R: [anthroposophy] Re: Islam is a cancer
- Uhu,sorry,It's Mardi Gras and I have not realize it !Good Night Sleep TightA.----- Original Message -----
"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad chop off their hands." (Koran, Surah 47:4)
Only the brain-dead are incapable of seeing that Islam is the enemy of civilization....................and of the Christos as well.
Br. Ron----- Original Message -----From: VALENTINA BRUNETTISent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:54 AMSubject: I: [anthroposophy] Re: Islam is a cancer
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From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: minnie_.com>
> How often were we all warned repeatedly by Steiner of Islam
> > [although it seems he referred to it mostly as Mohammadism] rise to
> > enormous power "about the turn of the 20th and beginning of the 21st
> > centuries" with Ahriman's incarnation in the West?
> Hi list.
> This quote is quite twisted and incorrect. When, lecturing on the turn
> of the century Steiner talks about the Beast t and also Ahriman's
> incarnation (for instance into "The Book of Revelation and the Workk of
> Priest") , he does not mention any "Islam" at all.
> He talks about Islam's retrograde impulses between VI and XII cent mainly
> as a Father's religion unaware of Son's reality.
> This has very little to do with today's Islam ( the unawareness of
> Christ's impulse could have to be easily put as a "a pattern on the tight"
> to tens of religious,scientific,political,moral issues of today) and it
> only a matter concerning the case of people who want to hide their
> chauvinism under "Steiner's dixit" falsified statements in order to
> demonstrate that " Islam is Evil" and "Bush is Good".
> We have all
> > remained asleep except for a rare soul here and there, but
> > sleep/unconsciousness is exactly the time of Ahriman's greatest
> > advances. It is to no avail for one to state the words supposedly
> > cried out aloud by Christ Jesus upon the Cross, but as Steiner states,
> > those words were not "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken me" but
> > "My God, My God, how Thou has glorified me!" The ONLY solution to the
> > horrors of today and to those worse horrors to come, is through
> > Spirituality in the true sense of the Word! We gain nothing
> > rationalizing, discecting, evaluating or blaming, but we gain what
> > mankind has been given the opportunity to gain for not only himself,
> > but for the Spiritual Hierarchies and the world, via TRUE
> > Anthroposophy! Where is this TRUE Anthroposophy to be found? Not in
> > ranting, smearing another, bewailing one's fate, blame of others or
> > condemnation, but we find it within our very hearts IF we have allowed
> > it to grow there!
> > Blessed Resurrection,
> > Minnie_Hah
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Br. Ron" <rlloyd@d...> wrote:
> > >
> > > WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
> > >
> > > "All of us like sheep have gone astray."
> > >
> > >
> > > You have survived a perilous journey into a frightening realm.
> > You have explored the dark recesses of man's soul, examined our worst
> > nature, surveyed our most heinous behavior. You have probed hell and
> > have met demons, both real and imagined. On behalf of the billion
> > souls ensnared by Islam, and the millions who have been victimized by
> > it, thank you for caring enough to endure.
> > > So what are you going to do?
> > > I suppose the answer to that question depends upon who you
> > are-what you believe. Knowing that Islam is rotten to the core is
> > better than not knowing, but knowledge alone won't save lives or make
> > the world any better.
> > > If you'll bear with me a few more pages, I'd like to suggest a
> > course of action for folks who, like me, know Yahweh and have accepted
> > Yahshua's gift of eternal life; for agnostics and atheists, secular
> > humanists practicing the false religion of Political Correctness; for
> > bad Muslims; and then for good ones.
> > > But first a word for everyone: all religions are poisonous;
> > some are just more lethal than others. Islam is the worst of a bad
> > lot. Islam has no redeeming qualities. Those who submit are destined
> > to live and die in civil, economic, intellectual, and religious
> > poverty. Collectively, the Islamic nations rank as the least free,
> > least prosperous, and least enlightened places on earth. One fifth of
> > the world's population is responsible for over four fifths of the
> > world's armed conflicts. In life, Muslims are damned by a false
> > prophet. In death, a demonic spirit claims their soul. And they do not
> > suffer alone. Terror is the legacy of Islam.
> > > If you were looking for a summary of Muhammad's creation, a
> > way to shortcut 700 pages of study, you won't find it here. The
> > religion of a billion people isn't something to trifle with. A little
> > knowledge is always dangerous. A handful of quotes used out of context
> > will do more harm than good. If you want to study what Islam has to
> > say about Jihad, Muhammad's indiscretions, the history and nature of
> > Allah, or Satan's role in establishing the religion, an Index and a
> > Quotations appendix has been provided to assist you.
> > > Ultimately, It all comes down to this: the Hadith Collections
> > of Ishaq, Tabari, Bukhari, and Muslim contain all that is known about
> > Muhammad and his formation of Islam. If they are not accurate then
> > Islam ceases to exist as the Qur'an is jibberish without the context
> > and chronology they provide. No Muslim could follow the Qur'an's
> > command to emulate the prophet's example. Muslims would be unable to
> > emplement the Qur'an's incessent demands to follow the messenger's
> > orders, as they would be unknown. The substance behind all five
> > pillars vanish. But if the Hadith Collections of Ishaq, Tabari,
> > Bukhari, and Muslim are accurate then Islam is nothing more than a
> > sadistic fraud-a scam perpetrated by an immoral pirate, a terrorist,
> > and warlord. Either way, Islam's wrong.
> > > With that said, let's get down to business. I'd like to begin
> > with the practitioners of the liberal and atheistic poligious doctrine
> > of Political Correctness. You may be gloating. You have been taught to
> > believe that religions are opiates, duping people into fighting holy
> > wars. You think all fundamentalists are religious whackos, ever ready
> > to bludgeon nonbelievers into submission. You believe that your
> > tolerant, pacifist beliefs are more civil and enlightened. But don't
> > smile too quickly. The last century occurred under your watch, under
> > your tutelage; and it was the bloodiest in human history. In it,
> > atheists decimated more people in the name of their poligious
> > doctrines than those who served false gods. Good Communists practiced
> > genocide, murdering all they couldn't seduce or coerce. Lenin's
> > revolution left a sea of corpses in its wake. Stalin killed 20 million
> > Russians. Mao killed or starved 40 million in China. Pol Pot
> > obliterated a quarter of his country. Atheists have murdered Americans
> > by the tens of thousands in Korea and Vietnam.
> > > In practice, there is no difference between worshiping no god
> > and serving a false one. The Communist Manifesto enshrines man while
> > Mein Kampf and the Qur'an put Satan on a pedestal. From their throne
> > they deceive, beguiling the masses to perpetrate murder and mayhem.
> > Draconian dictatorships are imposed. All people are indoctrinated,
> > starting in grade school. All freedoms are obliterated. Only poverty
> > survives. The mantra is always submit and obey. A thin veneer of order
> > is maintained through fear.
> > > Throughout time man has demonstrated an aptitude for behaviors
> > both heavenly and hellish. Liberals, preaching the dogma of Political
> > Correctness, seem to believe that man can be conditioned to behave
> > more angelically. But that is not what the empirical evidence
> > suggests. Man indoctrinated and separated from God becomes a more
> > demonic creature. The central-control, universal-conditioning
> > experiment has been run in Nazi, Communist, and Islamic nations,
> > always with the same result. All things we hold dear are eliminated:
> > prosperity, liberty, justice, opportunity, and peace. Yet such nations
> > always seem to develop the perfect culture in which to breed killers.
> > And that isn't easy. To corrupt men to the point that they believe
> > it's good to murder innocent people takes a total commitment. Schools,
> > mosques, party councils, courtrooms, meeting halls, and media outlets
> > must work in harmony with a singular state religotic to deceive the
> > masses on this massive scale.
> > > The common denominator that makes this possible, and that
> > makes false and atheistic poligious doctrines indistinguishable, is a
> > liberal use of government. Individual liberty-choice-must be
> > obliterated. Freedom is sacrificed on the altar of control. Power is
> > concentrated and then abused by godless men. The masses are
> > discounted, emasculated, indoctrinated, and conditioned to serve the
> > few. The victors call themselves cleric and king, comrade and
> > secretary general.
> > > Ultimately, good men are made bad. Deceived, they plunder and
> > kill. They mutilate and terrorize; they rob, enslave, and destroy. And
> > they continue to do these things until someone who hasn't been
> > victimized, who still knows freedom, cares enough to expose them. But
> > that's a problem. Not enough people care. Thanks in large part to the
> > false poligious doctrine of Political Correctness, most don't even
> > know what the problem is, much less how to fix it.
> > > Worst of all, those in a position to make a difference are the
> > most deceived. Media darlings and political actors are the most
> > self-centered people on the planet. They crave attention, revel in
> > power, and will do and say most anything if it makes them more
> > popular. Together they are the practitioners of Political Correctness.
> > Dispensing a jaundiced view of the world, they prohibit free
> > expression and thus rational thought.
> > > Step so much as an inch outside the constraints of the PC
> > agenda, and you're yesterday's news. Your character is mutilated.
> > You'll be raped, spit upon, and then discarded, after having been
> > kicked and shamed by those who preach tolerance. I know. I've been
> > there. I spoke out against the culture that was destroying corporate
> > America and found myself on the cover of Business Week being torn
> > apart limb from limb. Nothing the media said over the course of their
> > pictorial spread was true, but it didn't matter. The damage was done.
> > The point was made. Step outside the circle and you're burnt alive.
> > > It's just like Islam's carrot and stick. No matter how wrong,
> > submission and obedience are rewarded with booty and babes. But if a
> > Muslim steps outside the circle they're ostracized, often murdered,
> > and then they're sent to hell to roast on Allah's spit.
> > > The carrot and stick is why I believe there isn't a single
> > media spokes-person from any major network or national syndicate
> > willing to expose the least beneficial, most deceitful, and vicious
> > poligious doctrine ever conceived. It might be a career-ending move.
> > To a person, the media darlings crave the adulation, power, and money
> > their microphones and cameras provide. Such things are prioritized
> > over truth, over life itself. And their co-conspirators, the political
> > actors who depend upon the media, are no different. Insecurity drives
> > them into the public arena. They do it for themselves, for the perks
> > of power. They will tell any lie or embrace any falsehood if it serves
> > their interests.
> > > But hopefully, somewhere, there is someone with a microphone
> > or a bully pulpit who is willing to step outside the line and reveal
> > Islam's sinister and violent nature. Hope burns eternal. If only ten
> > percent of those who hold the levers of public opinion demonstrate the
> > compassion and courage needed to tell the truth, we could change the
> > world.
> > > But alas, that kind of sacrificial love, that sense of purpose
> > and mission comes from but one place-God. While I am not your judge,
> > polls taken of those in the national media show that ninety percent
> > classify themselves as politically liberal and religiously agnostic.
> > Knowing that politicians have a propensity to lie, the pollsters
> > didn't even bother taking their pulse. Yet as agnostics, you should be
> > haunted, even bewildered. How is it that Yahweh predicted the mess we
> > are in, and the remedy, if he were not God?
> > > Fortunately, you can find God and truth in the same place: the
> > Bible. Unfortunately, most of you don't have an interest in looking.
> > So to kindle a spirit of curiosity, I encourage political actors in
> > the gilded arena of egos, and media darlings in the make-believe world
> > of artificial lights and cameras, to read In the Company of Good and
> > Evil and Tea With Terrorists. (If you're in politics or the media,
> > send me an email at www.TeaWithTerrorists.com and I'll give them to
> > you.) In the first book you'll come to appreciate the nature of
> > insecurity in a contemporary setting, and you'll witness the media
> > dispense its poison from a different perspective. In the second,
> > you'll confront errant reporting again, and then face the deceitful
> > nature of politics from the vantage point of one outside the arena.
> > You'll discover the true nature of modern-day Islam and its link to
> > terror in a geopolitical and historic perspective. And in Tea With
> > Terrorists, you'll meet the Messiah, truth incarnate, up close and
> > personal. You'll discover just how liberating stepping outside the
> > circle can be, especially if you're in the right company. As one who
> > has done so and survived, I assure you, the sense of purpose and
> > satisfaction that comes as a result, is more rewarding than winning a
> > ratings sweep or an election.
> > > While some may venture outside the confines of Political
> > Correctness, most will not. America will indoctrinate another
> > generation of godless, and thus amoral, thoughtless, and directionless
> > people, as has Europe before us. Our culture and economy will suffer.
> > We will be terrorized. And then, like 1930's Germany, we will long for
> > a dictator who will pull us out of the morass-only to find that he
> > will push us into the abyss. After announcing that we have achieved
> > peace in our time, the world will erupt in global war. And all because
> > media darlings and political actors were afraid to step outside the
> > circle. But I have done my part. I have left you without excuse.
> > > Moving on, I'd like to speak to Christians-actually I'd like
> > to wake you up. Speaking of this generation of believers, Yahweh said,
> > "You are neither hot nor cold so I spew you out of my mouth." We've
> > lost our passion, our courage, our faith. Most Christians don't know
> > God's name, much less what He is like or what He wants. And that is
> > why I believe the world is in such a mess. We're in a position to make
> > a difference, but we've been sleeping on the job.
> > > History tell us that bad overwhelms good until good cares.
> > Islam will continue to poison its faithful and deceive its foes until
> > the planet is embroiled in World War. That is what it was born to do.
> > And while we could stop it, we won't. All of us could make the right
> > choice; we could discard that which is false and rely on that which is
> > true. But not enough of us are going to make the right call to make a
> > difference.
> > > So why bother? Why did I write, and why did you read, Prophet
> > of Doom? Because while we collectively will continue to embrace the
> > lie, deny the truth, and march like lemmings toward our doom, all will
> > not jump into the pit. There is salvation, a bridge to paradise, but
> > it's single file. As Christians, it's our job to point as many people
> > as possible in the right direction. And often that means showing them
> > that the direction they are currently going is wrong.
> > > If you have chosen Yahweh, if you know Yahshua personally, you
> > have been given your marching orders. The Third Commandments
> > proclaims: "You shall not nasa (advance or accept) the shem (character
> > or mark) of Yahweh (I Am-the Creator's name) your elohiym (deity) in
> > shav (an evil, destructive, deceptive, or false manner), for Yahweh
> > will not hold him naqah (clean, innocent, or blameless) who nasa
> > (advances or accepts) His shem (character or mark) shav (evilly,
> > destructively, deceptively, or falsely)." You have been instructed to
> > confront Islam, to save Muslims and non-Muslims from it.
> > > Now, before I share the location of the bridge to eternity and
> > the rules regarding its passage with bad Muslims, the peaceful and
> > loving ones, I'd like to review the nature of this strange place Islam
> > has taken us. God has been reshaped to look like the Devil. Allah
> > leads men astray; he seals hearts, blinds eyes, and plots against
> > human kind. He is depicted interrogating and torturing the inhabitants
> > of hell, a place created for his entertainment. Humans are turned on a
> > spit and given fresh skin each time one burns off so that the torment
> > might be eternal. Allah pours boiling water down our throats, makes us
> > eat pitch and thorns. And this painful punishment isn't for the few
> > but for the many. Only one in a thousand avoids being tortured. Yet
> > even they go to a place of decadence-a four-star brothel with the best
> > foods, free-flowing wine, and virginal attendants. Allah loves
> > warriors; he craves death and destruction. He brags about his
> > participation in terror, mass murder, the enslavement of women and
> > children, and thievery. Allah claims booty is lawful and good. Unable
> > to give Muslims a reason to live, Allah gave them a reason to die.
> > > And as evil as the Islamic "god" is, his prophet was worse.
> > His resume reads: demon possession, suicidal, bearing false witness,
> > hate speech, taking and offering bribes, pedophilia, terrorism,
> > piracy, slave trading, incest, rape, torture, genocide, warmongering,
> > plagiarism, womanizing, sexism-well, you know the list. Muhammad was
> > hardly a model citizen. Fact is, he and his god had a lot in
> > common-too much in common.
> > > But worst of all, Allah and Muhammad prohibit choice. They not
> > only named their doctrine submission, they chose it for mankind, not
> > the other way around. Allah determined who would burn in lust or roast
> > in hell based upon a backrub, predestining all men and women to their
> > fate. The theme of the Qur'an's last score of surahs is simply: submit
> > and obey, perform and pay, fight and slay. It's no wonder Islam has
> > bred hell on earth. Muslims are unable to rise above the depraved
> > character of their prophet and god. And those who do are killed.
> > > For Muslims who believe paradise lies under the shade of
> > swords, for those trying to emulate the life of Muhammad the Terrible,
> > there is no longer hope. Your iniquity is full, which means you have
> > been corrupted beyond salvation. While my evangelical Christian
> > friends will chafe at these words, they are nonetheless true. Yahweh
> > provided the proof when he caused the flood, when he dealt with Sodom,
> > and when he ordered the annihilation of the Canaanites (people
> > extraordinarily similar to Jihadist Muslims). Christ told his
> > disciples to shake the dust off their sandals if the gift they were
> > offering, the good news of the Gospels, was rejected. All we can do
> > with good Muslims is to remove the sword from their hands so that bad
> > Muslims might know the truth and be freed to make the right choice.
> > > If you were a bad Muslim you know the truth. Muhammad was the
> > most evil man who ever lived. Allah was the most demonic god ever
> > conceived. The Qur'an was the nastiest book ever written. Islam was
> > the most hateful and violent fraud ever perpetrated on humankind. The
> > path to damnation has been revealed. As a former Muslim you are free
> > of the deceptions that have led you astray. So what now?
> > > First, I want to commiserate with you. You probably feel
> > dirty, like your soul needs a good scrubbing. You've got to feel
> > lonely, isolated, afraid. Allah orders Muslims to kill renegades.
> > Rejecting Islam takes courage. I admire yours.
> > > Second, I want to tell you about the bridge to eternity. But
> > understand, I cannot take you across it. The choice is yours alone,
> > and passage is single file.
> > > Choice! Ultimately, that's all that really matters. Not good
> > deeds, certainly not jihad, not prayer, ritual, religion, fear,
> > fasting, pilgrimages, taxes, or prophets. No. This is a one on one
> > thing between you and your Maker. He has a gift He wants to give you.
> > You can't earn it or pay Him for it. He alone earned the right to give
> > it to you; He alone paid the price. Now He's calling your name,
> > knocking at the door to your heart. If you hear him knocking and open
> > that door He will come to you and be with you. All you have to do is
> > accept his gift of eternal life; He'll do the rest.
> > > I want you to understand, I have nothing to do with this gift.
> > It's not mine to give. I can't save you. I get no bonus points for you
> > accepting. All I can do is point you in the right direction, explain
> > the rules of passage, and let you know how wonderful it is on the
> > other side. Working for the Boss is the greatest joy of my life. Every
> > day is a grand adventure. You see, I'm on a first name basis with the
> > Creator of the universe. Craig and Yahweh: He's my friend and my
> > father. And we're a lot alike because He created me in His image. Sure
> > I'm a little rough around the edges, but He loves me in spite of that.
> > I'm sure I make Him laugh, as He does me. I can almost hear Him cheer
> > as I battle the Devil. I can see Him smile when I figure something out
> > that He put in His Scriptures 3,000 years ago, knowing I'd find it.
> > > Yes, this is all very personal with me, as I hope it will be
> > with you someday. That said, it's time to make introductions. God's
> > name is Yahweh. It means I Am. His name answers the most important
> > question we can ask. His book, the Bible, was given to us so that we
> > might know Him. It's comprised of 66 books with a singular message: "I
> > love you. And I created you in My image so that we might enjoy a
> > personal relationship."
> > > The message is simple enough, but it's hard to develop a
> > relationship with someone you don't know-especially when you don't
> > even know yourself very well. So the Bible serves many purposes. It
> > introduces us to Yahweh. It explains what He is like so that we can
> > love Him, not fear Him. That was half of Yahshua's mission. God
> > incarnate came to earth in the form of a man to show us what He is
> > like. And what an example He set: He's loving, approachable, knowable,
> > talkative, caring, brilliant, powerful, funny, creative, even
> > humble-something we don't think of God being.
> > > The Bible is also an "Owner's Manual." In it we learn how to
> > operate all of our really advanced features. It tells us that faith is
> > trust and that love is power. It explains each of the spiritual gifts
> > that we have been given and how to use them effectively. But there is
> > a problem. Sin separates us from our Creator. He is perfect and we
> > aren't. So what to do?
> > > Fortunately, Yahweh recognized the problem and provided a
> > cure. Centuries before Christ came into our world in the form of a
> > man, Isaiah wrote: "All of us like sheep have gone astray. Each has
> > turned to his own way. But Yahweh has caused the iniquity of us all to
> > fall on Him. He was pierced for our transgressions and by his
> > scourging we are healed. He Himself bore the sin of many, and
> > interceded [became a bridge] for our transgressions." Yahweh told us
> > how He was going to solve the problem of sin; how He was going to
> > build a bridge from our polluted world to His perfect one. He said
> > that He would sacrifice Himself for our iniquity. The bridge is His
> > gift to us.
> > > Paul, centuries later, in his letter to the Ephesians wrote:
> > "You were dead in your trespasses and sins in which you did according
> > to Satan and his spirit working through the sons of disobedience.
> > Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh,
> > indulging the desires of the world and of our mind. But Yahweh, being
> > rich in mercy, and because of His great love for us, made us alive
> > together with Christ. By grace you have been saved through faith, and
> > that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not as a result of
> > works that no one should boast. By the blood of Yahshua, the Messiah,
> > we have been brought near Yahweh."
> > > John, the most passionate of Christ's disciples, composed
> > these stirring words: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
> > with God, and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh, and dwelt
> > among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory of the only begotten from
> > the Father, full of grace and truth. Whoever receives Him, He gives
> > the right to become His children, even to those who believe in Him.
> > For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
> > whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For
> > God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world; but that
> > the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is no
> > longer judged."
> > > Therefore, according to the Bible, there is no day of judgment
> > for those washed by Christ's blood. There are no rituals that earn
> > passage on his bridge -one built entirely out of the timbers upon
> > which He hung. There are no taxes, no tolls, no devotional
> > obligations, no pilgrimages, or prayer performances. Your salvation
> > isn't dependent upon the submission to, or acknowledgement of, any
> > prophet. Fear and fighting have no role. A simple "I do" will suffice.
> > Yahshua said, "I am the way the truth and the life; no one comes to
> > the Father but by me." He sacrificed himself so that your sins would
> > all be forgiven, abrogated, in Islamic parlance. His blood on the
> > cross of history, at the crossroads of civilization, frees you to
> > enter a personal and eternal relationship with Yahweh in paradise.
> > > To cross that bridge, you don't need to get on your knees,
> > close your eyes, bring your hands together, bow your head, or face
> > Jerusalem. You do, however, need to make a choice.
> > > Thirty years ago I was confronted with the Bible prophecies
> > revealed in the last chapter. I came to the only rational conclusion
> > possible: the prophets knew the future because they spoke for God. So
> > I did what I encourage you to do. I prayed: "God, I'm a sinner. Thank
> > you for sacrificing yourself so that I might know you. I accept your
> > gift of eternal life. Thanks for forgiving me. Please reveal yourself
> > so that I might understand who you are and what you want."
> > > Then, just as He promised, His spirit entered me. He changed
> > me. He did not make me perfect (although I am in his eyes); He made me
> > better. I began to read the Bible and His words pierced my soul, they
> > leapt off the page and into my mind and heart. I speak to you today as
> > His son, as a child born again in His image.
> > > May the truth set you free...
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- ----- Original Message -----From: Hogie McM] Re: Islam is a cancerMaurice:Yes, perhaps something similar akin to the reappearance of Christ in the Etheric,beginning in 1933, with the rise of Hitler in that same year, possession of the theSpear of Destiny....as I recall, there also is an interesting conjunction between Dr. Steiner'sbirthday (February 27?) and an important event in Hitler's life....On 1933 Feb 27, the Reichstag was burnt out. Despite the fact that the arsion's maker was a mental handicapped Dutch Communist, Van Lubbers, the arsion was totally managed by Nazi bosses, especially Goering and Goebbels, folloowing a Hitler's order. Historians agree on the fact that this event, that was immediately followed by the "legal" take of the absolute power by Hitler, was the actual beginning of we call , as Antrhroposphists, the "Beast's 12 years"See also Ben Aharon's "Imagination" book.I hope it is useful.Andrea.Perhaps someday in the distant future we will all be able to read the Akhashic record,view the tableau of Christ's etheric body, experience Him in the Etheric, and put all thisspeculation to rest, for then we will know.Hogie----- Original Message -----From: Maurice McCarthySent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:02 AMSubject: RE: [anthroposophy] Re: Islam is a cancerHogie
Interesting speculation. I guess, too, that as Michael is the dragon slayer
this would make sense of the incarnation of Ahriman during a Michaelic
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Re: [anthroposophy] Re: Islam is a cancerDittoAndrea----- Original Message -----From: JanSent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:10 AMSubject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: Islam is a cancerNo one ‘channels’ Michael. Jan
The following channeling was given to me by a lady
friend following a question about the time of
incarnation of Ahriman and in what part of the world.
I will leave it up to you how you deal with this,
We of Angelic Realm do honourably and sublimely
do understand your quest ... I Archangel Michael do
usher in New Age of understanding ... in that
beingness of universal capacity signifies different
analagous outlook than humans ... salvation of
heretics do administer relative theories of recent
discoveries of an entity superimposed by human need of
understanding etherial existance .. I Archangel
Michael do suggest to all that we of Angelic Realm
know nothing of said coming of your thought frame
analysis here in this dimension ... I do battle for
you ... but ... it is your own doing and belief ...
certain beings were placed on your earth to teach and
show the way back to spirit and enlightenment ... so
there is no antichrist .. persay ... if you must
believe in this theory .. be as it may ... your
beliefs are your own in that all humans have fears and
untrustworthy negotiations all through the ages ... to
your own doing .. I battle all your fears along with
my legions ... all your fears and prejudices are
man-made suggestions that are your stumbling block ...
in that in the universe there is no good or bad ...
all are the same ... it is true certain masters did
appoint themselves for greatness for opposite energy
understanding ... free choice is a treasured being
that all humans enjoy ... and use at will every day
... when you choose to believe certain manifistations
... they do administer recognition ... .. ... ... ...
... my dear Adrian ... your heart and light show you
the way to truth ... you are your own truth ... ...
... and to your question .. I cannot answer you in
your belief ... there is no antichrist ... only your
belief suggests as such ... all beings that come down
to earth were to teach you the way back to spirit ...
from whence you came ... you are all creators children
... by means of your inside heart and light you will
find him and all the answers are there ... I cannot
suggest any time line for it allready exists in the
minds and hearts of men ... ... ... ... ... ...
Thankyou for your time Adrian ... be still today ...
my friend ... you will see truth there ... inside ...
feel it .. hear it ... see it ... all understanding
becons for all there ... .. ... ... ... Archangel
Michael ... in comfort and in light forevermore
--- Minnie hah <minnie_hah@...> wrote:
I deeply appreciate these further resources, and find
I have all of these as well as some on your earlier
listing! WOW! The latter two are in my series entitled
"The Cosmic New year" while the November lectures are
all contained within "The Influences of Lucifer and
Ahriman; Man's Responsibility for the Earth," which
shows how old my inherited collection actually is! How
I do love the older translations due to Steiner's
repetitions of given points while highlighting yet
another facet of a given point - but then I can well
understand the lure of the more modern and perhaps
more easily read newer translations.
Thank you so very much! Had I thought clearly enough,
surely seeing the name Ahriman in a title should have
alerted me. Ah, well - yet another lesson learned!
--- Hogie McM <hogie@...> wrote:
> Dear Minnie:
> To further narrow your search:
> Dr. Steiner gave 6 lectures in a 2 month span
> (Oct 27-Dec 28, 1919) which basically
> covered his remarks on the incarnation of Ahriman.
> October 27, 1919 Zurich
> November 1 and 2, 1919, Dornach
> November 4, 1919 Bern
> December 25 & 28, 1919 Stuttgart
> Hope this assists you in your research!
> Are you living near a Pole?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Minnie hah
> To: email@example.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: Islam is a cancer
> Dear Hogie,
> I am very grateful to you for such a list of
> some of which I find I have on hand. It is
> to see the reference to your own lecture on this
> subject, and while I lack that as well as the
> Society's publications, the rest do indeed help.
> you for your work in providing us with this
> informative list.
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