly as
      > the Christ arising in the Etheric. These were matters of light and the
      > observational skills of the Consciousness Soul.
      > Goethe was and was thrown under the bus by the German people, but Goethe
      > was for a short period of time, a small window of history, solidly
      > cosmopolitan and representative of everything that humanity should be.
      > This drifted, flowed and saturated right over to our own Ralph Waldo
      > Emerson. Emerson was once a Roman, a rational Roman who had written
      > merely a scant few paragraphs about the Christ Event, but Steiner spent
      > energy to trace how the cognitive faculties of Emerson recognized
      > Goethe. The world had recognized Goethe and the German people were
      > invaded by what Steiner knew was also coming.
      > What was coming was a significant battle for the appropriate approach to
      > Zarathustra and the Christ. What was coming were a horde of misfit
      > incarnations that were tossed out of the spiritual World when the battle
      > of Heaven shifted the Ahrimanic forces to the plain of Earth and dumped
      > the Intelligence that was infected with Ahriman into their new home and
      > their new heaven, the brains and intellectual soul of festering and
      > sentimental humanity. First Stop, Germany....but world wide they were
      > dumped, along with their human vehicles, human hosts into the stream of
      > humanity and human intellects. Steiner knew that the dates 1879 and the
      > immense streaming events overhead would impact Earth with souls
      > attracted to oppose the Warm light of the Christ and rich etheric vision
      > and truth, with cold lies and hatred. It was coming and it would come
      > straight through the intellects of human beings.
      > I was born in 1949 and rolled into the American stream. Figuratively I
      > have had an interest in the destiny of Holderlin and his relation to
      > Goethe and the strange factors that allowed me to slip into the stream
      > of Anthroposophy and attend in German and English, the Goetheanum in my
      > twenties. But for both celebrations of Goethe and the after echoes of
      > the fall of Germany, Leo Strauss plays his role even in the essay below.
      > Our problem today, is not merely a figurative interest in Mephisto....
      > however the conception of Mephisto has managed to saturate itself into
      > the system of human imagination, but actual thinking cognition and
      > actual substance is lacking in i-tard university fouled human beings who
      > have walked away with nothing but nihilism, hypocrisy and acute petty
      > selfishness that has been exiled, exiled from the bridge to Light and
      > the bridge to Truth that exists in the Science of the Spirit and the
      > first opening words of the John Gospel.
      > The playing field today, right now, currently, when we BE HERE NOW, is
      > that in 2007 we are looking at Good Germans, Nazis and Leo Strauss and
      > now good Americans, good Anthros and utterly Nominalists and Arabistic,
      > ahriman John the Baptist Neocons. What had happened to Germany is now
      > happening in America. Neoplatonism, Aristotle and the Islamic spread of
      > Arabistic, tainted Aristotle.... that Thomas Aquinas knew in his heart
      > and soul would not lead to the etheric observational skills that fully
      > arose in Steiner and partially arose in Goethe made St. Thomas fight the
      > invasion of the icy Ahrimanic forces that spread from Nominalism and
      > Arabistic thinking into the intellectual Soul. Today the Sentient Soul
      > and Intellectual Soul are tapped and trapped in a MSM bubble swirling
      > with SPIN, lies and absolute evil intent. And the Good American, while
      > upset, finds the overthrow of such murdering monsters, discomforting.
      > How do we get rid of something that one remembers how powerfully Steiner
      > fought to thrust back the invading darkness...
      > The Cunning of the Sorathian Mind in Mr. H. Lector - True Sorathian
      > cunning
      > Steiner appealed to Reason and stood in the midst of WW I. Anthros,
      > thousands upon thousands more, than the poor crew of the first Anthro
      > impulses, thousands of Anthros are here, daily fighting for every inch
      > of Michael Intelligence in every child, in every biodynamic garden, in
      > every Word from Eurythmy and here, in the realm of numbed adult
      > thinking, even Adult Education, like Emerson College and Steiner Schools
      > everywhere.
      > We are in a better position today, but we find that here in this
      > Michaelmas era, our elders and the Goetheanum and the vast periphery of
      > hundreds of groups around the world, are putting up as potent a fight
      > for reason, as is possible. As potent a fight for clarity and intiation
      > science and the light as is possible, given the weaknesses of our own
      > human natures. Given the fact that we are bound and tied to forces in
      > human development that are indicated by both our Christic, Luciferic and
      > Ahrimanic forces that flow through all of us.
      > All that is needed is that we recognize the moral indicators of which
      > Being of reason or unreason we should consciously follow. The fact that
      > most of humanity are unconscious means that the path of unreason and
      > instinct draws them towards certain forces in themselves which they
      > refuse to bring up to cognition. Steiner fought with the tools of
      > reason and higher devachan intelligence. Our understanding of history
      > and the Fall of Germany is warped. We are required to pass exams and
      > pass through history and political science that has no moral/spiritual
      > root core. So Anthros must be the wedge that connects and draws lines
      > to events and also must recognize when others stumble towards the right
      > strength of where true Michael forces align themselves with the human
      > soul. Do that in remembrance of him. Do this in expectation of meeting
      > Michael Strength and facing souls around us who are in the midst of the
      > Stigmata and are strong students of Rudolf Steiner.
      > What is interesting for us to consider in the Stigmata events impacting
      > Anthroposophy, is that these Stigmata events have broken forth with the
      > new and potent insights from Spiritual Science itself, Spiritual Science
      > and the Christ Event itself. Which means that something of the
      > underground church and the new cognition of the Christ has surfaced and
      > opened the potent forces through Anthroposophy herself. We might raise
      > the issues of 33 years, 66 years and 99 years... three periods of
      > thirty-three, but here rising up from within Anthroposphy herself comes
      > a powerful indicator of the penetration of an impulse that has surfaced
      > in a certain individual. Yet friends, Michael Intelligence is
      > surfacing and has surfaced in thousands upon thousands of souls. Judith
      > is a strong indicator but everwhere where Michael students actually
      > research and do productive growth, work and living devachan maturation,
      > reveals the wash and penetration of the heart forces WE WILL NEED, and
      > the cognitive forces WE WILL NEED to face the immense
      > Neocon/1998/Sorathian surge to plant the Ahrimanic in the freeest of the
      > laziest of the thinking countries with the most destructive attitudes
      > and mindsets. America.
      > Bradford brought previously;
      > "If it hadn't happened so recently in history, the whole entire massive
      > amazing mess would simply be impossible to grasp. And what is more
      > interesting is that somehow Anthros don't understand how immense
      > Orwellian/Ahrimanic and problematic all this is. In fact most Anthros
      > would stand in your face and deny even that there is such a thing as
      > Ahrimanic forces in the motives and instincts of human will. Why are
      > Anthros so spoiled, weak and limp when they have the intense examples
      > and moral tools that Steiner asked us to use? Go figure! Do they think
      > that Anthroposophy is some little religious sect to hide in with strange
      > and quaint beliefs? Does the sweet and simple life of an Anthro seem
      > safe and cotton ball bounded so that all we need to do is live off the
      > memory of sweet Christ sayings that Steiner wrought with the depth of
      > Michael Intelligence in a vital confronation with a storm front of
      > approaching Ahrimanic forces? Maybe we need to understand Michaelmas
      > and Courage in a light that is not so safe and feeling immune from the
      > jagged destruction that now represents the American Psyche."
      > http://www.tannerlectures.utah.edu/lectures/Lepenies_01.pdf
      > <http://www.tannerlectures.utah.edu/lectures/Lepenies_01.pdf>
      > "It's time now to come back to the devil. In my Šrst lecture I
      > mentioned the two Goethe polls that were conducted in Germany in 1949
      > and Šfty years later.5 One of the more interesting results of these
      > polls is the brilliant career that Mephisto has made for himself in the
      > West.
      > In 1949, when the Germans were asked which character in Goethe's
      > drama Faust fascinated them most, 18% voted for Faust, 12% for Gretchen,
      > and only 7% for Mephisto. In 1999, however, the preferences have turned
      > around: in West Germany, 12% are now fascinated most by Mephisto and a
      > mere 10% by Faust. In the East, not much has changed, at least not at
      > Šrst glance: 24% vote for Faust, 18% for Mephisto. The differences
      > between East and West become even greater when only those are asked who
      > have actually read Faust: now 34% in the West prefer Mephisto, 20%
      > Faust. In the East, the result is exactly the reverse: 33% vote for
      > Faust, 24% for Mephisto. These results have been interpreted as an
      > indicator of a deep change of value-orientation and mentality observable
      > in Germany over the past thirty years.
      > "Be practical, my dear good sir!" Mephisto urges Faust. The
      > Germans seem to have followed his advice—more so than Faust ever
      > did. The times are over when John Dewey could call Germany a country
      > where even cavalry generals relied on philosophy to bring home practical
      > lessons. There are no cavalry generals anymore, and philosophy has come
      > down from its high horse.
      > For a long time, the majority of the German population could not embrace
      > the idea that enjoying one's life could be a legitimate way of
      > giving meaning to it. When asked whether having fun could give meaning
      > to one's life, only 26% answered yes in 1974, but 56% did so
      > twenty-Šve years later. Hedonism and the pleasure principle, as
      > embodied by Mephisto, reign supreme. The East-West divide still exists,
      > but it points more to problems of the past then to troubles for the
      > future.
      > The younger people are, the more they prefer Mephisto to Faust, in the
      > West as well as in the East. There is no longer, as Faust whimpered,
      > "A curse upon vain property, / On wife and child and husbandry! / A
      > curse on mammon, when his gold / Lures us to rash heroic deeds, / Or
      > when his easeful arms enfold / Us softly, pampering all our needs!"
      > Rather, Germans in East and West are eager to follow Mephisto's
      > advice: "Strike out, be free, / And learn what the good life can
      > be."6 Mephisto symbolizes a society for whose members private
      > well-being counts, not public ideology.7
      > In the German conception of democracy, social welfare plays a central
      > role. More than anywhere else in the West, the legitimacy of democracy
      > is inextricably bound to a good performance of the economy and the
      > functioning of an all-embracing system of social security. The
      > abbreviation SWR, Ernst Fränkel once mockingly said, stands for
      > German democracy, which must be deŠned as a Society without Risk.8
      > In 1930, when Thomas Mann tried to defend the declining Weimar Republic,
      > he was aware of the intricate linkage between the legitimacy of the
      > existing political system and the performance of the economy. His
      > courageous public speech was called "Appeal to Reason." In the
      > September elections, reason had been dealt a terrible blow: the National
      > Socialist Party had increased its share of the vote from 2.6% to 18.3%
      > thereby making it the second largest party after the Social Democrats.
      > Yet even on this occasion where he vigorously defended the Republic,
      > Thomas Mann still doubted "whether the parliamentary system of
      > western Europe, which Germany took over as being somehow available and
      > convenient after the collapse of the feudal system, is really quite
      > suited to her case; whether it does not in some sense and to some extent
      > warp and do violence to her political ethic."
      > The lack of authenticity prevented the Weimar Republic from winning
      > political legitimacy; the lack of economic security deprived it of
      > massive moral support. A combination of cultural and economic
      > shortcomings doomed the Weimar Republic. It was too much, Mann said, to
      > demand sound political thought from an economically ailing people—a
      > very German sentence indeed.
      > Having said this, Thomas Mann, a nonpolitical man no more but a
      > committed Republican for quite some time, took refuge in "German
      > Culture" again. When he afŠrmed that he did not want to become a
      > praeceptor patriae, what he really wanted to say was almost the
      > opposite: this was a time when—after politics had failed—the
      > poet, the writer, the artist had to act. He proclaimed that form,
      > "be it ever so playful, is akin to the spirit, to what leads one on
      > to social betterment; and art is the sphere in which the conšict
      > between the social and the ideal is resolved."9 Culture had to come
      > to the rescue of the Republic. But it was helpless, as it turned out
      > before long. Four years after Mann had spoken of art as the sphere in
      > which the great conšicts of the times could be solve, his books were
      > burnt in Berlin.
      > [Lepenies] The End of "German Culture" 193
      > [6Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust: Part One, trans. with an
      > introduction by David
      > [Luke (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1987), pp. 48, 49 (v.
      > 1597–1603, 1542–43).
      > [7During the Second World War, when Thomas Mann wrote a novel whose
      > subject
      > [might also be described as the legacy of "German Culture," he
      > could not but name it Doctor
      > [Faustus. When his son Klaus, in 1936, wrote a novel whose subject was
      > the adaptability of
      > [the German mind to any political circumstance, he called it Mephisto.
      > [8 Cf. Ernst Fränkel, Deutschland und die westlichen Demokratien
      > (Stuttgart: Kohlhammer,
      > [1968). Fränkel spoke of the GojR, the "Gesellschaft ohne jedes
      > Risiko."]
      > Depiction of the Ahrimanic so called Satanic and the Legion of souls so
      > infected, that are have been streaming forward into the intellects of
      > human beings on Earth.
      > [Image:Satan, First Angel.jpg]

    • Stephen Hale
      ... China! Correction. Lucifer incarnated in the third millennium before Christ in China, and at the age of forty years was able, for the first time in human
      Message 47 of 47 , Oct 17, 2007
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        --- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Hale"
        <sardisian01@...> wrote:
        > it is said that Lucifer's physical incarnation occurred in the 3rd
        > century before Christ. And this incarnation brought forth the
        > wisdom that allowed the pre-christian mysteries to be understood,
        > even by the power of the intellect. Without the incarnation of
        > Lucifer, even the Mystery of Golgotha would have remained
        > incomprehensible. And this incarnation of Lucifer occurred in

        Correction. Lucifer incarnated in the third millennium before
        Christ in China, and at the age of forty years was able, for the
        first time in human history, to transform the revelations contained
        in the ancient Mysteries; revelations that previously could only be
        experienced directly, into intelligent form. Thus, the wisdom of
        Lucifer began to flow down throughout the third Post-Atlantean
        cultural epoch, in a form guided by intellectual comprehension.

        It is important to understand that guiding the post-atlantean
        cultural epochs, as the underlying motivation, is the process of the
        devolution of the old moon clairvoyance, which had passed over to
        earth evolution with the mineral element. Thus, from the point of
        the last third of the Lemurian (Third) Epoch, all the way to the
        height of the Atlantean (Fourth) Epoch, which can be logically
        traced back to 11,547 BC, this form of direct-perceptive
        clairvoyance of the spiritual worlds was beheld by mankind as a
        continuous presence.

        But it all had to come to an end at some point in order that the
        consciousness befitting earth evolution itself (The Fourth Sphere),
        could commence. So, contained within the post-atlantean cultural
        epochs, beginning with the ancient Indian Epoch (7227 BC), we can
        trace the progressive demise of the Old Moon clairvoyance, which
        passes through the Ego first, then the Astral Body, and finally the
        Etheric Body in the Greek Age (fourth cultural epoch), toward the
        new faculty of thinking, which effectively replaces the old form of

        And that is why thinking has its seat in the etheric body, and its
        expression in the astral body, which is the proper configuration for
        seeing the outer world in projective images of three-dimensional
        objects. Yes, earth evolution involves the sinking of spirit into a
        form called matter, and for a time, the loss of direct spirit
        perception in favor of a materialistic perception, seemingly devoid
        of spirit, yet still existing across a thin veil; the veil of the
        etheric world itself.

        We communicate across this veil, proving that spiritual renewal is
        already working in this fifth cultural epoch.

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