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3784Re: [anthroposophy] Re: A Question of interstellar Beings

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  • jla
    Jun 2, 2002
      What is meant by material substance pre-existing relates not to the distant evolutionary past but now. For a being to materialize and maintain its form on earth (or on another material planet)  a long and complex process is needed. No being that I have heard reference to can just decide to materialize a body or object and have it maintain its form in time. By this I mean, some yogic and magical practices enable someone to materialize something physical but it will last only as long as the concentrated will and image is held by the practioner. In the case of paranormal events and objects, this is not the case. The Beings and objects are clearly functioning in space and time without using occult means to sustain it. This can only lead to the conclusion that the objects (spaceships or technological objects) were manufactured or that the being went through a birth process and are living as organic or quasi organic beings.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Carol
      Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 12:25 AM
      Subject: Re: [anthroposophy] Re: A Question of interstellar Beings

      ( If one says that all of nature is the
      > result of the activity of spiritual beings that is
      > different because the material substances must be
      > pre-existing for them to be active within. ) I just cannot
      > see how this model explains the great number of reports or
      > even certain parapsychological anatomies like mediums or
      > saints levitating and defying the laws of gravity.

      I don't see how this model is attempting to explain how we

      What do you mean about material substance having to pre-exist
      for 'them' to be active within...This isn't as Cartesian as
      it sounds is it? I assume I'm misreading the idea there.  I
      never thought about the Big Bang happening as a purely
      'material' event and then spiritual being deciding to occupy
      the results.

      To me it's just not a strange idea at all to think that there
      are beings from other 'planets' communicating with us in a
      language that we can understand.  I don't have to picture
      them flying through space to appreciate the contact, but I
      can.  It doesn't make a big difference.  But for me it makes
      more sense to imagine the beings epistemologically working
      towards those earthlings who have signed up for some very
      specific rides...


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