Re: both sides deserve truth from USDA
>>Pleco's argument makes more sense thanyour response. For one thing, animal rights activists,
even the ones "swayed" emotionally be PeTA, have to
put their money with their mouths are,
literally.>><br><br>Resisting the temptation to point out that anyone who's
given money to PeTA thinking they are 'helping animals'
has been badly ripped off, I'll simply point out that
people put their money where their mouths are every
single day - every time they go to the grocery store, in
fact.<br><br>>> It is not easy to boycott animal products in a
meat-obsessed society, not to mention to resist the
ever-present temptation to partake in the
carnality.>><br><br>Sure it is. I know many people who are practicing
vegetarians; there's no societal onus against vegetarianism.
There IS and should be a societal onus on being a
sanctimonious, self-righteous pain in the butt about it, and
preaching at other people about the 'evils of eating meat.'
I do not refer to open and voluntary debate as
here, by the way. We all know the deal here. I do refer
to the vegan 'evangelists' like the PeTA kook
dressed as a carrot that appeared in front of a Boulder
elementary school out here a year or so back.<br><br>
>>Resisting socially accepted practices, particularly thosethat provide enjoyment, is not easy.>><br><br>It
is if you make it your own business.<br><br>>>
Being an animal rights advocate requires more than just
yelling and screaming- it requires a fundemental change
in one's lifestyle.>><br><br>So do many other
things. So does being a dedicated hunter, for that
matter. So does writng a 312-page book on the Animal
Rights movement.<br><br>>>Therefore, it is
accurate to say it is much easier and therefore probably
more likely that meat-eaters are not considering the
implications of their decisions than animal advocates
are.>><br><br>It may be in some cases, it may not in others;
you're engaging in an unsupportable gross
generalization.<br><br>>>There is another aspect to all this: what makes it so
hard to be an animal rights advocate is the
sympathetic anguish one is forced to experience on a daily
basis when internalizing the suffering endured my
animals in our society.>><br><br>A rational
analysis of the claims made by the AR groups will put the
lie to many of their claims of 'suffering,'
though.<br><br>>> It has made me, for one, a much sadder person
than I was before I opened myself to
it.>><br><br>It shouldn't. <br><br>>> It is much more
comforting to only sympathize with those who are in the
least duress, but once you open yourself up to the
suffering of those who lack protection, any protective
walls you might have had fall down.>><br><br>But
your (generic 'your', mind) estimation of 'suffering'
is based on the poorest of sources - the mouthpieces
of the radical Animal Rights movement.
- Here's a new debate topic - animal rights v.
animal welfare. Excuse me if it's already been taken.
I'm just bored and need something to do. Personally,
I support animal welfare. I think groups like PETA
and HSUS definately need to sort out some problems -
don't think I that I think adopting animals and
everything is wrong, because I adopted a dog from our local
shelter last Feb., but look at the statistics (found from
<a href=http://littlegems.hypermart.net/1/ARA.html target=new>http://littlegems.hypermart.net/1/ARA.html</a>) - PETA sent Rodney Coronado's "support
committee", the guy who bombed the animal research place,
$45,200, which is 15 times as much as they donate to
animal shelters every year. Less than .03% ($5,000)of
PETA's $13.4 million dollar budget was given to shelter
spay/neuter programs in the US. 90% of PETA's donation money
was spent on it's new satellite offices in Germany.
HSUS does not operate a single shelter, even though
they have a 40 million dollar budget.That's enough to
operate at least one good shelter in every state, plus
they'd have enough money left over to feed, spay,
neuter, and save the lives of thousands of dogs and cats
every year. But they did manage to pay it's president
and vice president a combined amount of $446,882.
Something seems a little fishy, maybe they're really not
devoted to animal rights, just lots of $?<br>Whitewolf