- Mark Willan wrote:
Interesting though this debate is, it lacks a practical side for me.
It is all very well to outline how the Christ grew His miracles
trhough the incarnation - but of no actual use to us who NEED them now.
Another interesting viewpoint is to contemplate figures such as Maitre
Philippe of Lyons..."
Thanks Mark, I assume you are French Speaking, so thank-you very much
for responding. Concerning the theory and practice of understanding
the technical terminology of the science of the Resurrection, terms
used by Maitre Philippe, Omraam Mikhael, Steiner and any human being
who, unlike Joan of Arc, didn't have to have a complex intelligence,
but rather brought with her, from a previous incarnation with St.
Paul, the ability to tune into the Archangel Michael, at the time when
the Archangel Michael had preserved the French language. Terms such as
astral body, mental body, etheric body, sentient soul, intellectual
soul, are clearly used to understand and build the Science of the Soul
and Spirit we need to grow ourselves with.
Now the Archangel Michael, through His sacrifice, giving humans the
access to Cosmic Intelligence, is the Archai or ZeitGeist, known as
the Time Spirit for the next some 270 more years. We have to get used
to hearing facts instead of avoiding their implication. Michael, an
Archai in status, and a vast Spirit of Personality currently, that
Joan of Arc didn't have to have knowledge of, but heard and responded
to directly, is active NOW. Was it a miracle or a previously earned
spiritual credit for having stood by the gods, when St. Paul and
Dionysos Areopagus put together the mighty scaffolding and systems
structure of the Hierarchies, which is used today for Steiner's
Foundation Stone meditation? In other words, Joan of Arc carried
something specific in her peasant etheric and astral configuration
that she had brought with her.
"Areopagus Hill is also the place where Apostole Paul came to proclaim
the Christianity with his famous "sermon on an Unknown God"in 51 A.D.
Among his converts, he won Dionysos who became the Patron Saint of the
"Another conclusion: Reaffirming my ideas on the doctrine of
Reincarnation professed by Master PHILIPPE. PAPUS wrote a book on this
subject, which has even been translated into English. Edgar CAYCE, a
very religious person (who read the Bible once each year) was very
sceptical about this theory, but had to accept it when in the last
years of his life several answers from the Akashic records revealed to
him that the origin of some of our illnesses was to be found in prior
You worry over practical applications involved with how WE grow our
inner beings? How we learn to see other human beings in the process
and stages of growing their inner beings? Understanding that there IS
a map and categories of development that are clearly understood, is an
opportunity. It is tiring for those souls in our modern age to wish to
darken their intelligence and prefer to simply be ignorant, instead of
awakening the type of KNOWING DOER that allowed Zarathustra/Jesus and
Steiner to investigate Zarathustra, who brought CONSCIOUSLY the events
of Golgothat and the gift of Spirit Man to humanity.
It is an opportunity everyone has to approach the intelligent
unfolding of their inner development with accurate cognition. The
heart may remain pure no matter what, but clinging to Peasant virtue
as an aspect of heart is to be both Shepherd and King. Both aspects
are required, offered and demanded. To fall back on the assumption
that Jesus was not the most complex and deepened of Initiates, and was
rather just a simple peasant who got lucky with god, is stupidity.
Reincarnation is already a complex star reality, a destiny and star
reality that Zarathustra/Jesus was very well versed in because it is
in fact Zarathustra/Jesus who was planning the time and place, the
ethnic foundations and forces that He would need to reel in the Christ
Being and bring to humanity the deed of Spirit Man. Zarathustra spent
man incarnations in Chaldean star wisdom, until the projection of the
stars and the karma of humanity were clear to him and he understood
the dynamics of Angelic theory.
The Youth of Nain was a complex riddle that was left in a human soul
from the Egyptian Mysteries and appeared in a brief moment,
termed "Son of the Widow" before Christ/Jesus. But due to the
intensified Spirit-Self with higher star wisdom, and the ego or I AM
tracking that the Christ Being, author of I AM's... I AM's that from
the Old Moon evolution of the Angels to Earth evolution, where
humanity arose to an upright ability, had a physical, etheric,
advanced star coded nervous system and astral body, and could finally
bare an I AM... Christ easily tracked, in a brief second, that "The
Youth of Nain" had had an initiation blockage that Christ could
resolve. The riddle of "The Son of the Widow" followed Manes into his
incarnation and became the term that depicted the Initiation progress
of soul known as Parsifal.
"Therefore my decision to place here, in the spiritual part, only
everything that happened around Master PHILIPPE of Lyons and his
companions, PAPUS, Marc HAVEN, SÉDIR, PHANEG, etc. Could it be that
PAPUS was specially 'chosen' to create the Martinist Order? And to
what end? What was the real reason behind the founding of the
Let's recall a very important text of PAPUS ("The Incarnation of the
Elect") that has already been published in issue No. 6 of this
Bulletin, but which we shall republish on the following pages. Here is
the passage which is most important here:
" And I was not allowed to write the mystery of this incarnation when
eleven elect passed by the sun to accompany him who came deliberately
back on Earth, and the eleven arrived at the sun five years after half
ELEVEN elect arrived at the sun, and incarnated themselves in 1855!
Who were they? Eleven out of the twelve Apostles? "
With Steiner and Gemany we knew from Spiritual Science that Plato was
there but could not bring forth initiate clarity. We knew from
Spiritual Science that Merlin aka. Richard Wagner had sealed within
his higher astral body, the Arthurian and Grail karma he carried from
his incarnation as Merlin, and unlocked these forces through Richard
Wagner's relation to music. Music helped thaw and unlock the
contribution to the Consciousness Soul that Wagner was bringing. But
the earthly intellect of Wagner was dragged into extreme ethnic
problems. The School of Athens and some of the individuals from that
era including Goethe were there... But Steiner made TWELVE chairs,
TWELVE seats on the lecture stage of the 1st Goetheanum and these
CHAIRS, as in department heads, were cosmic standpoints, bodhisattvas
and great initiates, who could join Steiner in their 'Body of Glory'
as Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov brought in the previous post.
Initiates and the technical problems and developments in human etheric
bodies, human astral bodies and the complex karma of I AM's themselves
requires that the student learn what it means that Higher Beings were
invited guests at Steiner's lectures and inspired his talks. That the
current POP culture of Star Wars- that uses twelve chairs as their
Jedi council and that Christ reappeared after Golgotha in a human
form, approximately TWELVE different times. Wagner's Operas were
twelve in number, and Christ pin-pointed or locked into Name and
painters painted TWELVE apostles...even though Paul is the exception.
When the Christ Sun Being entered the matrix of the TWELVE Cranial
forces adapted by Zarathustra... Christ needed a stream of Twelve
different personality and anchor points to move with Him, as an
extended force of nature and Star reality living in the environment.
As an extended force of the I AM, the Cosmic I AM on Earth. These are
Consciousness Soul insights we need to have in our mind's eye.
Bio-dynamic sciences, as star wisdom and star practice is intensely
practical, so also are Waldorf insights when the daily behavior of the
classroom shifts as the starry influences, moon and sun influences
shift and trigger various different behaviors. Understanding the
impact of history, such as when the Iraq was was pressed into reality,
Mars was extremely close to the earth and the powers that knew this
used this point to enflame war. Think Tanks in the U.S. won't tell you
but they understand the use of Star points and star dynamics to sway
the world opinion against the goals of what is rightfully moral and
human. Star field enhancements and stem cell research also reveal
intrusions into what humanity must gain as comprehension of activities
that are certainly happening all around us.
So I will not accept your excuse that the study of the higher
factoring of the details of the many miracles achieved and accelerated
due to the Christ intensification of Spirit-Self, Life-Spirit and
Spirit-Man...and the building of what Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov calls
the "Body of Glory"...these are not accidental events. It is far more
practical to understand clearly what are astral effects, etheric
effects and understand clearly that when you look at a butterfly you
are looking directly at the miracle of the Accomplished Plant. The
Accomplished physical/etheric plant specie appears directly as a
butterfly. Such a change has been wrought, such a mighty stage leaped
and it is from these practical observations where the etheric was
conquered by the plant...that take us deeply into the mystery of the I
AM and the I AM of Christ that clearly could bring forth Spirit-Man
and the "Body of Glory".
Nor do I accept Stephen Hale's ungrounded and unrealistic and silly
statement that "...the very last miracle to take place on earth was
the one that occurred at Fatima, Portugal from May 13th to October 13,
1917. " Stephen Hale is prone to overstatment.
In point of fact there are thousands of miracles daily that go
unreported. They are all minor specific destiny solutions, solutions
from the etheric and memory scroll of the soul, that suddenly are seen
clearly, lit by Angelic reasoning of the heart, accidents that failed
to happen, because of a small delay in the timing of events, and for
all we know vast destructive forces have so far been prevented because
of the miracle that Ahrimanic beings can not use humanity, if humanity
is incinerated, they rather thrive on fear... Courage and acts of
human decency and depth span parents, teachers, Angels, humans and
animals inspired by Angelic intervention into instincts, have
prevented and guided events that are never ever recorded and if they
are, perhaps years later. Fresh events are everywhere, always because
we live surrounded by spiritual layers of Being.
It is most important to understand the mechanics and technical
realities that integrate physical/etheric/astral and I AM forces and
know them in detail and in earnest. When you begin to, you begin to
have before you exact and practical observations which appear to be
uncanny and precise. But avoiding such clarity is merely stubborn
- Steve, you misunderstood me, I was referring to extraordinary events involving the Etheric Christ within the larger picture; decisive movements in world events happening below the strata of ordinary consciousness. Of course the Etheric Christ is accessible to us all as individual souls and has relevance in our relations with others.
Its just that, as you know, a mighty spiritual being of profane nature has actually begun an earthly incarnation and has and will proceed to more intensely saturate our lives. Would you not also expect that, at some point, the extraordinary might emanating from the Etheric Christ, would come within our range of view, as well? Carol
>Steve, you misunderstood me; I was refering to
> From: "Steve Hale" <sardisian01@...>
> Date: 2006/09/30 Sat PM 11:09:35 EST
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: [anthroposophy] Re: Miracles/for the dull and stupid American
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "carol" <organicethics@...> wrote:
> > Also, the Etheric Christ acted when several `spiritually corrupt'
> > souls were summoned on the European continent, this year, and he
> > said, come unto me. And he said to (spiritual occult) onlookers,
> > Let the one without sin cast the first stone.
> > My advise to Mark William, if you are not summoned by an initiate,
> > then continue to work creatively out of the strength and goodness
> > that fills your soul, and do take some time to deepen your
> > experience of the cosmic Christ. That is the nobility that is
> > greatly needed to influence our Humanity's future the way we want it
> > to be. Carol.
> Actually, it would be better to say that the Etheric Christ is here for
> us all, just as the Physical Christ incarnated two thousand years ago
> to bring "the fish" out of water in order that we all now experience
> our individual ego consciousness in this life. The universality of
> Christianity is enormously evident, don't you think?