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  • minnesotastan
    Interesting story this morning at NationalGeographic.com - Hundreds of prehistoric dogs found buried throughout the southwestern United States show that
    Message 1 of 4 , Apr 26, 2008
      Interesting story this morning at NationalGeographic.com -

      Hundreds of prehistoric dogs found buried throughout the southwestern
      United States show that canines played a key role in the spiritual
      beliefs of ancient Americans, new research suggests.

      Throughout the region, dogs have been found buried with jewelry,
      alongside adults and children, carefully stacked in groups, or in
      positions that relate to important structures, said Dody Fugate, an
      assistant curator at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture in Santa
      Fe, New Mexico.

      Fugate has conducted an ongoing survey of known dog burials in the
      area, and the findings suggest that the animals figured more
      prominently in their owners' lives than simply as pets, she said.

      "I'm suggesting that the dogs in the New World in the Southwest were
      used to escort people into the next world, and sometimes they were
      used in certain rituals in place of people," Fugate said.

      To conduct her research, Fugate collected data on known dog burials
      and urged her archaeologist colleagues to note when canine remains
      were found during excavations.

      "I have a database now of almost 700 dog burials, and a large number
      of them are either buried in groups in places of ritual or they're
      buried with individual human beings," she said.

      Many of the burials are concentrated in northwestern New Mexico and
      along the Arizona-New Mexico border, she said (see map).

      "All of that area was full of doggy people," she said.

      She reported her findings at the annual meeting of the Society for
      American Archaeology in Vancouver, Canada, last month.

      1,900 Years of Burials

      Fugate's database indicates that dog burials were most common between
      400 B.C. and A.D. 1100.

      "The earlier the [human] burial, the more likely you are to have dog
      in it," Fugate said.

      By the 1400s and 1500s the practice of burying people with dogs had
      stopped. Indeed, she noted, today's Pueblo and Navajo Indians believe
      it is improper to bury dogs.

      What the ancient dogs looked like is an open question, she said, but
      their remains suggest that they were far more diverse than was
      previously believed.

      Fugate has seen remains of ancient canines with floppy ears and
      pointed ears, long tails and curly tails, small builds and lanky ones.

      There were even white ones, found buried on the Arizona-Utah border,
      whose fur was used to weave ritual garb, she noted.

      "They were a motley crew," she summed up.

      Archaeologists' Best Friend?

      Susan Crockford is a zooarchaeologist at Canada's University of
      Victoria who has studied dog breeds in the Pacific Northwest.

      She agreed that dog remains have often been overlooked during
      archaeological excavations.

      Archaeologists tend to examine animal bones at excavation sites with
      an eye to what humans were eating, rather than what their
      relationships with dogs were like, she said.

      "Because dogs are very seldom come across in a way that suggests they
      were used for food, they tend to get dismissed as being not very
      significant … so they tend to not be reported in very much detail,"
      Crockford said.

      Crockford suggested that dogs' spiritual role was among their most
      important functions in the region, second perhaps to their value as
      hunting or herding companions.

      "Basically [ritual dog burial] is a pattern that's found around the
      world, and [Fugate]'s doing some really important work in documenting
      in detail the instances of that phenomena in her part of the world,"
      Crockford said.

      (See related photo: "Dog Mummies Found in Ancient Peru Pet Cemetery"
      [September 25, 2006].)

      For her part, Fugate said the data she is collecting will give dogs
      their day as key players in understanding the past.

      "Not thinking that dogs might have had a religious relationship [with
      people] as well means that you're leaving out a chunk of [ancient]
      religion," she said.

      "If [you make that assumption], you are losing enormous amounts of
      information about the ritual context and the mindset of these people."

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080423-dog-burials.html
    • Susan
      Stan, fascinating National Geographic article on the dog. It got me wondering if the dog was descended from the North American wolfe or if there were some
      Message 2 of 4 , Apr 26, 2008

        Stan,  fascinating National Geographic article on  the dog.  It got me wondering if the dog was descended from the North American wolfe or if there were some other diffusionist possibilites including and beyond the Americas.  In the article "The Dog as Deity, Ancestor and Royal Animal" it speaks of the dog dieties of Ancient Egypt.  And for a little more about sacred dogs in the ancient Americas, scroll down to 'Dancing With Wolves": http://asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/dogstory.htm

        Wecome to new member Falashaleott today.  I enjoyed your interesting web site, "Yam Suf"   listed in your Profile:    http://falashaleott.blogspot.com/  and which had a numbr of articles that certainly relate to a global Ancient Waterways site and very ancient human civilizations.   Thank you for signing on as a member, Falashaleott.

        Vince, I was not aware of a third Illinois earthquake this week until I read your post Friday. I saw last night on the news that resident in the Reno, Nevada region were being told to prepare for the possilibity of a very large earthquake after over a hundred tremors Saturday and the 4.7 quake Friday.  I recall from one of your links, Vince, reading your father's editorial  in relationship to Monks Mound, that he is a geophycist.   I've no doubt earthquake specialists are very busy these days.

        Susan

         --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "minnesotastan" <minnesotastan@...> wrote:

        >
        > Interesting story this morning at NationalGeographic.com -
        >
        > Hundreds of prehistoric dogs found buried throughout the southwestern
        > United States show that canines played a key role in the spiritual
        > beliefs of ancient Americans, new research suggests.
        >
        > Throughout the region, dogs have been found buried with jewelry,
        > alongside adults and children, carefully stacked in groups, or in
        > positions that relate to important structures, said Dody Fugate, an
        > assistant curator at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture in Santa
        > Fe, New Mexico.
        >
        > Fugate has conducted an ongoing survey of known dog burials in the
        > area, and the findings suggest that the animals figured more
        > prominently in their owners' lives than simply as pets, she said.
        >
        > "I'm suggesting that the dogs in the New World in the Southwest were
        > used to escort people into the next world, and sometimes they were
        > used in certain rituals in place of people," Fugate said.
        >
        > To conduct her research, Fugate collected data on known dog burials
        > and urged her archaeologist colleagues to note when canine remains
        > were found during excavations.
        >
        > "I have a database now of almost 700 dog burials, and a large number
        > of them are either buried in groups in places of ritual or they're
        > buried with individual human beings," she said.
        >
        > Many of the burials are concentrated in northwestern New Mexico and
        > along the Arizona-New Mexico border, she said (see map).
        >
        > "All of that area was full of doggy people," she said.
        >
        > She reported her findings at the annual meeting of the Society for
        > American Archaeology in Vancouver, Canada, last month.
        >
        > 1,900 Years of Burials
        >
        > Fugate's database indicates that dog burials were most common between
        > 400 B.C. and A.D. 1100.
        >
        > "The earlier the [human] burial, the more likely you are to have dog
        > in it," Fugate said.
        >
        > By the 1400s and 1500s the practice of burying people with dogs had
        > stopped. Indeed, she noted, today's Pueblo and Navajo Indians believe
        > it is improper to bury dogs.
        >
        > What the ancient dogs looked like is an open question, she said, but
        > their remains suggest that they were far more diverse than was
        > previously believed.
        >
        > Fugate has seen remains of ancient canines with floppy ears and
        > pointed ears, long tails and curly tails, small builds and lanky ones.
        >
        > There were even white ones, found buried on the Arizona-Utah border,
        > whose fur was used to weave ritual garb, she noted.
        >
        > "They were a motley crew," she summed up.
        >
        > Archaeologists' Best Friend?
        >
        > Susan Crockford is a zooarchaeologist at Canada's University of
        > Victoria who has studied dog breeds in the Pacific Northwest.
        >
        > She agreed that dog remains have often been overlooked during
        > archaeological excavations.
        >
        > Archaeologists tend to examine animal bones at excavation sites with
        > an eye to what humans were eating, rather than what their
        > relationships with dogs were like, she said.
        >
        > "Because dogs are very seldom come across in a way that suggests they
        > were used for food, they tend to get dismissed as being not very
        > significant … so they tend to not be reported in very much detail,"
        > Crockford said.
        >
        > Crockford suggested that dogs' spiritual role was among their most
        > important functions in the region, second perhaps to their value as
        > hunting or herding companions.
        >
        > "Basically [ritual dog burial] is a pattern that's found around the
        > world, and [Fugate]'s doing some really important work in documenting
        > in detail the instances of that phenomena in her part of the world,"
        > Crockford said.
        >
        > (See related photo: "Dog Mummies Found in Ancient Peru Pet Cemetery"
        > [September 25, 2006].)
        >
        > For her part, Fugate said the data she is collecting will give dogs
        > their day as key players in understanding the past.
        >
        > "Not thinking that dogs might have had a religious relationship [with
        > people] as well means that you're leaving out a chunk of [ancient]
        > religion," she said.
        >
        > "If [you make that assumption], you are losing enormous amounts of
        > information about the ritual context and the mindset of these people."
        >
        > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080423-dog-burials.html
        >

      • falashaleott
        ... southwestern ... between ... believe ... ones. ... they ... documenting ... [with ... people. ... burials.html ... This is my first post and I am not sure
        Message 3 of 4 , Apr 27, 2008
          --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "minnesotastan"
          <minnesotastan@...> wrote:
          >
          > Interesting story this morning at NationalGeographic.com -
          >
          > Hundreds of prehistoric dogs found buried throughout the
          southwestern
          > United States show that canines played a key role in the spiritual
          > beliefs of ancient Americans, new research suggests.
          >
          > Throughout the region, dogs have been found buried with jewelry,
          > alongside adults and children, carefully stacked in groups, or in
          > positions that relate to important structures, said Dody Fugate, an
          > assistant curator at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture in Santa
          > Fe, New Mexico.
          >
          > Fugate has conducted an ongoing survey of known dog burials in the
          > area, and the findings suggest that the animals figured more
          > prominently in their owners' lives than simply as pets, she said.
          >
          > "I'm suggesting that the dogs in the New World in the Southwest were
          > used to escort people into the next world, and sometimes they were
          > used in certain rituals in place of people," Fugate said.
          >
          > To conduct her research, Fugate collected data on known dog burials
          > and urged her archaeologist colleagues to note when canine remains
          > were found during excavations.
          >
          > "I have a database now of almost 700 dog burials, and a large number
          > of them are either buried in groups in places of ritual or they're
          > buried with individual human beings," she said.
          >
          > Many of the burials are concentrated in northwestern New Mexico and
          > along the Arizona-New Mexico border, she said (see map).
          >
          > "All of that area was full of doggy people," she said.
          >
          > She reported her findings at the annual meeting of the Society for
          > American Archaeology in Vancouver, Canada, last month.
          >
          > 1,900 Years of Burials
          >
          > Fugate's database indicates that dog burials were most common
          between
          > 400 B.C. and A.D. 1100.
          >
          > "The earlier the [human] burial, the more likely you are to have dog
          > in it," Fugate said.
          >
          > By the 1400s and 1500s the practice of burying people with dogs had
          > stopped. Indeed, she noted, today's Pueblo and Navajo Indians
          believe
          > it is improper to bury dogs.
          >
          > What the ancient dogs looked like is an open question, she said, but
          > their remains suggest that they were far more diverse than was
          > previously believed.
          >
          > Fugate has seen remains of ancient canines with floppy ears and
          > pointed ears, long tails and curly tails, small builds and lanky
          ones.
          >
          > There were even white ones, found buried on the Arizona-Utah border,
          > whose fur was used to weave ritual garb, she noted.
          >
          > "They were a motley crew," she summed up.
          >
          > Archaeologists' Best Friend?
          >
          > Susan Crockford is a zooarchaeologist at Canada's University of
          > Victoria who has studied dog breeds in the Pacific Northwest.
          >
          > She agreed that dog remains have often been overlooked during
          > archaeological excavations.
          >
          > Archaeologists tend to examine animal bones at excavation sites with
          > an eye to what humans were eating, rather than what their
          > relationships with dogs were like, she said.
          >
          > "Because dogs are very seldom come across in a way that suggests
          they
          > were used for food, they tend to get dismissed as being not very
          > significant … so they tend to not be reported in very much detail,"
          > Crockford said.
          >
          > Crockford suggested that dogs' spiritual role was among their most
          > important functions in the region, second perhaps to their value as
          > hunting or herding companions.
          >
          > "Basically [ritual dog burial] is a pattern that's found around the
          > world, and [Fugate]'s doing some really important work in
          documenting
          > in detail the instances of that phenomena in her part of the world,"
          > Crockford said.
          >
          > (See related photo: "Dog Mummies Found in Ancient Peru Pet Cemetery"
          > [September 25, 2006].)
          >
          > For her part, Fugate said the data she is collecting will give dogs
          > their day as key players in understanding the past.
          >
          > "Not thinking that dogs might have had a religious relationship
          [with
          > people] as well means that you're leaving out a chunk of [ancient]
          > religion," she said.
          >
          > "If [you make that assumption], you are losing enormous amounts of
          > information about the ritual context and the mindset of these
          people."
          >
          > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080423-dog-
          burials.html
          >
          This is my first post and I am not sure if I am doing it right. Here
          goes;
          There are 2 reservations (native American) on the island where I
          live. On these reservations, there is no dog pound or spaying and
          neutering. The dogs run in packs. Occasionally, they do a "dog sweep"
          and catch as many as they can. These dogs are then euthenized. My
          daughter brought one of these dogs home and I have watched it grow
          from a puppy. It is interesting to see what attributes these "rez
          dogs" have that make them able to survive. This dog's favorite thing
          to do is to hide behind a corner(crouching low but not laying down)
          and wait for someone to walk by. She then springs out and grabs the
          victims heels or achilles tendons. It's her favorite game. When she
          jumps she also does an elaborate twisting motion. This is probably a
          remnant of those dogs that have been able to escape the dog catchers
          noose. She also has a very small head in porportion to the rest of
          her body. But what is really amazing to me is that she looks exactly
          like the stray dogs I used to see in the Israeli desert. Is this a
          coincidence or do evolutionary pressures create similar products?
        • Susan
          Falashaleott and All here, As one who decades ago ruptured an Achilles tendon in a skiing accident, I cringed thinking of Falashaleott s pup enjoying its
          Message 4 of 4 , Apr 27, 2008

            Falashaleott and All here,

            As one who decades ago ruptured an Achilles tendon in a skiing accident, I cringed thinking of Falashaleott's  pup enjoying its favorite game with my tendons and heels :)

            Others here may have  more to say re: Falashaleott's inquiry about natural selection but I did find an interesting web site on Israeli dogs with a descendency similar to what you were referring to. There is actually a Canaan Dog Home Page and Israel Canaan Dog Club of America, Inc. website-

            see http://www.itb.it/canaan/icdca/ .

            The site includes  a few paragraphs on selection by way of  dog breeders as well as wild dogs evolving via  natural selection...."only the strongest, most fit and most intelligent specimens survived the demanding conditions of the harsh Israeli environment. "

            All here,  maybe some of our 'Lost Tribes of Israel to America" diffusionist  friends might look for ancient Middle Eastern-N. American DNA links in connection with this wild Caanan dog & some of the free spirited dogs one finds on reservations.  In the 1940's and 50's in my small Illinois town, dogs and cats  ran loose in every neighborhood, no collars, no laws yet for vaccinating,  and many were considered wild 'mutts'.  Now, in my C. Wisconsin town, only wild 'sewer cats' have survived and are adept at eluding  police and animal catchers.

            Perhaps  the various photos from the Israel Canaan Dog Club of America resemble the ones you are referring to.  Thank you for posting ..... from whereever  your island and ancient waterway is, to each of ours.

            Susan

            --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "falashaleott" <falashaleott@...> wrote:
            >
            > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "minnesotastan"
            > minnesotastan@ wrote:
            > >
            > > Interesting story this morning at NationalGeographic.com -
            > >
            > > Hundreds of prehistoric dogs found buried throughout the
            > southwestern
            > > United States show that canines played a key role in the spiritual
            > > beliefs of ancient Americans, new research suggests.
            > >
            > > Throughout the region, dogs have been found buried with jewelry,
            > > alongside adults and children, carefully stacked in groups, or in
            > > positions that relate to important structures, said Dody Fugate, an
            > > assistant curator at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture in Santa
            > > Fe, New Mexico.
            > >
            > > Fugate has conducted an ongoing survey of known dog burials in the
            > > area, and the findings suggest that the animals figured more
            > > prominently in their owners' lives than simply as pets, she said.
            > >
            > > "I'm suggesting that the dogs in the New World in the Southwest were
            > > used to escort people into the next world, and sometimes they were
            > > used in certain rituals in place of people," Fugate said.
            > >
            > > To conduct her research, Fugate collected data on known dog burials
            > > and urged her archaeologist colleagues to note when canine remains
            > > were found during excavations.
            > >
            > > "I have a database now of almost 700 dog burials, and a large number
            > > of them are either buried in groups in places of ritual or they're
            > > buried with individual human beings," she said.
            > >
            > > Many of the burials are concentrated in northwestern New Mexico and
            > > along the Arizona-New Mexico border, she said (see map).
            > >
            > > "All of that area was full of doggy people," she said.
            > >
            > > She reported her findings at the annual meeting of the Society for
            > > American Archaeology in Vancouver, Canada, last month.
            > >
            > > 1,900 Years of Burials
            > >
            > > Fugate's database indicates that dog burials were most common
            > between
            > > 400 B.C. and A.D. 1100.
            > >
            > > "The earlier the [human] burial, the more likely you are to have dog
            > > in it," Fugate said.
            > >
            > > By the 1400s and 1500s the practice of burying people with dogs had
            > > stopped. Indeed, she noted, today's Pueblo and Navajo Indians
            > believe
            > > it is improper to bury dogs.
            > >
            > > What the ancient dogs looked like is an open question, she said, but
            > > their remains suggest that they were far more diverse than was
            > > previously believed.
            > >
            > > Fugate has seen remains of ancient canines with floppy ears and
            > > pointed ears, long tails and curly tails, small builds and lanky
            > ones.
            > >
            > > There were even white ones, found buried on the Arizona-Utah border,
            > > whose fur was used to weave ritual garb, she noted.
            > >
            > > "They were a motley crew," she summed up.
            > >
            > > Archaeologists' Best Friend?
            > >
            > > Susan Crockford is a zooarchaeologist at Canada's University of
            > > Victoria who has studied dog breeds in the Pacific Northwest.
            > >
            > > She agreed that dog remains have often been overlooked during
            > > archaeological excavations.
            > >
            > > Archaeologists tend to examine animal bones at excavation sites with
            > > an eye to what humans were eating, rather than what their
            > > relationships with dogs were like, she said.
            > >
            > > "Because dogs are very seldom come across in a way that suggests
            > they
            > > were used for food, they tend to get dismissed as being not very
            > > significant … so they tend to not be reported in very much detail,"
            > > Crockford said.
            > >
            > > Crockford suggested that dogs' spiritual role was among their most
            > > important functions in the region, second perhaps to their value as
            > > hunting or herding companions.
            > >
            > > "Basically [ritual dog burial] is a pattern that's found around the
            > > world, and [Fugate]'s doing some really important work in
            > documenting
            > > in detail the instances of that phenomena in her part of the world,"
            > > Crockford said.
            > >
            > > (See related photo: "Dog Mummies Found in Ancient Peru Pet Cemetery"
            > > [September 25, 2006].)
            > >
            > > For her part, Fugate said the data she is collecting will give dogs
            > > their day as key players in understanding the past.
            > >
            > > "Not thinking that dogs might have had a religious relationship
            > [with
            > > people] as well means that you're leaving out a chunk of [ancient]
            > > religion," she said.
            > >
            > > "If [you make that assumption], you are losing enormous amounts of
            > > information about the ritual context and the mindset of these
            > people."
            > >
            > > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080423-dog-
            > burials.html
            > >
            > This is my first post and I am not sure if I am doing it right. Here
            > goes;
            > There are 2 reservations (native American) on the island where I
            > live. On these reservations, there is no dog pound or spaying and
            > neutering. The dogs run in packs. Occasionally, they do a "dog sweep"
            > and catch as many as they can. These dogs are then euthenized. My
            > daughter brought one of these dogs home and I have watched it grow
            > from a puppy. It is interesting to see what attributes these "rez
            > dogs" have that make them able to survive. This dog's favorite thing
            > to do is to hide behind a corner(crouching low but not laying down)
            > and wait for someone to walk by. She then springs out and grabs the
            > victims heels or achilles tendons. It's her favorite game. When she
            > jumps she also does an elaborate twisting motion. This is probably a
            > remnant of those dogs that have been able to escape the dog catchers
            > noose. She also has a very small head in porportion to the rest of
            > her body. But what is really amazing to me is that she looks exactly
            > like the stray dogs I used to see in the Israeli desert. Is this a
            > coincidence or do evolutionary pressures create similar products?
            >

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