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  • Rick Osmon
    Hello Loopers!! Here s your copy of the e~newsletter for the week of 22 October 2007 In this issue: This Week s Show: Exciting news about the KENSINGTON RUNE
    Message 1 of 1 , Oct 23, 2007
      Hello Loopers!!
      Here's your copy of the e~newsletter for the week of 22 October 2007
      In this issue:
      This Week's Show Exciting news about the KENSINGTON RUNE STONE!!     
      Op/Ed #4Steve Garcia responds to Randy Koppang's Coneheads, (cont.)
      Other news: Quite a few for "off-season"
      Last week's show: The Antiquarian Society Founder, Stuart Mason (NOT!!)
      NEW FEATURE!!  Site of the week
      Upcoming Shows
      This Week's Show  Exciting news about the KENSINGTON RUNE STONE!!  
      Scott Wolter has recieved word of some long lost research materials on the KRS!! He, David Brody, and the discoverer will discuss the importance of this material.
      The previous investigator, Dr. Rodney Beecher Harvey, collected extensive research materials surrounding KRS. He spent some twenty years on the subject and the entire collection, some in very delicate and threatened condition, has been relocated. Dr. harvey was a plant physiologist and his findings regarding the "leeching" of the tree roots are of vast importance to the question of authenticity. Additionally, he made micrographs of each character on the stone, substantiating that the characters are as they appeared at the time he photographed them.
      What does this all mean? Tune in this Thursday at 9 PM Eastern, 8 Central to hear Scott, David, and Jennifer explain.
      Op/Ed #4Steve Garcia responds to Randy Koppang's Coneheads (cont.) (this addition recieved by email and used with permission)
      What I did NOT say about Koppang's article (in Ancient Waterways Society , ed.), and was actually the trigger for me writing, was that, with all the good he did by compiling all those sources, he then diverted from solid research (IMO) and digressed over to an almost exclusively "sold" presentation, arguing only from his one position, before he had completely finished presenting his arguments.  He should have shown (again IMO, because he seems to have the info at his disposal) more strongly that the likelihood of the diffusion was impossible (which I think is true, too).  Yes, he stated that, but then he takes off on it prematurely. like it had really been established by his prior arguments.  If he thought that, I would disagree; it was not established adequately - even though he is right, IMO.

      Before he was done, he sounded like a New Ager.  I am an old New Ager, and I know that that approach loses.  He could take a lesson from Michael Cremo.  Solid work and solid, no quantum leap, logic and conclusions are what will make all "our" work worthwhile and win in the end.  The world simply is NOT the way science and history now present it; it should not be allowed to continue to exist and distort our true history and our true reality.

      Still, I do not want to rain on Koppang's parade.  I learned a LOT from his article, and am glad to have read it.  But some who might see value in it will be completely alienated by his New Age references.  By that, I mean academic types. 

      I am convinced that the "New Scientists", and "New Historians", otherwise known as alternative researchers - in time - will not need academic types.  The academics have their Royal Society and their AAAS.  The Royal Society, at least, was begun with the intent of requiring empirical proof of all 'science' presented.  Within a generation, however, it swerved toward internecine politics, where it resides to this day, IMHO.  The AAAS is a good old boy network, an exclusionary club.

      New Scientists need to get to the roots of the early Royal Society.  Archaeology, history and science are now entrenched paradigm-toeing establishments, and all three fields are based on past misperceptions and dead ends - that they are simply too blindered to get out of, not without help, at least.  New Scientists, however, do need to have standards of their/our own, just as the Royal Society started out with.  Why did the Royal Society see the need for empirical proof?  To battle the Church, which used dogma fundamentally, and persuasion when necessary.  The RS needed to establish itself with different principles.

      In that same manner, New Scientists need to also establish itself with different principles.  We all are convinced by the persuasion and presentations of our New Scientist researchers, because we can agree with their points about the inadequacies in establishment history and science and archaeology.  In other words, the establishment has only convinced us that there is something more out there than the Nova side of things and the general pap-for-the-masses shows on The History Channel, with their endless repetition of establishment dogmas.  We all know that the anomalous bits out there have to be included in scientific theories, not swept under the carpet.  If 'Science' and 'History' won't address those gaps, we (or our researchers) will. 

      But in the process of doing so, standards much, much higher than Eric Von Daniken and Charles Berlitz used have to be applied.  David Hatcher Childress, for all his strengths, follows more along the lines of Von Daniken and Berlitz, and that is okay for attracting people to our side.  But there has to be deeper, more exacting scholarship than David does (his lack of indexes and, sometimes, footnotes, for example, to his published books drives me crazy, and he knows it).  People have to be able to find passages and sources. 

      But that is just part of it.

      New Scientists and New Historians also need to present for more than just the occasional dabbler.  There need to be standards, maybe even peer review - though peer review is so abused in Science as to be defacto book burning.  A search, at least some thought, needs to be done to find a way of filtering out the silliness from the serious, the gullible from the open minded.  Koppang has a mix of silliness and seriousness; the silliness drags down the seriousness, making the article ripe for book burning.

      I brought up to David the need for an Alternative Researcher Royal Society, and I got no response from him, really.  I don't have any status as a researcher, but I am quite well read and hold up with researchers quite well at David's conferences.  (I can contribute points of view and devil's advocacy, but am not capable of focusing enough to be a researcher in my own right.  I envy those who can do that, but am not willing to give up my jack-of-all-trades life to focus on one area.  If I didn't have to pay bills, it might be different; then I could have 4 or 5 projects going at one time.  But I do have another life, and I have to work within my reality.)

      So, I read articles and books and can discern bull**** from solid work, sometimes mixed all together in one work.  Koppang is a mixture, with some real value and some real fluff.  All I myself do is opine.  At least he is out there finding things out and bringing them to fruition, for all of us to opine about.  So, I am down the pecking order from him.  But it doesn't stop me from commenting, does it?  LOL

      I'll respond to Steve's comments in next week's edition.
      And you can, too!! All op/ed and letters to the editor will be published (editorial rights reserved for language -- see above)
      Send submissions to oz@...
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      THE PUZZLE OF THE NEWPORT TOWER: Assembling the Pieces

      The First Symposium


      10:00A.M.- 5:00 P.M. SATURDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2007



      76 Bellevue Avenue, Newport Rhode Island 02840


      Since space is limited, please phone Martha Tucker at (401)847-9755 for reservations;

      you may order a box lunch at the same time


      The symposium is free; box lunches will be available for $9.50,

      with a choice of Vegetable Wrap; and Turkey & Prosciutto, Ham & Swiss, and Tuna Salad sandwiches

      Many restaurants are nearby




      10:00 - 10:15 a.m.             WELCOME AND INTRODUCTION 

                                          Jan Barstad, President,Chronognostic Research Foundation, Tempe, AZ


      10:15 - 11.00               ARCHITECTURE & CONSTRUCTION


                                          Suzanne Carlson, Preservation Architect, NEARA


      11:15 - 11.45               ARCHAEOASTRONOMY OF THE NEWPORT TOWER

                                          Professor William Penhallow, Charlestown, R.I.


      11:45 - 12:00 p.m.            WHITTALLÂ’S 20 POINTS: DVD of  a Presentation at Orkney Science Festival, 1997, by James P. Whittall Jr., Early Sites Research Society


      12:00-1:30                   LUNCH


      1:30 - 2:00                   DATING THE MORTAR

                                          Rob Carter, Physicist


      2:00 - 2:45                   THE NEWPORT TOWER: MM&O

                                          Jan Barstad


      2.45 - 3.30                   NEW LIGHT ON THE OLD PUZZLE

                                          Jim Egan, Professional Photography & Digital, Providence, RI, NEARA


      3:30 - 4:00                   SEARCHING FOR PROTOTYPES

                                          Suzanne Carlson


      4:00 - 5:00                   PANEL and OPEN DISCUSSION



      Last week's show: The Antiquarian Society Founder, Stuart Mason



       Stuart Mason was the scheduled guest, but due to confusion over time zones, he didn't make the interview. We'll catch up with Stuart at a later date. Stuart is the founder of The Antiquarian Society. The hour consisted of my and William's ad lib, mostly about the AAAPF / THOR conference, pyramid theories, Wm's study of Ky sundials, and how poorly Skype performed for your host.
      NEW FEATURE!!  Site of the week
      I decided that one of the best ways to share my experiences in this community is to share with the listeners some of the web sites that have really made me think.
      Here's one, put up by David Campbell, that has photos that really intrigue me.
      Upcoming Shows
      November 4th: TBA
      November 8th: Al Cornette discusses petroglyphs of Kentucky's Red River Gorge and his book on the subject, The Sandstone Chronicles, Rock Art of the Red River Gorge, an Appalachian Journey
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