164FWD Christian Socialism
- Aug 24, 1999Hi Bobby,
>I see nothing communistic or socialistic per se in the quotes above,and
>a lot of similarity to the kind of world humanity can build on theideas
>and technology of Andrew J. Galambos.Again, I personally don't have any political axe to grind.
My point, still unchallenged, is that RS repeatably told us that the
coming race was one of Christian Brotherhood:
"But from a small colony in the East [in foot note: The Slavonic
peoples] there will be developed, as though from a seed, new life for
the future. The economic needs of existence will then be separated from
work: there will be no more personal possession, everything will be
owned in common. One will no longer work for one's personal existence,
but will do everything as absolute offering for humanity."
Rudolf Steiner, Foundations of Esotericism, lecture 8, Rudolf Steiner
Press, London, 1983, p. 232.
Read this in context with the rest of the lecture and I gurantee no
reasonable person can disagree that it is RSs teaching on the matter.
Notetakers may get a word wrong here or there wrong, but not whole the
concept of a paragraph or lecture. Christian Socialism is the keynote of
the Sixth Epoch- all the quotes point to it, anything else "river in
What is your take on what RS meant by "free work"? We don't have to wait
until the 6th Race, Karl Koenig and others, built their communities on
it. There are many brilliant minds in Camphill who could be raking it in
the private sector. But they don't, they've had an intuition of our
future - a brighter day.
Which brings up the question of competition - notice how this is avoided
in Waldorf Schools?
There is also the question about the morality of competitive sports.
The problem we have in understanding each other is the confusion of
Ahrimanic Socialism with Christian Socialism as outlined by Rudolf:
"An impulse in life can be harmful by itself, but can be beneficial in
co-operation with other impulses..."
A diagram is drawn of three converging streams Ahr. socialism, Luciferic
freedom of thought, Mankind's Representative [Christ] Spiritual Science.
"One direction is to symbolise for us the socialism to which modern
mankind is striving - not just current Lenin socialism. The second line
is to symbolise what I have often characterised as to you as freedom of
thought, and the third direction is Spiritual Science. THESE THREE
THINGS BELONG TO ONE ANOTHER; THEY MUST WORK TOGETHER IN LIFE.
"If socialism, in the crude materialistic form in which it appears
today, attempts to force itself upon mnkind, it will bring the greatest
unhappiness upon humanity. It is symbolised by Ahriman...."
"If the false freedom of thought, which wants to stop short at every
thought and make it valid, seeks to force itself, then harm is again
brought to mankind. This is symbolised in our Group by Lucifer. But you
cannot exclude neither Lucifer or Ahriman from the present day, they
must be balanced through Pneumatology, through Spiritual Science, which
is represented by the Representative of Mankind...."
Ancient Myths their Meaning & Connection with Evolution, Lect 5, 11th
I don't have anything more to say about the 6th Epoch now; others may
have their turn - Apocalypse lectures maybe.
Mammon and his activities are for the next time I get on my soap box.
In light-hearted freedom,