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Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: clovis not first article

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  • Ted Sojka
    Thanks Susan, and I do get Robin s e mails. It was a Larry Furo link from that site that Steve was commenting on in this exchange.
    Message 1 of 9 , Jun 9, 2013
      Thanks Susan, and I do get Robin's e mails.  It was a Larry Furo link from that site that Steve was commenting on in this exchange.  
      On Jun 9, 2013, at 1:55 AM, Susan wrote:


      Steve (and Ted), 

      Ancient Waterways Society member Robin Mueller Hammer from Minnesota started a new YahooGroup last year about this time called The Old Copper Complex and Ancient Waterways America.  You fellows must have missed the message Robin sent to this group at that time with  information about the group which has grown quickly and Robin is doing an excellent job administering the site.   Vince Barrows and a number of members of our group here post there regularly. Here is Robin's post:  

      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "bigalemc2" wrote:
      > Ted -
      > I am confused. What is the connection to the Old Copper Complex?
      > Also, the article did not anywhere that I saw acknowledge several
      > things:
      > 1. The Monte Verde site in Chile, the one that in 1997 broke the back of
      > the Clovis First paradigm.
      > 2. The work of Dennis Stanford (especially on the finds on the Delmarva
      > Peninsula) showing that people were here as long ago as 22,000 years
      > ago. And that they came from EUROPE. 14,000 years ago is like WAY
      > late.
      > 3. The fact that like 90% of Clovis sites are east of the Mississippi,
      > with pretty good density.
      > 4. There is a FIFTH haplotype (X), which came from they don't know
      > where. This shows up in the mtDNA of the Iroquois and other NE Indian
      > groups.
      > I thought the article was Canadian-centric and fairly ill-informed. The
      > comments were even worse - very ignorant for the most part. I ca never
      > figure out why people who don't know jack about a subject feel the need
      > to impose their ignorance upon anyone else.
      > Steve
      > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Ted Sojka wrote:
      > >
      > > Another good site sent to me by Larry Furo on the Old Copper Complex
      > > site.
      > >
      > >
      > http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/07/12/sci-paisley-caves-clo\
      > vis.html
      > >
      > > this from CBC news about a point found in Oregon along with older DNA
      > > evidence.
      > > ted
      > >

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