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11628Re: Amoeba contra Manu

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  • carol
    Oct 15, 2006
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      Dear Bradford, thank you for your `rich' response. I especially
      enjoyed reading your conclusion in it's entirety.


      "What truly disturbs one and presents one with
      another aspect of looking down the Well of the I AM and looking at
      the overview and understanding the horrific courage it requires to
      ripen and mature..."

      This statement touches me deeply because at the age of 22, I was
      subject to a sudden metamorphoses; karmic events triggered me to
      abruptly abandon the use of recreational drugs; I was almost
      instantly placed in the higher worlds without education. I used all
      the ingenuity, energy of my youth and all internalized experiences;
      to climb the great mountain of my soul's and eternal self's wish for
      me as if I was a penniless orphan, on hands and knees…

      Bradford, the heavens gave me `living' Drama for which I am
      eternally grateful and now, quite attached to as well. Carol.



      --- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, "holderlin66"
      <holderlin66@...> wrote:
      >
      > carol wrote:
      >
      > "...I can retrieve quite vividly the experience of having
      > embodied a naturally occurring creative force of `astral' beauty in
      > my 32th year, (which incidentally has me still marveling), it's
      > worth noting that I know that at that time, I wasn't ripe to absorb
      > the `living' meaning of the statement concerning Zarathustra and
      > Christ.
      >
      > (Of course, Z's soul/spirit's participation in the mystery was
      quite
      > THE exception)
      >
      > For this, I was only really able to incorporate into my conscious
      > experience, in a living way, without hesitation, only recently,
      just
      > past my mid forties.
      >
      > Would YOU say that this `mature' experience points towards the
      > reasons why Steiner insisted on individuals waiting until their
      > forties before assuming an `authoritative' voice vis ä vis
      > spiritual science?
      >
      > As opposed to creating (deciphering) theories/art forms from
      > within `the lively experience of youth'.
      >
      > Here are two distinct life stages which are spaced out and differ
      in
      > caracter: exceptional creative inspiration within (the fountain of)
      > youth and unwavering conscious soul experience (through having
      > processed enough complex `life' experiences and also from
      possessing
      > an intuitive experience of mortality)
      >
      > Would you like to elaborate on these ideas? Carol."
      >
      > Bradford comments;
      >
      > Carol it is great to hear your spiritual voice. (As thought is
      > spiritual activity). For those of us who are not Zarathustra, we
      can
      > dig up example after biographical example of how our unprepared,
      and
      > semi-karmically prepared I AM's start facing our instincts at the
      30
      > to the 35 mark. Distinctly we can fetch Bill Gates and we can note
      > how his attention, mission, destiny, certainly centered on the
      > objectification of the Global Intelligence that could well up,
      gush
      > upwards from the deep gorge of untapped human vision, in
      > connectedness everywhere. Thus all those particpating, if they
      have
      > the means, would be faced with a storm of hidden information, vast
      > fingertip libraries of humanity, Porn, and instincts, raw thought,
      > Orwellian thought, Luciferically watered down or poison pill laced
      > thought. Ahrimanic data, numbers, cold cruel pictures of human
      > beastliness, the worst and most hideous beastliness in all of the
      > beastly kingdoms.
      >
      > With this information it is not hard to see with senstive artistic
      > imagination and intuition how hardened, rigidified and icy
      > standpoints congeal to Horns. Ten horns or horned beasts that
      > represent rigidified, forming slowly, Corporate Political systems
      > that calcify into overall materialistic mind sets, that sit
      > comfortably in tens of millions.
      >
      > When you add nano technology and how ahrimanic forces which have
      the
      > intent to rip fragments of cloned humanity out of the karmic star
      > fabric, such a fantasy as depicted in films like the "The
      > Island" "Gattica" "Blade Runner" ...where humans are grown for
      > replacement and organ parts, for Gold and Immortality and serve
      the
      > calcification of the disease avarice, the entire Corporate anti-
      > Sophia realm of The Whore of Babylon, isn't even hard to picture
      it
      > developing out of human instincts the way John saw it.
      >
      > John did the best he could to describe it, rising up out of the
      > intinctual morass of humanity, as a great congealing Anti-Human
      > factoring.John's Whore of Babylon was the Shadow on Earth of
      bright
      > Sophia Star wisdom fallen into human snares. Steiner updated and
      > filled in some of the blanks that John left as theory and Steiner
      > brought us into current Michael Speak which is different than
      > Orwell's NEWSPEAK. At the Dawn of the Age of Light we were given
      > updates and clarifications of all that was semi clouded and
      confused
      > coming from human I AM events.
      >
      > "Newspeak was the official language of Oceania and had been
      devised
      > to meet the ideological needs of Ingsoc, or English Socialism. In
      > the year 1984 there was not as yet anyone who used Newspeak as his
      > sole means of communication, either in speech or writing. The
      > leading articles in The Times were written in it, but could only
      be
      > carried out by a specialist. It was expected that Newspeak would
      > have finally superseded Oldspeak (or Standard English) by about
      the
      > year 2050"
      >
      > Seattle Times:
      >
      > "The use of powerful and well-placed words and images worked for
      > INGSOC. Its slogan — war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance
      is
      > strength — fits like a truncheon in the cradle of shattered
      bone..."
      >
      > Bradford continues;
      >
      > Intelligent human beings don't have to be reminded that Orwell did
      > us a service in writing his "1984". Grotesque human regime
      examples
      > can be given that go back to France and Phillip the Fair that
      > overturned anything to do with the feeble voice of the Magna
      Carta,
      > on through the regime of the Inquisition and the torturing of the
      > Templars giving us a mid-line of 1332 that lasted well beyond that
      > period, to Stalin, Nazi Germany, Mao, and again the little section
      > of time at the dawn of the 21st century, reveals once again the
      > activiation of this Karmic Group, intent on ripping fragments of
      the
      > I AM out of the Star patterns. How?
      >
      > Shakespeare and all that we could, if we so desired, to understand
      > regarding why Ahriman wishes to destroy the tool of human karma by
      > creating on Earth cloned replications that rip human karma to
      > shreds, is simply there before us in the little poetic tragedy of
      > the Kennedy brothers and Romeo and Juliet.
      >
      > "When he shall die take him and cut him out into stars and he
      shall
      > make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love
      > with night and pay no worship to the garish sun." Quoting
      > Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, Robert Kennedy at the Democratic
      > National Convention, 8/27/64." TAKE HIM AND CUT HIM OUT INTO
      STARS.
      > As we do when we cut little stars that are all the same because we
      > have scissors and we can see how the folded paper is all linked
      into
      > a whole.
      >
      > Bradford concludes;
      >
      > Carol and I agree that ripening, the immense instincts, those same
      > instincts that rose up when the milkman in Amish PA. America, at
      32,
      > took innocent girls hostage because he could not bear to see what
      > the I AM of his conscience knew of his own dark, dark, intent. And
      > what happens when we humans get to know all the secrets of our
      dark,
      > dark intents, that are swirling in the depths of our instincts?
      Bill
      > Gates opened these vast doors to the gurgling flood gates and
      surge
      > of all that is wisdom in humanity, our own Steiner Internet and
      > Archive had to struggle with complacent Anthros and still does, to
      > meet the vast instincts humanity carries and antidote them with
      > Michael Speak or Michael thought.
      >
      > We know that adults on the path of Initiation Schooling get to
      know
      > that these dark intincts are not meant to hit the intellect with
      > their raw intensity without some preparation. That at 29 at the
      > Saturn return, to well into the Jupiter and Saturn age of our
      > biography we are entrusted to digest and ripen the kind of balance
      > of wisdom that does not place the human being alone with his
      demons
      > but gives him or her the tools of the Consciousness Soul.
      >
      > But Bill Gates opened the world to vast, vast instincts, insights,
      > wisdom and tools....And Bill Gates was a mere 33 to 35, and if we
      > just look at Bill Gates Mission, we understand that if we take the
      > POF and open the mystery...Now kids, open the mystery literally
      > means looking down into the dark well of our deepest instincts,
      and
      > the roots of our I AM. What truly disturbs one and presents one
      with
      > another aspect of looking down the Well of the I AM and looking at
      > the overview and understanding the horrific courage it requires to
      > ripen and mature... there is the example of the very well we are
      > speaking about, in the film, "The Ring".
      >
      > Naturally it is but a film. It is but a depiction of how we
      > penetrate to a most horrific mystery. A mystery that has addictive
      > power to it. It is a disturbing little film, "The Ring". Aside
      from
      > looking down the deep well and ripening our intelligence to face
      the
      > problems we have opened up, (opened a can of worms) the POF and
      all
      > aspects of Spiritual Science call upon the student to gain their I
      > AM compass orientation from the depths of looking into the deepest
      > mysteries of the Well and roots and connections to the depths of
      the
      > Earth.
      >
      > Take for instance that the Water that Christ changes into wine
      that
      > is drawn from a well, and put in clay jars, six or seven clay
      jars.
      > Now Christ is going to first change this water from the deep
      bowels
      > of the etheric earth, into wine. Ah but he doesn't just decide to
      do
      > that, there is a wedding and a surge of joy and what we call
      > happiness and intoxication, a point where lots of people get
      > together, contribute and support, offer freely their gifts to some
      > couple who is being wed. An astral surge runs through the close
      knit
      > wedding guests, they make bread, contribute tables, sow fabrics,
      get
      > dressed up, the farmer planted, the plants grew, the meals were
      > cooked, the bread and flat breads were made from the flower, the
      > donkey's turned the stone wheel that ground the wheat. Vegtables
      > helped, gnomes helped, salamandars served the Donkey's, fires and
      > ovens had been made and trees grew fruits and were cultivated by
      > human hands and olives were sprinkled over the greens and the
      bread
      > dipped in the olive oils. These utter basics are all contributed,
      > not from a super-market but rather are all called forth from the
      > treasure of old instinctive causes for celebration, community and
      > human union. Instinctive Causes for celebration.
      >
      > Christ adds to this a new force where enthusiasm and joy change
      the
      > entire chemical forces in the clay jars, and the water drawn from
      > the deep regions of the Earth, in a small etheric science miracle,
      a
      > new cognitive force has been changed by the I AM's participation.
      > The I AM has plenty of sweet instincts in the well and in these
      > days, what seems to sell are plenty of bitter forces that lurk
      like
      > monsters in the well as well. Steiner was an I AM initiate and he
      > like the rest of us was living in a science age where the I AM was
      > not even on the table as a consideration. Steiner as an I AM
      > initiate went down the well and brought out Biodynamics, Waldorf
      > Education, Eurythmy and the full fledged Science of the I AM in
      > potential.
      >
      > And one more thing, the film "The Ring" centers around the problem
      > of one child who has something so potent, say, a complete 24/7
      wide
      > awake, immortal force in her that cannot die and cannot be
      removed,
      > it is an acute problem that can either be understood as our
      immortal
      > core or rejected and become the curse and bane of humanity by
      > rejecting it. We cannot kill this immortal core. We can only learn
      > to ripen our courage to grasp how each individual child can be
      given
      > the tools and foundation to cope with the great thoughts of the
      > world and navigate and be given a compass that holds to a true
      > Spiritual North.
      >
      > Naturally adults who are morally ripened individual are able to
      > educate children and one of the Miracles of the Science of the
      > Consciousness Soul is the conscious curriculum structure of
      Waldorf
      > Education. Biodynamics is another raw Science of the Consciousness
      > Soul and a victory of the I AM in the instincts of the Earth and
      > Stars. Waldorf Education extends into the Angelic intervention
      where
      > humans can plant the tools of consciousness that will be needed so
      > that by age 32 to 72 humanity can ripen the immense depth of the I
      > AM. Because as Carol has said, we are not Zarathustra's. We are
      slow
      > and stubborn humans.
      >
      > Zarathustra had consolidated most of his former faculties by age
      > TWELVE. So Zarathustra's twelve is like our age 30 in terms of the
      I
      > Am ratio of speed and growth compared to the physical body of
      seven
      > years and the etheric body and the astral body and finally the
      speed
      > of the I AM are all differently paced clocks in the human psyche.
      >
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