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      Investigating pre-Columbian contact, lost races, ancient astronomy, navigation, and migration, cultural oddities, associated diffusion evidence and the truly unexplainable. Oh, and the odd musician, band, or comedian may stop by. Some are really odd… 


      Hello Loopers!  (and Yoopers)


      In this issue:


      This Week's Show:  Mr. Semir "Sam" Osmanagic & The Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids.



      Op/Ed:  Chris Again


      This Day in History:   


      Special Entry: The Little People


      Possum Holler News It was a dark and snowy night


      Other news:  Man's oldest friend: Scientists discover the grandad of modern dogs



      Events: Send your organization's events to  oz@...



      Last week's show:   Live from Marquette



      Next week's show:  AAPS Re-Cap and announcing the Copper Trail Project


      Site of the week  Guardian






      This Week's Show:   Mr. Semir "Sam" Osmanagic & The Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids.


      Amid  massive skepticism, academic denials, legal battles, and vitriolic criticism, Sam Osmanagic continues to study and promote the Bosnian pyramids. Having seen his presentation at the AAPS Conference, examined the evidence presented on the various web pages, read most of the available counterpoints, and having weighed the value of each, I decided to invite Sam to talk directly to the OLC audience to let them make their own assessment. A recent (23 September), bona fide archeological discovery in the immediate vicinity adds fuel to the fire.


      Found by German archeology students in Valley of the Pyramids

      I hope you can give a listen this week: Thursday at 9 PM EDT




      Op/Ed:   Chris Again


      Yes, I'm recycling and updating my very first editorial (from 2 October 2007)


      Good Ol' Chris
      by Rick Osmon
      Columbus, according to nearly all the history books, was the first to discover what later became known as the "Americas". The facts that he never set foot on either of the continents of the western hemisphere nor knew that he hadn't reached "Cathay", (that is, he didn't even know where he was) don't seem to matter to the historians. Not to take away from the fact that he set out on a voyage that risked life and limb along with reputation, but he didn't really make the great discovery he intended --a direct sailing route to the Indies from the Iberian peninsula.
      Monday, October 13th, 2008, the US Government, banks, schools, Postal Service, and many other institutions once again recognized Chris' accomplishments by observing a National Holiday. And that's fine, Chris deserves recognition for his adventerous spirit. On the other hand, Hawaii observed Discoverer's Day , South Dakoa observed Native American Day, and Arizona ignored it all together.  The city of Berkeley celebrates Indigenous People's Day instead of Columbus Day every year with a pow wow and Native American market.
      The first Columbus Day celebration was held in 1792, when New York City celebrated the 300th anniversary of his landing in the New World. In 1892, President Benjamin Harrison called upon the people of the United States to celebrate Columbus Day on the 400th anniversary of the event.

      Some Italian-Americans observe Columbus Day as a celebration of their heritage, the first occasion being in New York City on October 12, 1866.[1][2] Columbus Day was first popularized as a holiday in the United States through the lobbying of Angelo Noce, a first generation Italian, in Denver. The first official non-centennial Columbus Day was decreed by Colorado governor Jesse F. McDonald in 1905 and made state law in 1907.[3] In April 1934, at the behest of the Knights of Columbus (a Roman Catholic fraternal service organization named after Christopher Columbus), Congress and President Franklin Delano Roosevelt set aside October 12 as Columbus Day[4] and a Federal holiday.[5]

      Since 1971, the holiday has been commemorated in the U.S. on the second Monday in October, the same day as Thanksgiving in neighboring Canada. It is generally observed today by banks, the bond market, the U.S. Postal Service and other federal agencies, most state government offices, and many school districts; however, most businesses and stock exchanges remain open.

      What about all the other great explorers? Lewis and Clark, Magellan, Neil Armstrong, Daniel Boone, Marco Polo, Andrew Perry, Fridtjof Nansen, Roald Amundsen, Willem Barents, Henry Hudson, Eirick the Red and his son, Leif Ericksen, Jabez Osmon, Jan Van Meteren, and all the others who "went exploring" or settled in unsettled lands and thus opened new vistas for the human race? Don't they deserve recognition? They, at least, usually knew about where they were on the globe. Yes, I threw in a couple lesser knowns, but they're my direct ancestors and this piece is all about honoring those who went before all others so that the present and future generations could know the world better than their predecessors did. I should also add that geographical exploration isn't the only kind of exploration that deserves honor and recognition: What Watson & Crick did for genetics, what Dr. Barry Fell did for epigraphy, what Francis Kelly Johson did for aviation, and countless others in countless professions and avocations should also be equally honored.
      The point is, why not honor ALL explorers instead of just the one? We used to observe both Washington's Birthday and Lincolns Birthday (in quick succession), but Congress consolidated those holidays into one called "Presidents Day". By simply changing the name and making it a single holiday, we honor all US presidents (even those we don't like) instead of just a couple who had more than a footnote in world history. By making a similar change to the holiday of early October, we can help change a near-universal mindset. Many peoples, from many places, at many times came to the western hemisphere and many people from here went elsewhere. Convincing the world of that will require a first, little change, like the name of a holiday, followed by another little change, and on and on.
      Happy Explorers' Day.


      This section is for you, the audience. You are welcome to contribute to it. Submit your "stuff" to





      This Day in History:   ...October 30

      701 John VI begins his reign as Catholic Pope
      1270 8th & last crusade is launched
      1864 Helena, Montana's capital, founded
      1871 Phila Athletics beat Chicago for 1st Natl Assn baseball pennant
      1888 1st ballpoint pen patented
      1905 "October Manifesto" Russian Tsar Nicholas II grants civil liberties
      1918 Slovakia asks for creation of Czechoslovakian state
      1919 Baseball league presidents call for abolishment of the spitball
      1922 Mussolini forms cabinet in Italy
      1925 KUT-AM in Austin TX begins radio transmissions
      1930 Turkey & Greece sign a treaty of friendship
      1938 Orson Welles panics a nation with broadcast of "War of the Worlds"
      1939 USSR & Germany agree on partitioning Poland
      1941 USS Reuben James torpedoed by Germans, even though US is not in war
      1944 Anne Frank (of Diary fame) is deported from Auschwitz to Belsen
      1945 US government announces end of shoe rationing
      1948 20 die & 6,000 made ill by smog in Donora Pennsylvania
      1953 Dr Albert Schweitzer & Gen George C Marshall win Nobel Peace Prize
      1954 Defense Department announces elimination of all segregated regiments





      Special entry


      The Little People

      By Sally S. King

      There have been stories and tales passed down through generations here on Lookout Mountain about the Little People, a race of  folk who stand no taller than a toddler and legend has it that the Men wear hooded clothing woven from Animal fur and tiny acorn shoes on their feet and the ladies, silken dresses spun from Spider webs.

      The Native Americans called them the “Wee Ones” and they are said to live in the hollows of trees or beneath the many rock formations in this mountain, keeping warm fires and cooking their food in tiny clay pots.

      Legends say that the Wee Ones would fashion small arrows of flint from the flecks left by the Cherokee Warriors when they fashioned their weapons and would hunt small animals such as squirrel, rabbit and chipmunk with them and often, the hunters of the Cherokee Tribe would leave choice cuts of deer for them near their dwellings. According to legend, the Wee One’s were an ancient race who had walked these valley’s and mountains long before the Cherokee or other Tribes came into being. It is said that they were sometimes consulted in Council for advice and were highly revered
      There are tales of the Wee Ones being mighty in courage and legend has it that during the Indian Removal which began in or around 1832 in the Territory of Wills Town, a group of soldiers were trying to capture a small band of women and children who had hidden themselves away in a stand of rock above the valley on the side of Lookout Mountain.

      The soldiers came rushing up the side of the ridge toward the rocks shouting and taunting the group to come out, threatening that they would start shooting if they did not when suddenly, from every side, the men found themselves tangled in a finely woven and very stout string that wrapped itself around their feet and ankles like a spider’s web.  The soldiers began to cry out in panic as one of them spied the small people racing about the edge of the rocks and in the trees below them to tighten the snare.And then the string was lit afire by one of the Wee Ones and the boots and trouser legs of the soldiers began to flame and the whole of them ran away in terror from the rocks and down into the valley again.

      Stories continued about the Wee Ones up into the early Twentieth century around the Village of Mentone, Alabama on Lookout Mountain when an old Woman who lived in a stone cottage on the East Brow of the mountain began to notice the disappearance of her Tomatoes and Sweet Peppers from her summer vegetable garden and thought she had a problem with rabbits or coons.  She put up a small fence to keep them away.  But one morning as she was gazing out of her Kitchen window, having her morning coffee, she saw them. They climbed the chicken wire fence and lept down into the garden. 

      There were two of them, both men, dressed in little green cloaks. One of them carried a burlap sack and together, they helped themselves to a couple of her ripest tomatoes and a small bell pepper.She stood watching in astoundment as they climbed back over the fence and scurried off across the yard toward the Brow and an outcrop of rock, where they disappeared.

      The woman spent days watching for them again in the garden but did not see them. Then she began leaving different types of food on a small saucer from her pantry. For days, the saucer remained untouched but one morning as she was watching from her window, she saw them come out. This time, there was a woman and a child, dressed in little white smocks who hauled the food back into the crack of the rock one piece at a time until it was gone.

      Over the years, she became quite acquainted with them and like the legends she had heard as a child, they were an ancient people who had lived on this Mountain since time began. She claimed that many was the time she had shared afternoon tea with them and even had made small dresses  for  the Woman  and Girl.

      She did not tell a soul of her little Garden Residents until she was on her deathbed and was passing the Cottage on to her Daughter.  “Be careful of the Little People…don’t run over them with your automobile or let the cat out in the mornings…,” she’d whispered.

      But of course the daughter thought this was just the ramblings of a dying woman until she too saw them in her garden the next spring.

      Do the Wee Ones still live in the hollow trees and rock crevices on Lookout Mountain? You tell me.LV

      Sally S. King, aka Gloria Sitz, writes from the Mentone Inn.


      Possum Holler News

      I truly enjoyed the stay in Marquette for the AAPS Conference, then I drove 15 hours  -- some through very heavy and wet lake effect snow  -- to get home for Pat's and my first wedding anniversery.


      During the conference, I reaffirmed the male mantra: If at first you don't succeed, get new batteries.



      Other news: 

      Man's oldest friend: Scientists discover the grandad of modern ...

      Oldest Skeleton in Americas Found in Underwater Cave?

      Native burial grounds near Tisch Mills may include Viking ship



      Events: Send your organization's events to  oz@...


      Ancient Kentucke Historical Association


      Nov. 23rd, 2:30 PM  AKHA Meeting at Marilyn Michael’s home 

                              Lee Pennington update on trip to Welsh Caves in Ft. Payne, AL.; update on the        Ancient American Conference in Marquette, MI.


      New England Antiquities Research Association




      NEARA Fall Meeting Registration and Conference details are ready for download here (pdf) or here (WORD doc).   November 7-9, 2008.  Newport RI.  Register today!


      Last week's show :  Live from Marquette, MI AAPS Conference

      UPDATE 9/4/2008 Show: Path to Paradigm Project  The PtoP is a coordinated group effort to provide information & teaching materials to educators emphasizing the explorations & cultural exchanges that took place with America before Columbus. If you know any teachers of any grade or level, please encourage them to listen to this one. Follow the slides at http://www.frozentrail.org/manymod/Resources/preview.pdf or http://www.frozentrail.org/manymod/Resources/preview.ppt

      We did our first run-through of the overall project on Friday morning in Marquette. We identified some weaknesses and strengths and developed a plan of action to improve the product. The project participants are committed to delivering a useful product for educational institutions.

      Next week's show:   AAPS Re-Cap and announcing the Copper Trail Project

       Site of the week:  Guardian





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