3814R: R: [anthroposophy] Re: A Question of interstellar Beings
- Jun 6, 2002Dear Bradford,
thanks for the pictures abouth the 8th sphere question.
I remember that spiritual teachers like Massimo Scaligero and Mimma
Benvenuti had the same insight about the fact that "up to date" no human
soul were lost in the Cosmic Hell.
I rember also,however, that Jesaiah Ben Aharon in his "the Spiritual Event"
gives a different picture (page 64 footnote 12) talkin'about the leading
group of Nazi criminal who, for the first time in Human evolution
perpertrate evil self-consciously.........
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From: Bradford Riley <holderlin66@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: R: [anthroposophy] Re: A Question of interstellar Beings
> From: DRStarman2001@...
> >Subject: Re: R: [anthroposophy] Re: A Question of interstellar Beings
> >Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:49:37 EDT
> >Incidentally, in the Qabala the inhabitants of the 8th sphere were known
> >the 'qlipoth' or shells. The 'djinn' was a generic term for all astral
> >sometimes, and sometimes was used for one type of them. It's the origin
> >the word "genius", which originally meant a being that incarnated with or
> >certain humans, like Socrates' "daemon", a demi-god or offspring of a
> >The saying was originally that a person "HAD a genius", not WAS a genius.
> Some study notes from another site;
> This leads us to the reason for the Avestan and Essene abyss.
> The Eight Sphere
> We have seen that the intentional cosmic deed of the War in Heaven led to
> the three hierarchies of evil. The Asuric, led by Adzura, resulted from
> recapitulation of the Old Saturn manvantara; the Ahrimanic, led by
> resulted from the recapitulation of the Old Sun manvantara and the
> Luciferic, led by Lucifer, resulted from the recapitulation of the Old
> manvantara. As a result, the evolution of the spiritual gifts (the three
> higher principles) given to mankind by the hierarchies are constantly
> attack by these legions of evil, which we have now come to call the
> of Darkness.
> Lucifer works thru the hierarchy of angels within the astral body; Ahriman
> works thru the hierarchy of archangels within the etheric body and Azdura
> works thru the hierarchy of Archai within the physical body. The elemental
> spirits of Lucifer work thru the elements of air and water. The elemental
> spirits of Ahriman and Adzura work thru the elements of earth and fire and
> working with fire is much more powerful than the other elements, as the
> ancient Atlanteans hopefully learned.
> The three hierarchies of archai-archangels-angels are reflected in the
> spheres of Father-Son-Holy Spirit in the regions of
> bodies in man.
> Lucifer in his battle in the sphere of the Holy Spirit was redeemed by the
> act of the Christ in His decent into hell after the crucifixion. Ahriman
> his battle in the sphere of the Son, will be redeemed in the future by the
> act of the Christ becoming the Lord of Karma. However, what is lost in the
> sphere of the Father, is forever lost to human evolution and the symbol of
> this is the abyss of the Eight sphere.
> The occult concept of the Eighth sphere was first made exoteric by
> A.P.Sinnett in his landmark book ESOTERIC BUDDHISM. Here he absolutely
> identified the Eighth sphere with the materiality of the moon. Some of the
> errors he made were later corrected by the Good Madame Blavatsky in her
> SECRET DOCTRINE, where she hoped that future editions of Sinnett's book
> would finally correct the mistakes. However, this was never done and the
> errors still persisted leading to the conclusion that the Eight sphere was
> the moon, the former sphere of Lucifer during the Old Moon manvantara.
> Later, when Dr. Steiner identified the nine interior levels of the earth
> with source levels of evil, the Eighth sphere became identified with the
> earth, the sphere of Ahriman. In addition, Steiner said that man could not
> penetrate with his consciousness the earth's interior thereby setting up
> absolute barrier for knowledge of the Eighth sphere. Dr. Steiner in his
> THE OCCULT MOVEMENT IN THE 19TH CENTURY (1915) tried to reconcile the two
> As we know, seven of the 12 conditions of consciousness are available to
> mankind thru the evolution of the seven manvantaras from Old Saturn to
> Vulcan. We are presently in the fourth, the Earth manvantara. These seven
> spheres represent successive stages of evolution and they occur within
> other, as transformations of the planet earth. Since the beginning of this
> Fourth round, Lucifer and Ahriman have had a plan to create or mineralize
> their own sphere, which at the end of plantetary evolution, would detach
> itself from the earth and go its own way into the cosmos. This sphere has
> come to be called in occultism, the Eighth sphere.
> In order to accomplish this task, it is necessary for a process of
> mineralization to occur. What are "imaginations" or thought forms in an
> earlier sphere, become materialized in the next sphere. Thus, the
> imaginations of humanity that occur during this Round, will descend from
> astral world during the next Jupiter sphere and become physical. This is
> especially true for the great works of art and music we produce now.
> During the transition from the Old Moon manvantara to the Earth
> what was formerly only imaginatively perceptible, becomes materially
> perceptible. This occurs by adding matter to the spirit by the process of
> mineralization. All the imaginations present in the Old Moon manvantara,
> should have passed over into Earth evolution to become mineralized.
> Lucifer and Ahriman stole certain imaginations belonging to the Old Moon
> evolution and when these are added to the sphere of Earth evolution, an
> Eighth sphere is created that works in opposition to the Divine Plan of
> The Earth sphere arrives out of the Old Moon sphere by virtue of the
> activities of the Spirits of Motion being added to the activities of the
> Spirits of Form. During the Fourth globe of this Fourth round, the mineral
> kingdom is added to the plant and animal kingdoms that previously evolved
> the Old Moon. When the activities of Lucifer and Ahriman are also added to
> the normal activities of the Spirits of Motion and of Form, the Eighth
> sphere becomes mineralized, presently with astral substance, which in the
> future, will become physical substance.
> Now, when these stolen imaginations become mineralized during our Earth
> evolution, they take with them certain physical atoms that rightfully
> to our Earth evolution. What is taken away is directed by Lucifer and
> Ahriman into the Eighth sphere in the hope of creating their own planet.
> This was the planet promised to Lucifer after the War in Heaven but, as
> can see from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, this planet was
> destroyed and only remnants remain, still in orbit. Thus, do the Spirits
> Form, "Battle for every morsel of substantiality capable of mineralization
> lest it should be wrested away from them by Lucifer and Ahriman and borne
> into the Eighth sphere."
> As a counter-weight to the astral materiality of the Eighth sphere, the
> Spirits of Form mineralized the moon, with a much greater density than
> of the earth. Thereafter, when the moon separated from the earth,
> JHVH-Elohim went with the moon to command the forces of the Elohim from
> there. Thus, the imaginations created during the Old Moon manvantara that
> were stolen by Lucifer and Ahriman which by now had mineralized into
> physical atoms, went out of the earth to remain in the physical moon. The
> mineral content of the present moon also contains the spiritual content of
> the Old Moon forces. As such, the major source of mineral atoms from which
> Old Moon imaginations could be mineralized, was removed from the earth and
> put back under the domain of the Spirits of Form as a physical
> counter-weight. However, what materiality that still remains within the
> earth sphere is subject to the war between the Lords of Light and the
> Spirits of Darkness, only the largest source has been removed.
> We see then the error of Sinnett was to mistake the astral corporality of
> the real Eighth sphere with the physical materiality of the moon. The moon
> in effect acts as a counter-weight, with its center of gravity located in
> the center of the moon, which is under the influence of JHVH. Like the
> field of forces of a magnet, the moon, as one pole, draws against the
> of gravity within the center of the earth, as the other pole, which is
> the influence of Ahriman. In the middle is the astral sphere of the Eighth
> sphere with Lucifer in his domain as leader of the Old Moon forces.
> The astral substance of the Old Moon forces (imaginations) is the actual
> Eighth sphere. As the astral becomes etheric and as the etheric hardens
> physical matter, so too the combined activities of the Spirits of Motion,
> the Spirits of Form and Lucifer/Ahriman would have passed over to the
> Jupiter manvantara only a shell of the earth, while at the same time
> creating a physical planet to further the evolution of the Spirits of
> Darkness. Whether or not this will actually happen is a matter of future
> evolution. Since our earth is the planet destined to become a future sun
> a far distant manvantara, with Christ as our leader, we do not want any
> competition from the Spirits of Darkness.
> What they really need is to capture a human soul to take with them.
> This has been symbolised in the past literature by the "pact with the
> such as seen in the 16th century HISTORIA VON D. JOHANN FAUSTEN,
> Marlowe's play and Goethe's FAUST. To date, no human soul has yet been
> to the Eighth sphere, including those of Nero, Ghengis Khan, Shaka Zulu
> Hitler. However, can this happen in the future sixth and seventh cultural
> epochs ?
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