Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Indian Mound Park, St. Paul MN
- Dear Susan English and friends;
Thank you for your thoughtful response. I was floored when I read it and the situation with Mounds Park seems so fitting and similar to how I feel about the current fiasco with Monks Mound. I am thankful to Rick Osmon for giving me the chance to get the world out about the situation.
I wanted also to follow up on William Smiths excellent questions about the tablets and situation of the mounds ownership. I do look forward to discussing the tablets in more detail at the meeting. I misspoke when I said the mounds were owned by the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency (according to the UNESCO website located here:
. They are in fact owned by the state of Illinois, and only managed and administered by the IHPA. That is much different than ownership, in fact though even if they were owned outright by a person or agency it would be illegal to excavate the mounds with backhoes because of the destruction of the archaeological record.
The application of a backhoe to the central feature of a World Heritage site is a violation of the law in the most public and blatant way. Site management have no justification for doing this under the "emergency repair"; There was no emergency with rain water threatening to rip open the mound as site management contend.
Tomorrow morning (8:30-8:45) is a presentation at Southern Illinois University Carbondale by site management to the professional community on this issue for the annual IAS conference. I will attend that and report back on the proceedings of that.
Also, if you want to check out Pete Bostroms account of the situation, it seems to have no new information, but is interesting.
Thanks again for your kind thoughts and shared concerns;
Susan <beldingenglish@...> wrote:Ancient Waterways friends,
Those following Vince Barrow's preservation efforts and who heard
his radio interview last night by Rick Osmon, will understand the
following passage in the book, "St. Mudd" by author Steve Thayer
about Grover Mudd. This refers to the nearly total annhilition that
has been taking place taken place at "Mounds Park" located in the
same area as the very ancient Carver Cave in what we now call St.
"Grover Mudd... staggered across Plum Street and Cherry Street and
into Indian Mound Park... Before him stood the largest mound in the
park. Tears streamed down his face with the rain.... The ghostly
mound loomed before him like a mountain. Children used it as a place
to play. A swath of mud rolled over the top. Grover stopped on the
grave and dropped.
Grover wormed his way to the top of the mound and rested there on all
fours like a wounded animal... He fell backward and tumbled down the
mound, and face down at the bottom he beat his fist into the mud....
A torrent of rain swept over the park. And Grover Mudd cried himself
sick at the foot of the ancient Indian graves."
From: (http://www.daytonsb luff.org/ old/AShortHistor yofMoundsPark. html)
-this is an area that 'Paleo-indian' followed south of the falls
(later called "St. Anthony's Falls" at the present St. Paul,
Minnesota) at least 12,000 years ago is Indian Mounds Park with
numerous types of burials, including Hopewellian of 2000 years ago
and 'included remnants of one of mankind's earliest organized
civilizations, a civilization that prospered while there were still
pharaohs in Egypt and great dynasties in China':
http://www.stpaul. gov/depts/ parks/userguide/ indianmounds. html
....human remains and grave offerings were found..."including
perforated bear teeth, copper ornaments, and a piece of hammered
sheet copper, as well as the usual number of projectile points. Among
the more startling discoveries was a skull covered with red clay
producing the image of the original face. Nothing similar to
this "death mask" had ever been found by archaeologists in mounds or
ancient graves. The mask was removed intact during that
excavation.. ..The log tombs, hammered sheet copper and especially the
clay death mask belong to the Hopewellian period."
Thanks, Vince, Rick, all of you here and the other associations and
sites many of you are affiliated with in your efforts and
involvements. This work each does, and oftentimes we do together
might truly be your/our real life's work...."vocation" -a calling,
summons, spiritual call to service, a definition w/older roots
associations the origin more as being a 'voice'....as many of you do
I am going to throw a couple of links again that I may have sent
before on Carvers Cave and an old photo or drawing of the giant St.
Anthony's Falls which no longer exists in downtown St. Paul. Just to
show how, in a very, very short period natural ecological sites that
have been around for millions of years, and ancient human
inhabitation/ layers of various burial cultures which existed for
countless millennia have been and are still being desecrated or
obliterated for modern development in a matter of decades, even
months. All of this random moderization is taking us farther from our
transcontinental, global interconnections with each other and our
true human roots.
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