Jonathan Carver, Totagotic River writings? Mystical Superior-51st state
- Herb and All,
I just finished reading Herb Wagner's well-researched article from
#75 issue of Ancient American Magazine (Originally published in
Wisconsin Outdoor Journal). My auto mechanic saw the magazine on the
back window and I need to get back my only copy and read it again
several times before commenting more on the excellent article. What a
breathtaking field trip or magnificant mini meeting it would be in
that part of the country! Hope you can smell future campfire stew
and homemade frycakes wafting into your imagination, Herb, hint hint..
Looks like you have done extensive work on Jonathan Carver. Steve
Hilgren from the Ancient Vikings group, other researchers, and I have
done some research on Carver...a necessity for studying ancient
waterways, esp. Missippian and Great Lakes.
I sent the following Journals of Carver link to this group a couple
of years ago in regard to St. Anthony Falls-Mississippi River, later
Minneapolis-St. Paul , Carver's Cave on Mound St. in St. Paul, etc.
Now would like to know web sites or references to Carver's possible
exploration w/maps of the Totogatic (Totagatic) River your web site
refers to. At the end of this message I shall also enclose Herb's
web page...please click around to his many beautiful photos,
sometimes very witty-funny comments (bottom of Totagotic River page),
and inspiring thoughts. Especially if any of you are ever headed in
the region of that part of the country. I week visiting the area
might not even cover much of it.
Journals of Carver, mid 1700's):
There were no results in a Search of Totagotic/Totogatic. Is there an
older name? Has it changed course/depth since then?.
I lived many years in Ironwood, frequented Ashland-Bayfield in my
teens, resided in Duluth-Superior a short time but long before an
interest in ancient history, geography/geology, diffusionist
possibilities. Was an avid fly fisherman during the 60's but not
west of the Bad River reservation.
A long obsession with Upper Peninsula of Michigan copper I'd
associated with Isle Royale, Keweenaw, Ontanogan Counties, and
northern coastal Lake Superior in Canada. Herb's research and article
was so convincing I will always include Wisconsin, even perhaps NE
As an aside, through the years, for travel money and to pay back
people who lodged/fed me in travels up north, I had 1000 bronze-
colored bumper stickers made up with a logo of Isle Royale & the UP,
Lake Superior, a long band of aboriginal peoples across the bottom,
and inscription: "Superior-51st State-Where the Bronze Age Began".
During the 1960's, my dad was president of the UP Tourist
association. Because of a growing dissatisfaction of many perceiving
their areas as not receiving much tourism money from their state
capitals (Lansing and Madison), a large group of business leaders
lobbied together for several years. They represented not only most
of Upper Michigan but a long segment of Northern Wisconsin, from
Bayfield-Ashland and south toward Minocqua, WI. The movement was to
come together to form a new state called Superior. Their bright blue
bumper stickers, "Superior-51st State" are collector's items.
Forty years later, as a post-motrum tribute to these fellows and my
father--and to advertise the ancient, global Copper Culture trade via
intercontinental waters, I had 1000 bronze-colored commemorative
bumper stickers made-"Superior, 51st State", but with the addition
of, "Where the Bronze Age Began". Herb, the 51st State of Superior
coincidently includes the entire Wisconsin Copper Country areas and
counties you suggest in your article.
Perhaps all of us associated with ancient copper culture trade,
especially aboriginal peoples long ago removed from that great, still-
wilderness territory. Regardless of where we reside now, and the
lobbying is long past, perhaps in our eplorations along ancient
global waterways there, we can include ourselves as residing in
the great and ancient realm, 51st state called "Superior".
M. Susan English