Re: [anthroposophy] Astrology
> From this time of knowledge of the Invisible Cosmos came the early astrological traditions
> their very regular structural characteristics (l2 signs of 30 degrees each, etc etc.). Ashumanity
> became more and more "emancipated", and freedom more essential (to some degree), the visiblecosmos
> coalesced into the structured starfield we know today. As it (the visible cosmos) emerged intoThis is an antropocentric view in my opinion. According to theosophy the constellations
> visibility, it "broke away" from the Invisible Cosmos in a certain kind of sense. This process of
> "solidification" into "appearences" meant the taking on of form of what was essentially formless
> (although regular and balanced and harmonious).
are the "bodies" of certain beings, Steiner only uses the term "force". So their existence
would be independent of the perceiver.
Theosophy claims that for a time there was eight signs as humans were not receptive
to the others, then ten (minus Aquarius & Pisces) until humans became receptive to
today's zodiac. Theosophy also claims that the signs Virgo and Cancer were effective
already at what Steiner's calls "Old Saturn" (when present-day humanity was mineral,
according to theosophy this was in another solar system, followed by a "Pralaya" or
In my view it's possible that a mistake was made by the Babylonian astronomers (who
presumably no longer posessed direct intiution) regarding equal divisions, and Cyril
Fagan picked up on this mistake. Regarding the vedic zodiac, Vedic astrology as
we now it today was resurrected in 19th century (following India's dark age under
Although the oldest known vedic work (written in sanskrit) also uses an
equal zodiac, there is some justification for believing that some of Vedic astrology
has been borrowed from Greek tradition, which maybe indicates that it's
not as old as commonly thought (but most of it does not correspond to Greek
tradition in any way to my knowledge). (If you ask a Hindu, he will of course
vehemently claim that it's all preceding the Kali Yuga, or the worldwide "dark
age" we have been in since about 3000 B.C.) In turn I believe some things
like the Moon's nodes have been imported into western astrology from India.
Regarding your comments about direct observations, there would of course
be no need for astrology at all if everyone could perceive things like Dr. Steiner.
He mentions that while the night sky may appear regular and symmetric to the
physical eye, when it's viewed spiritually that's far from the case. He also says
the physical planets are the remains of actions which have occured a long time
ago, so it's not the physical things in the sky which have any astrological
effect (but instead the spiritual hierarchies associated with them). Certainly if
you meditate on what is visible long enough perhaps your awareness would
increase, but that applies equally to anything else (not just stars).