>From: Kevin Brinkofskialways in >conflict with each other.
>To: Soren Petersen
>How can you be Christian and Anarcho-Communist. These traditions are
I understand your reaction - an Oxymoron is bound to raise
questions... However to me the revelation of Christ is about the
establishment of an Anarcho-Communist reality...
That the word "Christian" indeed have become an characterization of
an institution with a history, a set of dogma and beliefs, which
proclaim another reality than a non-violent anarcho-communist human
existence is nothing I'll dispute - on the contrary. I choose to
reclaim the word "Christian"
Many so-called "Christians" would react as strongly to the apparent
contradiction with the term communist, as this indeed have become a
characterization of an institution with a history, a set of dogma and
beliefs, which proclaim another reality than a non-violent Christ-
like human existence.
Nothing I'll dispute either - on the contrary. I choose to reclaim
the word "Communist".
The basic similarity is "by each according to ability, to each
according to need" ---
>Don't you want to be equal with a man. This ain't happening undercristianity. >Patriarchy is the rule.
I'd like to see where you can find Jesus proclaiming any patriarchy
and establishment of an hierarchical order between human beings. Even
though the Bible is an edited version of the revelation (edited by
men who had a hard time grasping the revolutionary turning-the-world-
upside-down reality of Christ)I don't find it hard to find Jesus
proclaiming upheaval of the existing patriarchal and hierarchal order
in the "world". On the contrary.
Sometimes just in action - as when Jesus washes the feet of his
disciples. The Master as Servant.
At that time women were not to be taught by a rabbi - Jesus had
several women as disciples, and Mary Magdalene was probably the
closest (not Peter or John). Does he tell her that she belongs in the
kitchen - no on the contrary.
Take all the "beliefs" proclaimed in the name of "Christianity" and
check them against the simple proclaims that was given by Jesus -
then you have a true Oxymoron. I'll be the first to state, that the
more people talk about the Bible, the less they seem to have read it.
But all through history, you can find people that didn't get lost in
the "world" - here's a few Anabaptists:
Hans Denck: Concerning True Love (1527):
"Love is a spiritual power. The lover desires to be united with the
beloved. Where love is fulfilled, the lover does not objectify the
"It is the nature of love never to desire the worst for anyone.
Rather, love seeks to serve for improvement wherever that is
... "And if would be possible for a governor to do the same, he might
also be a Christian in that position. But because the world would not
tolerate this, a friend of God should not be a ruler. He should leave
that position if he wants Christ as Lord and Master."
Peter Waldpot: True Yieldedness and The Christian Community of Goods
"We may achieve nothing by the temporal. This is why Christ
said, "Where your treasure is, there is your heart also." For it is
surely true that were one places his treasure, there he also places
his soul." "They may say with their mouth that they are ardent, but
their heart follows after its own good and greed. For that is their
treasure> One sees this in many who serve and honor temporal, earthly
things. They would give up their faith before they would leave their
riches behind. They are really worse than the heathen, for they have
Christ in their mouth but their heart is set on the money purse. They
are idol worshippers of the worst sort"
I definately think it's possible to be an anarcho-communist withouth
being christian or non-violent, but hardly that it's possible to be a
chrisitan withouth being anarcho-communist and non-violent
Soren Groth Petersen