7531Re: [anthroposophy] The initiations and us sinners
- Jan 25, 2003> Bro. Ron bemoans;
> >God isn't the problem. Our poverty of devotion and joy is the problem.
>Gratitude is a combining form of the words 'greatest attitude'and
> >such a state...exalted by it's very lowliness, is the one thing this world
> >needs desperately. But paradoxically, it only comes by asking...and
> >that in itself requires a certain humility sorely lacking amongst the
> >thought junkies and other homeless denizens lost in the ever shifting
> >patterns of definition.
> Bradford comments;bitter remorse are ye harboring in this our oft repeated
> What constant
> mutual lovefor Tolkien, the Inklings All, Nietzsche, Lewis, Barfield, all
> withtheir wonderous and complex contributions?
Bitterness? None, my brother...not much as a mite's worth.
...an agenda perhaps...but no acrimony whatsoever.
>aMany is the night we puffed
> smoke over the Ahrimanic overshadowing ofNietzsche... and were you not
> round the campfire when we discussed theportrait of the 'double' of Dorian
> Gray or the marvelous tale of, "TheFisherman and His Soul"? Pity, I thought
> it was you who brought upZanoni.
Yes, I remember the embers...and the thoughtful poking.
I also recall the pubs, the boisterous drafts shared
and the occasional slap on the scullery maids butt.
Nor is it without a certain stubbornness that I refuse to
let some of the less glamorous moments go. The recipe
of the ages would be less interesting without those goodly
helpings of pepper.
The function of the Shadow double isn't lost on me.
I don't think it necessarily to place him in Hod and
glamorize him, though. In fact it is dangerous for the
unwitting. Not unlike putting a pre-pubescent girl aloneonboard a square rigger with 40 hungry sea dogs.
> Now, as always, my knee is bent to theChrist Being and Lord of the Solar
> Rings. Yes, each destiny is complexand from understanding our diverse human
> struggles we gain insightsinto the world.. The Lord has made our hearts to
> love the mysteriesinside mens souls and the wonders of Nature. For with
> this gift healingand compassion are given direction and insight. When
> Christ releasedthe "Naked Man" were you not here, as we stirred the embers
> of thefire, and talked about the new nature, the Phantom Jupiter Being,
> thatnow haunts the moral world of humanity, soaking up our vision, art and
>greatness to plant in the future kingdom? Perhaps you had fallen asleep and
> that sweet smile was merely the kiss of angels as they lifted you toI am probably asleep to more things than I am awake to, I'm sure...I think. :-)
> I canrecall my astonishment at your songs, you made me finally get my sound
>blaster system attached so that I could hear your voice.I always had to rush
> to a neigbor to hear your works and how I have loved them. But now webicker
> on what we both believe is true? Or do you have a point to proveagainst the
> heartless intellects of Steiner students? My intellect andmy heart go hand
> in hand and my belief in the not so simple man namedJesus has not become
> less that I contemplate the mystery with everkeener eye.
Bradford. You have taken personally something that wasn't meant for you.
I do have a thing about 'heartless Steiner students" and this was the intended
destination of my thrust. But you? My friend, it is not a 'brown nose' that says,your heart shines through every word and it has from the very first post.I don't agree with your politics but who gives a shit?
The Mercy and Severity Pillars are often at odds. But sooner or later, all
men of goodwill will find a harmonizing haven in ecstatic Tiphareth.
>America is not mature enough yet to hold the Standard of Philosopher Kings..
> we must be served by whim, luck and manipulation, but better our eyesee
> and our heart know than blame god for our complex evilnature.I think you underestimate the forces that set America's wheels in motion.Perhaps this is the fruit of your European education. Time will tell, of course.
It is irresponsible to blame God for anything. 'Is-ness' does nothing. It just Is.
It is the trespass of "Is NOT-ness" that I find disturbing. Granted, tis but a
shadow but this doesn't justify ambivalence. There is a place for the DarkDoppelganger and it is not before us holding a place of honor. ("get thou behind me....")
> insincerity and fail toobserve the constant working of miracle before
> them..As to Wilde, histask and Nietzche's were to project the forces that
> would overshadowthe 20th and 21st century.
No doubt. As was Hitler's. Even more so. Ever read Mein Kampf?
It is not without it's brilliance! (let the flames begin)
> It was no easy matter for Wilde to plumb thedepths and grapple with
> the shadow enough to paint him for posterityand have high school students
> have an occult document like "Zanoni"before them. Not every soul is destined
> for such martydom and it goesdouble for Nietzsche - His mind fell to the dark
> clutches of Sauron andwe were privy to read exactly what the Lords of Ahriman
> and his minionschallenge humanity with.
Their genius is not at issue. Nor are their offerings un-valuable.
Nor are they unworthy of compassion.
It's just that I'm a father...and a grandfather ..and to place those who have fallen
above the innocent sparkle of men like CS Lewis is to place a stumbling block
in the paths of our progeny. This is just my opinion... and I could be wrong.
Like I said there are probably more things that I don't know, than I do know
and this may be one of them. But the binding in the pit of my stomach associatedwith certain thoughts has yet to misguide me.
> Nietzsche made us face the false webof thoughts we have built up about the simple Jesus Being. He made us aware of the powerful
> Beings still lurking in our souls. We forgot that GreatShadows are waiting
> for the Human Spirit to come forth and raise natureand humanity with the
> Freedom and Love a God gavethem.
Yea verily. No question about it.
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