Re: The mystery of evil part 3
- Lee, I can offer some input.
Re Lucifer: I would say that where you able to transform
Lucifer's influence into the Holy Ghost, within yourself, through a
broadened and deepened understanding of the Christ event, then not
only would this benefit you and those with whom you associate here on
earth, but you also would become more ready for your `life' in the
heavens. At some point, Christ appears beside Lucifer, I imagine,
exclusively for all individuals who did this serious work during
their earthly lives. (note: acquiring a thorough appreciation of the
Christ event may take a while because of the many fine `spiritual'
details needed to be assimulated and changes which may ensue within
"Something of untold moment! When a man knows Christ, when he absorbs
the wisdom which begets insight into what Christ truly is, then he
redeems himself and the Luciferic Beings through this knowledge of
Christ. Were man merely to say: I am content with the fact that
Christ appeared and to allow myself to be redeemed by Him
unconsciously then he would contribute nothing to the redemption of
the Luciferic Beings. These Luciferic Beings who have brought man
freedom, also make it possible for him, if he so wills, to turn it to
account in order to understand Christ. Then the Luciferic Spirits are
cleansed and purified in the fire of Christianity and the wrong done
to the earth by them is changed into blessing. Freedom has been
attained; but it will also be carried into the spiritual sphere as a
blessing." R. S.
Re. "Why has so much shock and suffering been built into this
scheme." I guess one way to put it is that there are tremendously
intricate Spirituals influences being thrown around all over the
place; all that is manifest is held together by manifold tasks done
by Hierarchical Beings, they themselves are evolving through their
work on earth and the heavens, we are evolving, the heavens are
evolving, and not to forget the `independent' beings' opposition and
massive scheme which eventually is turned into good by other's wisdom
and work ...It starts from the massive Universe and all culminates in
a fine point(the manifest)...
Re: "Why has it not taken hold or at least found expression in other
forms or groups (Michael oriented)." Lee, if you're looking for
language and rhetoric which matches Steiner, you may be
disappointed. But if you look to the moral steadfastness which some
individuals manifest, sometimes as leaders, and watch them develop
through time as they bring along others, then you will KNOW that
they are in the least, intuitively expressing much of what Steiner
describes behind phenomena of reincarnation and karma.
Because of a world situation involving the 911 event, preemptive war
mongering, (pending?) UK and American tyrannical governments, energy
space weapons to name a few, a great many souls have found
themselves creatively IMPLORING the heavens for help, since the
earth is looking and feeling uglier as time progresses.
I'm personally expecting to see ACTUAL numbers of souls taking
the `leap' into Spiritual Science in the next little while. I find
the pressure's real high!
In email@example.com, "Lee A." <jlaoak@...> wrote:
>cosmological process but
> I sense what you are driving at here and understand the
> there are a host of other questions that arise, as usual. Whatexactly is "Consecration" in the the sense
> you use it? Were these Beings "set up" before the creation of theSolar System by the Solar Creator or did they "freely"
> choose to follow a path of opposition and false light.now as the Holy Ghost or
> Sometimes RS mentioned the redemption of Lucifer and his position
> Spirit but if this is so, how can his influence still be consideredharmful and influential as it continues to be among humanity? Which
influence is which??
>The transition of major cycles seems fraught with horrible earthly
> Why has so much shock and suffering been built into this scheme.
changes and resulting suffeing, pain and massive death; and we are
apparently looking at this yet again in the next 1000-3000 years
(with the Advent and aftermath and problems leading to it). Who is
running things? Obviously this is a rhetorical question but something
mystifying in its own right.
>of redemption of the earth, why has it not taken hold or at least
> The broader question is again: if Spiritual Science is to be path
found expression in other forms or groups (Michael oriented). If such
important matters are at hand, why can't the Hierarchies find the
individuals and groups to bring this about?
> Cheap talk?
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