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  • elaine121@xxxx.xxx
    Thanks, dear Bruce, for all on Zarathustra. And I look forward to more when you can get to it. Your HTML has lots of codes when it comes up on Juno (i don t
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      Thanks, dear Bruce, for all on Zarathustra. And
      I look forward to more when you can get to it.


      Your HTML has lots of codes when it comes up on Juno (i don't have web
      juno), but your post was
      still mostly readable. Thanks!

      Love,
      elaine
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      On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:50:55 +1000 "888" <bhive@...> writes:
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      >Nice to hear from you Elaine,
      >>Do you know what Rudolf Steiner had to say
      >>about Zarathustra and also about Zoroastrianism?
      >
      >A related subject came up on the Views list recently, namely the later
      >=
      >incarnations of Zarathustra. This question was not answered in full,
      >so =
      >give me some time and I'll post on that. (Being that after the =
      >Incarnation he became the Master Jesus.)
      >
      >>I can only remember that somewhere he says that
      >>of the two Jesus children, the one, the Solomon
      >>child, is of the line of the great being, Zarathustra.=20
      >
      >You'll find something in the Gospel of Matthew (RS lectures)- the
      >Royal =
      >Gospel.
      >
      >Also he often
      >>talks about, or mentions, the Persian Epoch (after the Indian and =
      >before the
      >>Greco-Roman), where Zarathustran
      >>teachings are at a height, i believe.
      >
      >Each of these Cultural Epochs have had a great Master. For the Persian
      >=
      >it was Zarathustra. There were many Zarathustras which followed the =
      >original in disciplic succesion, so confusion can arise over this.=20
      >
      >As to the meaning of the name: I have one as "keeper of yellow camels"
      >=
      >but we mainly prefer "Golden Star". (The Greek being Zoroaster, which
      >=
      >does suggest "star".)
      >
      >Of course the Zarathustrian god, Ahriman, makes frequent guest =
      >appearances in Steiner's work.
      >
      >He who was Zarathustra, is still to be highly regarded in our current
      >=
      >Western spirituality. Together with Master CR they are the two great =
      >Teachers of this time.
      >=20
      >
      >>What else?
      >
      >Of course the religion still exists in the fire worshiping Parsis.
      >They =
      >still carry on the beautiful traditions, like carrying a candle around
      >=
      >the house as a blessing and purification every day.
      >It was one of the first religons to understand that "cleaniless is
      >next =
      >to Godliness".
      >
      >
      >
      >>As those of you who are on open-circle know,
      >>I have requested posting from the Avesta and
      >>related texts, and these should be soon forthcoming.
      >
      >There were some modern books on the Zarathustrian diet and lifestyle,
      >=
      >maybe someone knows a title.
      >
      >
      >>What wisdom can Steiner offer us on these
      >>and the light of Ahura Mazdao (isn't that related?).=20
      >
      >The Aura of the Sun, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, it had to be
      >Zarathustra, =
      >who long before witnessed the descending Christ Spirit, and then took
      >=
      >such a crucial role in the Incarnation.
      >
      > --And would
      >>you be willing to post that on open-circle, as
      >>well as here?--I think folks would appreciate any such wisdom. I know
      >I
      >>would!
      >
      >
      >When I dig it up, I'll post it on there if you like.
      >
      >Warmest Greetings,
      >Bruce
      >
      >BTW do you know William Blake's "Songs of Innocence and Experience"?
      >This gives us a wonderful picture of the two Jesus children.
      >
      >(This post was in HTML just to test it out.)
      >
      >
      >
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      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"" size=3D2>Nice to hear from you=20
      >Elaine,</FONT><BR>>Do you know what Rudolf Steiner had to =
      >say<BR>>about=20
      >Zarathustra and also about Zoroastrianism?</DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000>A related subject came up on
      >=
      >the Views=20
      >list recently, namely the later incarnations of Zarathustra. This =
      >question was=20
      >not answered in full, so give me some time and I'll post on that.
      >(Being =
      >that=20
      >after the Incarnation he became the Master
      >Jesus.)</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
      >color=3D#ff0000><BR></FONT><BR>>I can only remember that somewhere
      >he =
      >says=20
      >that<BR>>of the two Jesus children, the one, the =
      >Solomon<BR>>child, is of=20
      >the line of the great being, Zarathustra. </DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"" size=3D2>You'll find something in
      >=
      >the Gospel of=20
      >Matthew (RS lectures)- the Royal Gospel.</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV>Also he often<BR>>talks about, or mentions, the Persian Epoch
      >=
      >(after the=20
      >Indian and before the<BR>>Greco-Roman), where =
      >Zarathustran<BR>>teachings=20
      >are at a height, i believe.</DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Each of these Cultural Epochs have had a =
      >great Master.=20
      >For the Persian it was Zarathustra. There were many Zarathustras which
      >=
      >followed=20
      >the original in disciplic succesion, so confusion can arise over
      >this.=20
      ></FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>As to the meaning of the name: I have one
      >as=20
      >"keeper of yellow camels" but we mainly prefer
      >"Golden=20
      >Star". (The Greek being Zoroaster, which does suggest=20
      >"star".)</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Of course the Zarathustrian god, Ahriman, =
      >makes=20
      >frequent guest appearances in Steiner's work.</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>He who was Zarathustra, is still to be
      >highly =
      >regarded=20
      >in our current Western spirituality. Together with Master CR they are
      >=
      >the two=20
      >great Teachers of this time.</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000> <BR></FONT><BR>>What else?</DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Of course the religion still exists in the
      >=
      >fire=20
      >worshiping Parsis. They still carry on the beautiful traditions, like
      >=
      >carrying a=20
      >candle around the house as a blessing and purification every =
      >day.</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>It was one of the first religons to =
      >understand that=20
      >"cleaniless is next to Godliness".<BR></FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV>>As those of you who are on open-circle know,<BR>>I have =
      >requested=20
      >posting from the Avesta and<BR>>related texts, and these should be
      >=
      >soon=20
      >forthcoming.</DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000>There were some modern books on the =
      >Zarathustrian diet=20
      >and lifestyle, maybe someone knows a title.<BR></FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV>>What wisdom can Steiner offer us on these<BR>>and the
      >light =
      >of Ahura=20
      >Mazdao (isn't that related?). </DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000>The Aura of the Sun, if I'm
      >=
      >not mistaken.=20
      >Yes, it had to be Zarathustra, who long before witnessed the
      >descending =
      >Christ=20
      >Spirit, and then took such a crucial role in the =
      >Incarnation.</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
      >color=3D#ff0000></FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV> --And would<BR>>you be willing to post that on =
      >open-circle,=20
      >as<BR>>well as here?--I think folks would appreciate any such
      >wisdom. =
      >I know=20
      >I<BR>>would!<BR></DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000>When I dig
      >it =
      >up, I'll post=20
      >it on there if you like</FONT>.</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT =
      >color=3D#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Warmest =
      >Greetings,</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
      >color=3D#ff0000></FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000>Bruce</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
      >color=3D#ff0000></FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
      >color=3D#ff0000></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#ff0000>BTW do you know William =
      >Blake's=20
      >"Songs of Innocence and Experience"?</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
      >color=3D#ff0000></FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"" size=3D2>This gives us a
      >wonderful =
      >picture of the=20
      >two Jesus children.</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3D"" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2>(This post was in HTML just to
      >test =
      >it=20
      >out.)</FONT></DIV>
      ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      ><DIV> </DIV>
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