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Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: Batchelder, George Alexander

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  • Vincent Barrows
    Hi Susan; Thanks for the quick responses and here is the post, revised with corrected links. The following source is dated to 1870, and provides an interesting
    Message 1 of 3 , Feb 4, 2007
      Hi Susan;
      Thanks for the quick responses and here is the post, revised with corrected links.
      The following source is dated to 1870, and provides an interesting bit of information about the earliest European arrivals. I go on to describe a similarity between royal crests used at the Cahokia Mounds and in early British heraldic emblems. As suggested by Dewdney, the piasa resembles the british lion.
      This was written in 1870 by the Secretary of the Dakota Territory in 1870 and has a lot of related info, but also includes racist slurs against the native Americans, calling them "Savages". Please replace this word in you minds eye with "countrymen".
      I found a very excellent source entitled:
      Batchelder, George Alexander. A Sketch of the History and Resources of
      Dakota Territory. 71 pp. Map. 1870.
      And here is a part of this, typed here for your review:
      "The earliest historical record which we have of these Indians of
      North America, is found among the Icelandic and Danish authorites,
      wherein it is claimed that in the year 986, Eric Rauda, emigarated
      from Iceland to Greenland, and formed a settlement of Northmen. No
      mention is made, however, by these adventurous Northmen, of the
      appearance of natives on the shore of North America until 1004 when
      Thorwald, the son of Eric, Earl of Norway, while sailing along the
      coast between Newfoundland and Greenland, discovered three canoes upon
      the beach, and under each canoe three esquimaux, called by the
      Northmen, Skroelings, A contest ensued, and eight of the nine natives
      were killed. The ninth fled into the back ground of the bay and soon
      returned with a vast number of his people, whereupon the party of the
      Northmen retreated to the vessels and set sail to the southward,
      Thorwald being fatally wounded by an arrow. In 1005, Throstein, the
      Brother of Thorwald, set sail for the new found land, with his wife,
      Gudrida, the first white woman known in history as having visited the
      shores of America, and who three years after her arrival gave birth to
      the first child of European descent born in the New World.
      In 1007, Thornfin, a wealthy personage, descended from Danish,
      Norwegian, Swedish, Irish, and Scottish ancestors, arrived off the
      coast of New England, near Mount Hope Bay, with two ships and 140 men
      and women. Here they discovered fields covered with wheat growing
      wild, and they were visited by great numbers of natives in canoes, who
      were described as a sallow-colored, ill looking race of people, with
      long hair, large eyes, and broad cheeks. In 1011, a quarrel was
      incited by Frydesia, daughter of Eric, which proved fatal to a large
      number of the colonists. From this period the Northmen appear to have
      become estranged and lawless, and amalgamated with the wild natives of
      the country. In 1026, Gudleif, and Icelandic navigator, who was driven
      upon this unknown shore, was seized, with his crew, by the natives,
      and carried into the interior, where they were accosted by a venerable
      chief speaking their own language, who inquired after certain
      individuals in Norway.
      The natives were described at that date of a red color, and very cruel
      to strangers.
      From this period we hear nor more of this northern colony until 1059
      when a Saxon priest, named Jon, who was sent out as a missionary to
      the colonists, arrived and was murdered by the heathens.
      In 1121, the Bishop of Greenland undertook the same voyage, for the
      same purpose, but both his success and fate are undetermined by
      history. From this period until the date of discovery of America by
      Columbus in 1492, there is no historical mention of the early
      colonists or natives of North America.
      In the early part of the fourteenth century, according to numerous and
      accredited authorities, Prince Madoc, or Madawe, from North Wales, Set
      sail with ten ships and a large colony of his countrymen, who are
      supposed to have landed somewhere on the coast of North America. None
      of the colonists have ever returned to their own country. The best
      authorities have been only able to trace them to the mouth of the
      Mississippi river; but according to the history and poetry of their
      own country, this colony settled somewhere in the interior of North America, where the descendants may yet remain, intermingled with the
      savage tribes."
      The "Pi-A-Sa" seems to show that even around Cahokia Mounds depictions
      of mythic creatures on rock faces indicate an even earlier invasion
      from Europeans. The expert on Mide birchbark scrolls, Selwyn Dudeney,
      even agrees that the British lion from around 1100-1340 has a similar
      appearance to Mishipizheu. These symbolic heraldic crests were painted on the rock faces very early on and serve to indicate a Kings crest. Many if not all of the tablet forms also convey a royal lineage, as shown by the similarity to the Luba Lukasa, and to the Australian Churingas.  The Native Americans fought with bravery and heroism to defend their lands against invaders.
      Below is a summary of my research into Materials that indicate the
      possible origin of the Piasa.
      Etching on this artifact does represent Mishipizheu
      Agawa Bay, Upper Peninsula Michigan petroglyph of Mishipizheu (water
      Piasa, Marquette Journal 1673, Mishipizheu
      Winnebago War Club, Two Mishipizheu
      "Two Lenape Stone Masks from Pennsylvania and New Jersey." Museum of
      the American Indian, Heye Foundation, Indian Notes, and Monographs,
      Miscellaneous Series 3. New York, 1920.
      Henry II (1133 † 1189), son of previous, king of England, duke of
      Normandy, count of Anjou
      Richard (1209 † 1272), earl of Cornwall, then king of the Romans, son
      of John Lackland, king of England
      Arms of the counts of Poitiers (see Richard Lionheart above), with a
      Spiro Mounds Shell Cup, theoretically, depicting circles of Cahokia
      Mounds Woodhenge
      Philip Phillips and James A. Brown, Pre-Columbian Shell Engravings
      from the Craig Mound at Spiro, Oklahoma, 2 vols. (Cambridge: Harvard University, Peabody Museum Press, 1978.
      (Photo by J. G. Braecklein, 1936)
      Theoretically, maces cached for safety after victory at Cahokia Mounds.
      Their lands have been squandered away from them unjustly in 1000 years, due to small pox, countless wars, broken treaties, and "National Sacrifice" zones where nearly 1000 nukes were "tested" directly adjacent to their reservations. Even The John Wayne died from exposure to nuclear fallout when he was on an indian reservation, along with half the crew of the movie that was filmed there. That is documented in one film called "The Dragon the Slew St. George." Today, we may be continuing the count down to nuclear annihilation of the human race. What else will the USA do with its over 50 thousand nukes, and the other countries do with their massive 30 thousand plus stockpiles.
      time will tell, so lets live.

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