"There's a little play on the Angelic level to steer souls through
Ahraman's as well as Lucifer's initial, perceptual deception.The
`spiritual' experience depicted in the film falls under this category
of spiritual intervention."
Sorry, I can't seem to bring myself to delve into the question too
deeply but if I really wanted to, I'd experience within my soul a
large stop sign which immediately communicates that this `experience'
which the Secret wishes to cultivate is principally generated using
Luciferic spiritual forces (possibly under some guidance of Angelic
, "carol" <organicethics@...> wrote:
> There's a little play on the Angelic level to steer souls through
> Ahraman's as well as Lucifer's initial, perceptual deception.
> The `spiritual' experience depicted in the film falls under
> of spiritual intervention.
> But to actually deal with Ahraman's current `generalized
> occupation', this has to be done using the spiritual organs of
> perception in addition with courage and soul consciousness. How to
> get oneself set up for this, Steiner took great pains to
> meticulously describe. (Of course, he couldn't have possibly
> described every single detail, it would have taken an eternity.
> The tough stuff takes a soul with a spiritualized etheric and
> body, along with a spiritualized ego. This reworking offers the
> soul, to a certain degree, a sure enough resilience and `steering
> ability' against, in and around Ahraman's deceptive craft, thus
> allowing authentic but only gradual conscious `work' with the
> To actually do the deep work which Steiner and a few others have
> managed, this involves, in addition to the reworking of the finer
> bodies, actual and ongoing spiritual intervention within the
> individual's etheric body.
> This is my try at a 'general' picture.
> In firstname.lastname@example.org, "tlalocan_pl" <blueday@> wrote:
> > It's typically anthroposophical answer. Talking about evolution,
> > spriritual tasks... I know all that, because I read a lot of
> > I would prefer to know how to explain from esoteric point of view
> > it works.
> > Talking about Higher Self. If our visualisation is a message, It
> > He or She -I mean the Higher Self) makes a decision whether to
> > or not. In this case we don't need to worry about wherther it is
> > or wrong. Ask and you will be given is written in The Bible.
> > But if it is not a message to Hihger Self but just a low, which
> > without judging what is good or what is wrong for us we ingerate
> > our karma. Anyway we do it all the time. I think that there is
> > wrong to want to live a better live.
> > Somebody knows how it works or no?