Christianity and anthroposophy-Re: [anthroposophy] Re: Chart of Jesus
- I should perhaps for completeness add that
I suspect the division between exoteric/esoteric
is dependant on soul experience ("age"), and that
those who are exoteric in one lifetime might
become esoteric in a future one. Although I suspect
that notion would not be any more appealing
(despite it being part of Steiner's teachings).
If you want to debate it however, emotional
judgments are not the way.
> > So, is one dogma cured by asserting another? What you say sounds
> me asstimulated"
> > dogmatic as anything I've heard from these "emotionally
> ones you
> > referred to in your earlier post.
> The same phenomenon can also be seen in Hinduism, the Puranas which
> Hinduism builds on were written at a later stage than the Vedas. In
> the latter gods are hardly mentioned, while the former seems to be
> for the masses who need something to worship.
- Dear CJ,
To whom are you writing the following? To me on the "christianity and
>I should perhaps for completeness add thatFrankly, CJ, I have no interest whatsoever in debating or even in discussing
>I suspect the division between exoteric/esoteric
>is dependant on soul experience ("age"), and that
>those who are exoteric in one lifetime might
>become esoteric in a future one. Although I suspect
>that notion would not be any more appealing
>(despite it being part of Steiner's teachings).
>If you want to debate it however, emotional
>judgments are not the way.
anything with you, for the way I sense your tone leads me to find no opening
to relate to you here. And if you consider that a judgement, so be it. But I
simply speak of my experience in the best light I can.
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- You have standards for people regarding who is "good",
"better", "bad" based on Christian values. I have from
the start not been talking about this, but about consciousness
In eastern esotericism, as the soul incarnates through
the Earth it becomes more in control with each experience.
How does it experience? Pain and suffering are strong
experiences. Why does it suffer? Because it has "sinned"
(acted against the laws of karma) in the past. So increased
control (and with it awareness, since it can more easily
make a stand against the lower nature) in certain ways
seems to run opposite to the Christian concept of
"goodness". (Of course the incarnating soul is forced
to repent through karma in subsequent lives.)
Steiner calls the above process "aging". On a related note,
he says that the soul can gain skills in one life
which are transferred to subsequent lives and builds
on previous skills.
To me this seems explain the phenomenon of difference in
awareness, at least to some degree. If everyone was born
equally aware, there would be no room for someone like
Steiner for instance. I am myself ready to accept the
concept that there are people who are more aware spiritually
than I am, and also some who are less. Regarding "betterness",
Steiner says that the only criterion for that should be one's
> Frankly, CJ, I have no interest whatsoever in debating or even in
> anything with you, for the way I sense your tone leads me to findno opening
> to relate to you here. And if you consider that a judgement, so beit. But I
> simply speak of my experience in the best light I can.______________________________________________________________________
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