3938Re: [anthroposophy] Re: A Question of interstellar Beings
- Jun 14, 2002In a recent post you asked for examples of when you parrot or simply offer uncritical support of AP :Your agreement with the post below is such an example. Instead of questioning the nature and apparent differences RS had about the "universal applications of laws of physics" in the universe; and seeking clarification for this ambiguous and somewhat dogmatic passage below, simple agreement is offered..For example:"We have no more right to regard the findings of physics and chemistry as applicable to the whole Universe than we have to assume that earthly gravity holds good throughout the Cosmos.....our general consciousness is so solidly encased nowadays that even the slightest remark which might pierce through the case, immediately appears strange."These statements will drive scientists crazy- not because they cannot understand it or may shock some but everything we have discovered from solar exploration continues to support our present theories of physics and astronomy. The effect of the moon's gravity and conditions other planets have been just as theorized to the best of our explorations to present. That there lies something more and spiritual behind the material has yet to be proven across the board except by mystics and explorers like RS.(though some of us are convinced this exists)One such example AP uses is that the Sun is really not a caldron of hot, superheated gases but a doorway to the etheric and if we "went there" (impossible physically) we would find something much different. I pity the poor space traveler from earth who flies directly to the sun and expects not be burned alive as he or she gets closer.But how? What are the real bridges between the etheric, astral and physical domains? Perhaps he used extreme caution to shy away from a complete explanation due it applied dangers in unscrupulous labs of the present time or it was just not possible to describe it. In some lecture courses an attempt was made (like the Warmth Course or Study of Man) but a great deal of work needs to done before his descriptions are comprehended and applied by many.Jeff----- Original Message -----From: DRStarman2001@...Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:10 AMSubject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: A Question of interstellar BeingsIn a message dated Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:39:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ghamin@... writes:
> "Man in the past, the present and the future" Stuttgart 14th September 1923:
> "... We all know that the strength of the light decreases wiht distance. Ordinary physics states the law that gravitation, too, decreases with the square of the distance. But people do not pursue this thought further. They can demonstrate that here on Earth, gravity has a particular magnitude and diminishes with the square of the distance, for they live on the Earth and establish laws of Nature and truths valid for the Earth, and build them into a system. Where gravity has a definite magnitude, thses laws are true. The force of gravity decreases, but also truth. What was true for the Earth ceases to be true if we pursue it further outwards into the Universe. We have no more right to regard the findings of physics and chemistry as applicable to the whole Universe than we have to assume that earthly gravity holds good throughout the Cosmos. The truths that rule in the heavenly spheres cannot be dealt with in the same way as those that hold on Earth. ...our general consciousness is so solidly encased nowadays that even the slightest remark which might pierce through the case, immediately appears strange. Modern men are so wholly tied to the Earth that their knowledge, even sometime their reflections, never pass beyond what they experience on Earth. And they deal with cosmic time exactly as they deal with cosmic
*******Exactly, and applying earthly ideas to higher realities, as opposed to developing the new kind of thinking necessary to grasp the etheric & astral, results only in a self-deception that excludes them from consciousness.
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