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  • Robert Mason
    To all: ... because I had my head bitten off!) that whenever a person comes to the [Waldorf] movement as a perspective parent or teacher, that they should
    Message 1 of 68 , Jul 23, 2007
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      To all:

      Sometime back, "Christine" wrote:

      >>I have said in the past (only once or twice,
      because I had my head bitten off!) that
      whenever a person comes to the [Waldorf]
      movement as a perspective parent or teacher,
      that they should first be warned that they
      would be getting into something extremely
      dangerous. That there is a real possibility
      that they and their families could face
      concentration camps or execution in the not so
      distant future from their association with this
      movement. Of course we could NEVER say this!
      What would happen to enrollment figures!!?? But
      it is true. We are living in perilous times.
      Some day, historians will look back and say
      "Didn't they realize that they were in an era
      more dangerous than the one leading to
      (Yahoo anthroposophy_tomorrow: Message #32094:
      "I still haven't heard from anybody who has
      actually checked this out.")

      Robert writes:

      Some might dismiss the above as "paranoia", but
      I would stop and think about it a few minutes,
      at least. We all know very well that
      Anthroposophy has always aroused fierce, even
      murderous, opposition: witness "The Fire" and
      the (very probable) poisoning of Steiner
      himself. And those of us who are paying
      attention to current world events (at least
      those of us who are not blinded by prejudice
      against "conspiracy theories" etc.) have to be
      aware that deeply evil forces are working to
      gain world power, have already gained much, and
      are at the point of making a desperate gamble
      for total power. This is becoming so obvious
      that many observers, even non-occultists and
      non-Anthros such a Alex Jones, see that dark
      occultism is behind this power grab.

      And we should be aware that the demonic beings
      who inspire these power occultists have a deep,
      abiding hatred for the Christ and for human
      freedom. It follows that these beings do have
      very unpleasant intentions toward real
      Christianity on Earth, and therefore especially
      toward Anthroposophy as the prime public,
      cultural manifestation of the Christ working
      toward true human freedom. If anyone might
      doubt just how unpleasant these intentions can
      be, one need only consider the mountains of
      human corpses piled up in the last century by
      political power.

      And those of us who keep an eye on the Internet
      probably have some idea of how such hatred
      manifests in the campaign against Anthroposophy
      as being "racist" etc. Many of us have had
      some experience with the "Waldorf Critics", who
      (at least the most active among the regulars
      there) reveal this hatred relentlessly at work.
      Probably most of those WC people are not
      conscious of the forces that move them, or of
      where their efforts are ultimately leading, but
      the destructive, perverse energy is readily
      apparent there. And if one keeps an eye out
      over there, one might sometimes even run across
      some useful information, for instance:

      (Yahoo waldorf-critics: Message #545: "Germany
      is considering to censor Steiner")
      >>Alex Rühle reports that Germany is
      considering whether to censor two volumes from
      the collected works of Rudolf Steiner for
      racist content. A new study by historian Helmut
      Zander - ("Anthroposophie in Deutschland",
      Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht), examines the attitudes
      of this founder of the Waldorf Schools, and
      shows how he reflected the thinking of his day.
      In two lecture series, one from 1908 and the
      other from 1910, Steiner "investigated the
      various human races in terms of their skin
      colour and their standing in the development of
      humankind." In short, says Zander, Steiner
      found "blacks to be an imperfect, earlier
      model, whereas whites are the fulfilment of the
      goal of human evolution... He formulated an
      ethnology in which the terms 'degenerate,' or
      'backward,' or 'future' races was not
      accidental, but rather the result of a well
      planned evolution curriculum."<<

      Robert continues:

      Of course the campaign of destructive
      distortion against Anthroposophy springs from
      causes far deeper than any putative concern
      about so-called "racism", but in this charge of
      "racism" the enemies of Anthroposophy have
      found a bludgeon that sometimes "works" all too
      well in the current political-cultural climate.
      And this bludgeon can be more deadly in much of
      Europe now than in the USA. In much of Europe
      the traditions of "freedom of speech" are much
      weaker than in the USA, and people who say the
      "wrong" things can be, and are, put into prison
      on a regular basis. Here is an instructive
      recent example:

      *The Brussels Journal*
      "Secularist Europe Silences Pro-Lifers and
      From the desk of Paul Belien on Sat, 2007-06-23

      >>Last week, a German court sentenced a 55-year
      old Lutheran pastor to one year in jail for
      "Volksverhetzung" (incitement of the people)
      because he compared the killing of the unborn
      in contemporary Germany to the holocaust. . . .
      Without legalized abortion the number of German
      children would increase annually by at least
      150,000 -- which is the number of legal
      abortions in birth dearth Germany. Pastor
      Johannes Lerle compared the killing of the
      unborn to the killing of the Jews in Auschwitz
      during the Second World War. On 14 June, a
      court in Erlangen ruled that, in doing so, the
      pastor had "incited the people" because his
      statement was a denial of the holocaust of the
      Jews in Nazi-Germany. Hence, Herr Lerle was
      sentenced to one year in jail. Earlier, he had
      already spent eight months in jail for calling
      abortionists "professional killers" -- an
      allegation which the court ruled to be
      slanderous because, according to the court, the
      unborn are not humans. Other German courts
      convicted pro-lifers for saying that "in
      abortion clinics, life unworthy of living is
      being killed," because this terminology evoked
      Hitler's euthanasia program, which used the
      same language. In 2005, a German pro-lifer,
      Günter Annen, was sentenced to 50 days in jail
      for saying "Stop unjust [rechtswidrige]
      abortions in [medical] practice," because,
      according to the court, the expression "unjust"
      is understood by laymen as meaning illegal,
      which abortions are not. . . . <<

      Robert continues:

      The inmates have been running the asylum in
      Germany for a long time, but now they are
      apparently not even pretending to be sane. For
      many years anyone there who publicly expressed
      doubts about the official history of the
      "Holocaust" has been liable to time in the
      slammer, but now even someone who expressed no
      such doubts at all but only likened the
      abortion plague to the putative "Holocaust" has
      been put in prison for . . . "denial of the
      holocaust". When such a legal violation of
      basic liberty expands into such a blatant
      violation of logic itself, one might well
      wonder what violations are coming next.

      It's not much of stretch to see that if
      criticism of abortion could be
      "Volksverhetzung", then promulgation of such
      Anthroposophical "racism" as cited above could
      be just as well. If we don't think that the
      widespread campaign against Anthro "racism"
      isn't working toward such legal attacks,
      especially in Europe, then I think we are being
      naïve indeed. Again, maybe not all these
      "critics" of Anthro "racism" are conscious of
      this tendency, but nevertheless they are in
      fact preparing the ground.

      To get a fuller view of the political climate
      in Europe, we can read more of the article:

      >>In Germany, believing [sic] abortion to be as
      murderous as the holocaust is a crime, and
      educating your own children is a crime too. In
      France, saying that "homosexual behaviour
      endangers the survival of humanity" is a crime,
      and so is the distribution of pork soup to the
      poor. In Belgium, speaking out against
      immigration is a crime. In the latest issue of
      the Dutch conservative magazine Bitter Lemon
      the Dutch author Erik van Goor writes that
      European courts are silencing conservative and
      orthodox citizens. Freedom of speech no longer
      exist, says van Goor. "While many in the West
      still idolize the second-hand fighters for free
      speech, such as [Ayaan] Hirsi Ali and Theo van
      Gogh, the true victims of curtailment are
      deliberately kept under wraps. Hirsi Ali, [Pim]
      Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh were not curtailed by
      the state or by court, Johannes Lerle is. The
      former voiced mere opinions -- expressions of a
      public opinion which one may or may not value
      or believe. The latter -- Dr Lerle -- shows
      that what is at stake is not merely opinions,
      but a moral order which is being questioned; a
      reality of life and death which is at risk."

      >>Hirsi Ali, Fortuyn and van Gogh did not
      defend Europe's traditional Christian moral
      order. People such as Johannes Lerle and
      Christian Vanneste, the French parliamentarian
      who was convicted for "homophobia," do. The
      latter are being persecuted by Western Europe's
      political regimes -- a phenomenon which is
      ignored completely by the Western mainstream
      media, who participate in the persecution.<<

      Robert continues:

      And we can get some idea of what kind of new
      violations of basic liberties are "in the

      >>Next week, the Council of Europe is going to
      vote on a resolution imposing Darwinism as
      Europe's official ideology. The European
      governments are asked to fight the expression
      of creationist opinions, such as young earth
      and intelligent design theories. According to
      the Council of Europe these theories are
      "undemocratic" and "a threat to human rights."

      >>Volksverhetzung is a crime which the Nazis
      often invoked against their enemies and which
      contemporary Germany also uses to intimidate
      homeschoolers. Soon, the German authorities
      will be able to use the same charge against
      people who question Darwin's evolution theory.
      Indeed, next Tuesday, the Council of Europe
      (CoE), Europe's main human-rights body, will
      vote on a proposal which advocates the fight
      against creationism, "young earth" and
      "intelligent design" in its 47 member states.
      According to a report of the CoE's
      Parliamentary Assembly, creationists are
      dangerous "religious fundamentalists" who
      propagate "forms of religious extremism" and
      "could become a threat to human rights." The
      report adds that the acceptance of the science
      of evolutionism "is crucial to the future of
      our societies and our democracies."
      "Creationism, born of the denial of the
      evolution of species through natural selection,
      was for a long time an almost exclusively
      American phenomenon," the report says. "Today
      creationist theories are tending to find their
      way into Europe and their spread is affecting
      quite a few Council of Europe member states. .
      . . [T]his is liable to encourage the
      development of all manner of fundamentalism and
      extremism, synonymous with attacks of utmost
      virulence on human rights. The total rejection
      of science is definitely one of the most
      serious threats to human rights and civic
      rights. . . . The war on the theory of
      evolution and on its proponents most often
      originates in forms of religious extremism
      which are closely allied to extreme right-wing
      political movements. The creationist movements
      possess real political power. The fact of the
      matter, and this has been exposed on several
      occasions, is that the advocates of strict
      creationism are out to replace democracy by
      theocracy. [...] If we are not careful, the
      values that are the very essence of the Council
      of Europe will be under direct threat from
      creationist fundamentalists."

      >>According to the CoE report, America and
      Australia are already on their way towards
      becoming such undemocratic theocracies where
      human and civic rights are endangered.
      Creationism is "well-developed in the English-
      speaking countries, especially the United
      States and Australia," the report states.
      "While most curricula in Europe today
      unashamedly teach evolution as a recognised
      scientific theory, the same does not apply to
      the United States. In July 2005, the Pew
      Research Center conducted a poll that showed
      that 64% of Americans favoured the teaching of
      intelligent design alongside the theory of
      evolution and that 38% would support the total
      abandonment of the teaching of evolution in
      publicly owned schools. The American President
      George W. Bush supports the principle of
      teaching both intelligent design and the theory
      of evolution. At the moment, 20 of the 50
      American states are facing potential
      adjustments of their school curricula in favour
      of intelligent design. Many people think that
      this phenomenon only affects the United States
      and that, even if it is not possible to be
      indifferent to what is happening on the other
      side of the Atlantic, it is not the Council of
      Europe's role to deal with this issue. That,
      however, is not the case. On the contrary, it
      would seem crucial for us to take the
      appropriate precautions in our 47 member

      Robert writes:

      But at least this proposal have been "put on
      the back burner", for now;

      >>Update A quote from Reuters, 25 June 2007:
      Europe's main human rights body on Monday
      cancelled a scheduled vote on banning
      creationist and intelligent design views from
      school science classes, saying the proposed
      resolution was one-sided. . . . Guy Lengagne,
      the French Socialist member of the Assembly who
      drew up the report, protested after the
      Parliamentary Assembly voted to call off the
      debate and vote, and [approved a proposal of
      the Flemish Christian-Democrat Luc Van den
      Brande] to send the report back to committee
      for further study. . . . Deputies said the
      motion by the Christian Democratic group of
      parliamentarians also won support from east
      European deputies, who recalled that Darwinian
      evolution was a favorite theory of their former
      communist rulers.<<

      Robert comments:

      And at least those who have lived under outright
      Communism can see where all this is headed.
      Perhaps an unintended consequence of EU push
      into the Slavic areas is that those survivors
      of Bolshevism will act as a restraint on the
      Western atheistic-materialist mind-control

      And, while those of us living in the USA might
      allow ourselves a sad, weary smile at the
      apparent credence that the CoE gives to the
      American President's alleged support of the
      dreaded "creationism", perhaps that horrified
      fear of this particular kind of Americanism
      still might point out a real difference between
      Europe and the USA. Just considering the facts
      that a major US politician at least gives "lip
      service" to a resistance to rampant Darwinism
      and that those polls show such a resistance
      among the American population, these facts seem
      to show something that might seem paradoxical
      to Anthros who are familiar with the idea that
      cultural materialism in the world comes
      primarily from America. It might well be that,
      despite the many years of pervasive,
      materialistic-Darwinistic "education", there
      still remains among the American people a deep,
      widespread, instinctive hold on at least some
      elements of a spiritual worldview. To this
      American observer, such instincts do not seem
      to be as pervasive and widespread among the
      European population, at least not in Western
      and Central Europe. (Perhaps some Europeans
      here might wish to comment on this observation?)

      I get the feeling, or at least the hope, that,
      given this instinctive American spirituality
      and the strong American tradition of "freedom
      of speech", such legal atrocities as that
      committed against Pastor Lerle are still not
      possible here in the USA. And likewise, I get
      the feeling that moves to censor Anthroposophy,
      or to imprison outspoken Anthros for promoting
      "racism" or whatnot, are not as great a danger
      in the US as they are in Germany and much of
      Europe. Not yet, anyway.

      I realize that there are powerful forces
      working to make such dangers real in the US,
      still it seems to me that the main attacks
      against spirituality and freedom in the US come
      not so much in the form of legal prohibitions
      but rather in the form of making people
      inwardly incapable of spiritual freedom. This
      American oppression comes from the combined
      might of economic and cultural perversions,
      mainly through "public education" but also
      through the financial "rat race", movies,
      "music", television, forced drugging, forced
      vaccinations, poisoned food, poisoned water,
      electromagnetic poisoning, etc., etc. (Such
      exposés as that brought by Christine from
      Charlotte Iserbyt are enlightening in this

      I'm not saying that direct, legal attacks
      against freedom in the USA are not "in the
      works"; surely they are. But it seems that
      there is yet enough resistance, or potential
      resistance, in the American people so that the
      Powers That Be are not quite ready to make that
      final move. Not only the instinctive American
      spirituality and respect for personal freedom
      act as restraints on those Powers, but so also
      does the brute fact that the American people
      are armed, as well as the paradoxical fact
      that, to some extent, technology seems to be
      backfiring on the Ahrimanic powers: for
      instance, the "9-11 truth movement" could
      hardly have reached its present strength
      without the Internet. So many people are
      "waking up" that this movement could become a
      *real* problem for the Powers That Be in the US
      -- perhaps.

      But maybe I'm indulging in wishful thinking?
      Still, I do have the feeling that European
      Anthros should be more worried about being sent
      to the Gulags than should American Anthros, at
      least for now. I'd be interested to get and
      compare comments from European and American
      Anthroposophists on this question.

      Robert Mason

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      ... I m sorry you feel that way.-Val
      Message 68 of 68 , Aug 23, 2007
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        --- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, Robert Mason
        <robertsmason_99@...> wrote:

        > I don't object to the mere fact that my view is
        > being challenged; I was inviting a discussion.
        > But so far you haven't shown me anything that
        > convinces me that your "challenge" is well-
        > founded in this case. And now it seems to me
        > that our discussion has reached an impasse, a
        > dead end; you're not saying anything really
        > new. So I don't see any point in my
        > continuing.

        I'm sorry you feel that way.-Val
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