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Re: Requiem in memoriam/Yucatan

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  • Valerie Walsh
    ... starts ... the ... an earth ... extinction of ... http://www.yucatantoday.com/destinations/eng-cenotes.htm ... elaborated lore ... neck. My ... add ...
    Message 1 of 38 , Aug 30, 2006
      --- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, "holderlin66"
      <holderlin66@...> wrote:

      > Dear Val & Stephen and S.S. Minnow survivors
      > Val I have a whole context in a novel I have been writing that
      > in a submersible sub exploring caves along the coast where in
      > ancient Yucatan rip, the vast chunk that appears to have been
      an earth
      > impact point that made almost the entire Gulf of and lip of the
      > Yucatan the impact crater point that brought about the
      extinction of
      > dinoland and the dawn of the human model.


      > Anyways I would love to hear much more of the local,
      elaborated lore
      > that you gleaned from the hackles raised on the back of your
      neck. My
      > novel, which, as soon as I get my laptop back from repairs I will
      > a few of my own descriptions to the Yucatan penn. in relation to
      > subject, but from your POV, accounts of the wells, cliffs and
      > lore, from onsite or onsight and some added details from the
      nape of
      > your neck would greatly enhance my embellishments with my
      > research.

      Ya, I can do that. I even have pictures! Also went with another
      family who went to Dziblichaltun and had an entirely different
      (mystical) experience that I can relate.

      > The fictional book has to do with two different souls. One who
      > the back door to the lower nine of the Aztec...as kind of a serial
      > killer nine gates of the lower regions, or, the other, my own
      > who due to a motorcycle accident has developed Remote
      Viewing and
      > ability to work outside of his body as a clear cut observer. He
      > discovers the Lodge forces that spin models and political
      agendas in
      > both directions.... Funny you should be Val, in the very region
      > this novel has already sketched itself.

      Reminds me of my hero, Bob, (you know the guy who did the
      stint on the fishing boat) and a certain magician I know also
      coincidentally named Bob. And yeah, I thought it was funny to be
      there too. Funny, of all the places to vacation that my husband
      would come up with this, out of the blue. And funny to me that I
      would take my three probably overly protected children without a
      second thought.

      > There is a film, a bad film, now running called "Premonition"... I
      > just hate it when they steal my ideas...but of course as the story
      > goes, many of the survivors of the S.S. Minnow actually have
      > Work with ideas and can see into the neighboring world of
      thought and
      > thought connections, insights and aren't so apt to think Steiner
      > some conservative, trite, gamester who must pass the Albert
      > taste test.

      Well, I hate to break it to you but it seems to me that several
      movies have come out that have pre-empted your story-line.
      "About Schmidt" and the aptly named "R.V." come to mind. The
      story in both movies is a trip to a destination that is never actually
      seen-but rather left up to the viewer's imagination.-Val

      > Text Notes on this thread;
      > "... that we know that Zarathustra was
      > able to gift and emancipate to his pupils the 'model' and copy
      > his etheric body and the model and copy of his astral body.
      This is
      > how we also understand the models and copies of
      achievement that are
      > held in various Lodges.
      > Lodges that provide both for the greater advancement of
      humanity and
      > the forceful copies of those beings who have imprinted as well
      > retardation and receptive models for the regressive working of
      > opposing powers. The mirror and the copy works both ways
      and they
      > collide directly in our current 21st century Michael ZeitGeist
      > problems."
    • holderlin66
      Who were the college of Teachers for the Michael School? Who were invited into those twelve chairs that stood on the stage and shared the podium with the
      Message 38 of 38 , Sep 12, 2006
        Who were the college of Teachers for the Michael School? Who were
        invited into those twelve chairs that stood on the stage and shared
        the podium with the lectures of Dr. Steiner at the 1st Goetheanum?

        Bradford brought from 'Miracles'

        "...But Steiner made TWELVE chairs,
        TWELVE seats on the lecture stage of the 1st Goetheanum and these
        CHAIRS, as in department heads, were cosmic standpoints,
        bodhisattvas and great initiates, who could join Steiner in
        their 'Body of Glory'..." as Rudolf Steiner planted the
        Consciousness Soul into the Heart of humanity and planted Cosmic
        Intelligence into the Stream of human history and Planted the
        Science of the Resurrection as demanded by St. Paul."

        Rudolf Steiner brought:

        "These seven individualities were joined by four others; unlike the
        first seven, these other four were not able to look back to times of
        the primeval past; they looked back to what mankind had acquired
        from occult truths during the four epochs of post-Atlantean culture.
        The first of the four looked back to the period of ancient India,
        the second to that of ancient Persia, the third to that of Egyptian-
        Chaldean-Babylonian-Assyrian culture, and the fourth to that of the
        Graeco-Latin age. These four joined the seven in that "College" of
        wise men in the thirteenth century; the twelfth had fewer
        remembrances; he was more intrinsically intellectual than the rest
        and it was his task to cultivate and foster the external sciences.

        "These twelve individualities did not live only in the sphere of
        occultism as cultivated in the West, but could also
        be "incorporated" as it were in men who possessed some genuine
        knowledge of occultism. Goethe's poem Die Geheimnisse [footnote: The
        Mysteries by Rudolf Steiner] gives a certain indication of this. -

        "Thus there were twelve outstanding individualities and to them came
        a Thirteenth who, after the period of darkness had come to an end
        was to be chosen out for the kind of Initiation demanded by the
        culture of the West. The circumstances are very mysterious and I can
        only give you the following information in the form of a narrative.
        To me it is objective truth, but you yourselves can put it to the
        test by gathering together what has been said by anthroposophical
        Spiritual Science during the last few years, added to what you know
        of history since the thirteenth century.

        "It was known to the College of the twelve wise men that a child was
        to be born who had lived in Palestine at the time of Christ and had
        been present when the Mystery of Golgotha had taken place. This
        Individuality possessed great powers of heart and a quality of deep,
        inward love which circumstances had since helped to unfold in him."

        Bradford concludes;

        Steiner refers to these twelve streams that create the Initiation
        model that all of humanity can now safely have as a guide, as part
        of the Michael School, Steiner calls these Twelve streams, his
        College of Teachers. His college of wise men. These were the faculty
        and on staff tenured teachers of the Michael School. This is the
        model, when Waldorf faculties are supposed to understand that they
        carry the precious first impressions of each child and hold
        intercourse with the Angel that hovers over the child and the I AM's
        that are in the family of the child. The Waldorf Faculty should, but
        mostly have lost all knowledge of, the idea that the college of
        Teachers that they model themselves from are those that created the
        Initiation path for the THIRTEENTH in Steiner's recollection of the
        13th century event. The entire Michael School as a public and open
        reality is based on the solid foundations of the great logical
        streams of humanity that go back beyond Atlantis and have collected
        the wisdom of Persia, Egypt-Chaldea, Greece and modern science.

        This is the College of Teachers who supported Steiner as he brought
        down the vast insights, cohesion and thinking forces needed to
        create the basis for Michael Intelligence to stream into the hearts
        and minds of humanity. This is the model that allows the common
        stream of all of humanity to gather themselves around the fountain
        head of the Christ Impulse, who gave to humanity the outline and
        direction and actual forces needed to awaken the Spirit Man on Earth
        and bring to humanity their own unfolding of New Nature, new
        ecology, arising out of the bountiful foundations of the fountain of
        life, the Life-Spirit that is latent in the I AM of very living
        human being.
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