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  • Vincent Barrows
    A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of; our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime
    Message 1 of 7 , May 1, 2012
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      A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of; our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime members can respond to prior messages. Blogs are much more difficult to respond to anything but the latest comment. Often blog messages are less formal than forum letters. On sending in money,Yahoo is FREE, this is not the purpose of AWS either. I do hope Susan and MinnesotaStan do choose to "stick around".


      From: charles bruns <charbruns@...>;
      To: Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...>;
      Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board
      Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 3:24:22 AM

      I agree with you.  chb

      From: Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...>
      To: charbruns@...; minnesotasta@...; beldingenglish@...
      Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:37 PM
      Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board


      Ancient waterways leaders
      I hope that we do not forget our groups purpose of exploring the ancient cultural connections that populated the world;  and these material, botanical, linguistic, DNA, and legendary connections information fuel our curiosity and drive us to continue research.
      I am opposed to creating another blog to discuss the same topics as our group has.  Primarially because yahoo is not formatted for blogs. Also our group has the same searchable content as blogs.
      Vince


      ------------------------------
      On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 8:35 PM EDT Susan English wrote:

      >Stan, Steve Garcia and many here who have expressed interest in making a major change in format in behalf of this group. I am glad this discussion has come up. As a co-founder and co-host, here is my input:
      >
      >I believe we should keep open the idea of who will become 'host', if that role would entail the ability to delete all of the posts, files, photos, and the group.  I'd hope the new host will continue with Stan's humility, lack of ego-centrism, candor in dealing with things of significance within this association.  As a retired educator, I have no doubt Stan inspired thousands of fine doctors as he has this group and thousands of members of his award-winning TYWKIYDBI blog.
      >
      >No one, of course, owns the title.  During the 1980's I am likely the first person who used the term Ancient Waterways Society and a wooden sign on the back window of my vehicles to inspire conversation.  i infrequently also used the term Diffusionists Without Borders after my signature, both to make points with correspondents or  groups:  that waterways worldwide were (and in some ways still are) the roadways that interconnected peoples within and between continents .... long before we were divided, often isolated by tribe, nation, borders.
      >
      >My 'politics' within all of this is, contrary to common belief is the belief that at the roots of all of us, that we were (and are) peaceful, loving, intelligent peoples...stronger and more creative when in respect of each other and reverent of Nature, than when greedy and destructive toward each other and our world.  The latter of which History provides plenty of evidence for.  I look for and am finding alternative evidence for  the opposite, often from some of you here.  Most important, is  the where, when and what that took place in all of these circumstances that reversed those once more intelligent and wise ways of living. 
      >
      >In whatever folks have for a group such as this, I believe people of diverse interests and backgrounds today -- via the global waterways of our ancient ancestors -- may find common ground and freedom of access  through "international waters", which we try to allow here.  During the 1980's as a graduate student in ancient world Socio-cultural studies (w/Peace Studies minor) and,  as a U. S. resident, I was determined  to go beyond the confines of nation implied by terms as "Ancient American" or "PreColumbian", both of which made up the focus of most of my affiliations and educational background.  The Ancient Waterways Society that has become this group includes folks whose interests span cultural, international,  educational backgrounds, diverse beliefs, and ways of living.
      >
      >I too have encouraged members' own personal use of the term Ancient Waterways Society with hope that a mutually-enhancing focus on waterways and peoples be kept inclusively international, inter-tribal, respectful, and inclusive of teachings of wisdomkeepers as well as the Sciences,  which have withstood the tests of time or scrutiny of measure.
      >
      >This group and your mutual contributions at a group such as this seems to be an experiment as well a dream come true for me.  Changing the format may encourage the free exchange of even more people, and I do hope this group continues to expand beyond the boundaries that stifle the freedoms in format and thoughtful expression of many other associations.
      >
      >My gratitude to Pam Giese, now living in the United Kingdom, for her input starting an internet Ancient Waterways Society years ago when I was even less computer adept.  And always toward Stan --- a stranger when I met him --- for setting up and continuing to host this fine Ancient Waterways Society via YahooGroups.  I respect his input into this group's guidelines and our resulting inclusive and diversely global scope.  And that  there has been no single moderator or dominating force here; instead,  many dozens of folks moderating and helping to maintain the integrity of this association, as a whole.  There are sound ideas presented here that I have not run across anywhere, hence the reason for many scientists, authors, professionals and others who do not join internet groups yet check Posts at this site from time to time. I appreciate that many of you have been so inspired, yourselves, that you have become members.
      >
      >In closing, again, though a co-founder here, I only have an IPad, it is difficult to do anything other than look up links, follow posts and do some unformatted correspondence.  I too hope this group remains mutually moderating, and that if there are to be hosts and co-hosts, that they be representative of the geographical, cultural, and other diversities within the group.  I too have long encouraged members' personal use of the term Ancient Waterways Society with hopes that focus on waterways and peoples be kept inclusively global, mutually enhancing, respectful, and leaning heavily toward a scientific base.
      >
      >Susan English
      >
      >Sent from my iPad
      >
      >On Apr 29, 2012, at 2:35 PM, minnesotastan@... wrote:
      >
      > "I've always wondered why this isn't set up as a blog or a forum.
      >
      > Is there any particular reason? It seems like either would be easier
      > and more powerful. A blog would be better than a forum, IMHO.
      >
      > A blog can be set up so that all current members can post, and so that
      > all comments are unmoderated. If the occasional comments needs
      > deleting, that can be taken care of by one or two people on the rare
      > occasion it might be necessary.
      >
      > I'd like to say that this board has been one of the best I've ever seen
      > for staying on topic, so going forward with a blog would be pretty
      > problem-free, I think.
      >
      > But the bulletin board format like this seems to not be the best way
      > forward. It might be an apporopriate time to change it.
      >
      > Steve Garcia
      >
      > Steve, I actually agree with you totally. The reason AWS is set up the
      > way it is is that this was the only thing I knew how to do when Susan
      > and I talked at an Ancient Earthworks Society meeting 8 years ago. That
      > was several years before I started my own blog, but I was familiar with
      > the Yahoo Groups from various investment discussion groups.
      >
      > I don't particularly like the format here because the posts so often
      > incorporate past material and get endlessly complex. A blog would
      > probably be more manageable - and it would be way better for posting
      > photos and links.
      >
      > If you'd like to set one up under the title "Ancient Waterways Society
      > blog," please feel free to do so. I don't think anyone here would
      > object to your using the AWS name (or another one if you prefer).
      > Personally I would recommend Google's Blogger as a host. It's free and
      > easy. Then just post a message here and let people migrate to the new
      > platform.
      >
      > Stan
      >
      >
      >
      >
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    • charles bruns
      now if somebody will tell me what an IPad is they might get my ten spot.  I have issues with technological innovation, and feel Susan can use a machine with
      Message 2 of 7 , May 1, 2012
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        now if somebody will tell me what an IPad is they might get my ten spot.  I have issues with technological innovation, and feel Susan can use a machine with sufficient screen width to examine jpgs.  I bought a IBM think pad T42 for $200, and it does more than I will ever need or know.  these were items originally bought in bulk to pass out to corporate hounds who (mostly) just put them in their desks till recall in three years when management bought a "new" version by the carload.  this can be revealed (amount of use) by several methods I will discuss with anyone contacting me off site at, charbruns@...
        I stand firmly with Vincent Barrow, others may follow their star wherever, and I happen to like pictures of naked women.  I AM smart enough to not download anything from this 'spam', don't want to catch anything, ya' know.  chb     

        From: Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...>
        To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 6:40 AM
        Subject: Fw: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board
         
        A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of; our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime members can respond to prior messages. Blogs are much more difficult to respond to anything but the latest comment. Often blog messages are less formal than forum letters. On sending in money,Yahoo is FREE, this is not the purpose of AWS either. I do hope Susan and MinnesotaStan do choose to "stick around".
        From: charles bruns <charbruns@...>;
        To: Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...>;
        Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board
        Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 3:24:22 AM
        I agree with you.  chb
        From: Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...>
        To: charbruns@...; minnesotasta@...; beldingenglish@...
        Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:37 PM
        Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board
        Ancient waterways leaders I hope that we do not forget our groups purpose of exploring the ancient cultural connections that populated the world;  and these material, botanical, linguistic, DNA, and legendary connections information fuel our curiosity and drive us to continue research. I am opposed to creating another blog to discuss the same topics as our group has.  Primarially because yahoo is not formatted for blogs. Also our group has the same searchable content as blogs. Vince ------------------------------ On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 8:35 PM EDT Susan English wrote: >Stan, Steve Garcia and many here who have expressed interest in making a major change in format in behalf of this group. I am glad this discussion has come up. As a co-founder and co-host, here is my input: > >I believe we should keep open the idea of who will become 'host', if that role would entail the ability to delete all of the posts, files, photos, and the group.  I'd hope the new host will continue with Stan's humility, lack of ego-centrism, candor in dealing with things of significance within this association.  As a retired educator, I have no doubt Stan inspired thousands of fine doctors as he has this group and thousands of members of his award-winning TYWKIYDBI blog. > >No one, of course, owns the title.  During the 1980's I am likely the first person who used the term Ancient Waterways Society and a wooden sign on the back window of my vehicles to inspire conversation.  i infrequently also used the term Diffusionists Without Borders after my signature, both to make points with correspondents or  groups:  that waterways worldwide were (and in some ways still are) the roadways that interconnected peoples within and between continents .... long before we were divided, often isolated by tribe, nation, borders. > >My 'politics' within all of this is, contrary to common belief is the belief that at the roots of all of us, that we were (and are) peaceful, loving, intelligent peoples...stronger and more creative when in respect of each other and reverent of Nature, than when greedy and destructive toward each other and our world.  The latter of which History provides plenty of evidence for.  I look for and am finding alternative evidence for  the opposite, often from some of you here.  Most important, is  the where, when and what that took place in all of these circumstances that reversed those once more intelligent and wise ways of living.  > >In whatever folks have for a group such as this, I believe people of diverse interests and backgrounds today -- via the global waterways of our ancient ancestors -- may find common ground and freedom of access  through "international waters", which we try to allow here.  During the 1980's as a graduate student in ancient world Socio-cultural studies (w/Peace Studies minor) and,  as a U. S. resident, I was determined  to go beyond the confines of nation implied by terms as "Ancient American" or "PreColumbian", both of which made up the focus of most of my affiliations and educational background.  The Ancient Waterways Society that has become this group includes folks whose interests span cultural, international,  educational backgrounds, diverse beliefs, and ways of living. > >I too have encouraged members' own personal use of the term Ancient Waterways Society with hope that a mutually-enhancing focus on waterways and peoples be kept inclusively international, inter-tribal, respectful, and inclusive of teachings of wisdomkeepers as well as the Sciences,  which have withstood the tests of time or scrutiny of measure. > >This group and your mutual contributions at a group such as this seems to be an experiment as well a dream come true for me.  Changing the format may encourage the free exchange of even more people, and I do hope this group continues to expand beyond the boundaries that stifle the freedoms in format and thoughtful expression of many other associations. > >My gratitude to Pam Giese, now living in the United Kingdom, for her input starting an internet Ancient Waterways Society years ago when I was even less computer adept.  And always toward Stan --- a stranger when I met him --- for setting up and continuing to host this fine Ancient Waterways Society via YahooGroups.  I respect his input into this group's guidelines and our resulting inclusive and diversely global scope.  And that  there has been no single moderator or dominating force here; instead,  many dozens of folks moderating and helping to maintain the integrity of this association, as a whole.  There are sound ideas presented here that I have not run across anywhere, hence the reason for many scientists, authors, professionals and others who do not join internet groups yet check Posts at this site from time to time. I appreciate that many of you have been so inspired, yourselves, that you have become members. > >In closing, again, though a co-founder here, I only have an IPad, it is difficult to do anything other than look up links, follow posts and do some unformatted correspondence.  I too hope this group remains mutually moderating, and that if there are to be hosts and co-hosts, that they be representative of the geographical, cultural, and other diversities within the group.  I too have long encouraged members' personal use of the term Ancient Waterways Society with hopes that focus on waterways and peoples be kept inclusively global, mutually enhancing, respectful, and leaning heavily toward a scientific base. > >Susan English > >Sent from my iPad > >On Apr 29, 2012, at 2:35 PM, minnesotastan@... wrote: > > "I've always wondered why this isn't set up as a blog or a forum. > > Is there any particular reason? It seems like either would be easier > and more powerful. A blog would be better than a forum, IMHO. > > A blog can be set up so that all current members can post, and so that > all comments are unmoderated. If the occasional comments needs > deleting, that can be taken care of by one or two people on the rare > occasion it might be necessary. > > I'd like to say that this board has been one of the best I've ever seen > for staying on topic, so going forward with a blog would be pretty > problem-free, I think. > > But the bulletin board format like this seems to not be the best way > forward. It might be an apporopriate time to change it. > > Steve Garcia > > Steve, I actually agree with you totally. The reason AWS is set up the > way it is is that this was the only thing I knew how to do when Susan > and I talked at an Ancient Earthworks Society meeting 8 years ago. That > was several years before I started my own blog, but I was familiar with > the Yahoo Groups from various investment discussion groups. > > I don't particularly like the format here because the posts so often > incorporate past material and get endlessly complex. A blog would > probably be more manageable - and it would be way better for posting > photos and links. > > If you'd like to set one up under the title "Ancient Waterways Society > blog," please feel free to do so. I don't think anyone here would > object to your using the AWS name (or another one if you prefer). > Personally I would recommend Google's Blogger as a host. It's free and > easy. Then just post a message here and let people migrate to the new > platform. > > Stan > > > > > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! > NFL's special reward to diehard draft fans > Privacy Policy > > 
      • Ted Sojka
        Vince, I am board with that Idea also. I like the the format we are using. I had not gone to the home page in awhile and discovered some things I like on that
        Message 3 of 7 , May 1, 2012
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          Vince, I am board with that Idea also. I like the the format we are using.  I had not gone to the home page in awhile and discovered some things I like on that page and will use more.

          Thanks to all for considering donating a computer to Susan.  I did not realize she had an I pad too.  I thought she was trying to do all she does on an I phone.    
          ted
          On May 1, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Vincent Barrows wrote:

          A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of; our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime members can respond to prior messages. Blogs are much more difficult to respond to anything but the latest comment. Often blog messages are less formal than forum letters. On sending in money,Yahoo is FREE, this is not the purpose of AWS either. I do hope Susan and MinnesotaStan do choose to "stick around".


          From: charles bruns <charbruns@...>; 
          To: Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...>; 
          Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board 
          Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 3:24:22 AM 

          I agree with you.  chb

          From: Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...>
          To: charbruns@...; minnesotasta@...; beldingenglish@... 
          Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:37 PM
          Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board


          Ancient waterways leaders
          I hope that we do not forget our groups purpose of exploring the ancient cultural connections that populated the world;  and these material, botanical, linguistic, DNA, and legendary connections information fuel our curiosity and drive us to continue research.
          I am opposed to creating another blog to discuss the same topics as our group has.  Primarially because yahoo is not formatted for blogs. Also our group has the same searchable content as blogs. 
          Vince


        • bigalemc2
          Vince - I don t know what blogs you ve participated in, but none of your arguments against blogs holds true with any I ve been associated with. All of them
          Message 4 of 7 , May 1, 2012
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            Vince -

            I don't know what blogs you've participated in, but none of your arguments against blogs holds true with any I've been associated with. All of them have search capabilities. Most DO have searches that work quite well. All of them are publicly accessible. In general, all blog entries are comment-able forever - unless the moderator closes out one, which we can forbid in one way or another. I've commented on blog posts more than five years old.

            As to blogs being less formal than this, yes and no. The formality here is not inherent in the board format - IMHO it is a function of the people here. I can't see the people here being less or more formal just because it might be set up as a blog. The format doesn't contribute one bit to the formality; it is US.

            Also, re your other point about Yahoo not being formatted for blogs - what does Yahoo have to do with it? Boards, forums and blogs can be anything and done by any source, not just Yahoo. If you are married to Yahoo, may I ask why? This is an incredibly antiquated means of communicating, stuck back in the mid-1990s.

            Personally, I think blogs are more 'available'. This format is quite restricting and uninviting. And it is much more 'clunky'' to get around in.

            Those are my views. No argument intended, just wondering why we would want to stay stuck in 1994.

            Steve G

            --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...> wrote:
            >
            > A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of; our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime members can respond to prior messages. Blogs are much more difficult to respond to anything but the latest comment. Often blog messages are less formal than forum letters. On sending in money,Yahoo is FREE, this is not the purpose of AWS either. I do hope Susan and MinnesotaStan do choose to "stick around".
            >
          • james m clark jr
            With AWS Apps added to the site AWS would have an infrastructure to work with additional internet and group options for photos (regarding copyrights or temp
            Message 5 of 7 , May 1, 2012
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              With AWS Apps added to the site AWS would have an infrastructure to work with additional internet and group options for photos (regarding copyrights or temp images etc), chat (a chat option that wouldn't be sent to every members email an additional plus causing less congestion in group messages such as off topic & group changes etc) ... generally more informative for grouplets and moderators who opt to use special notice or daily digest options via email that can be changed at anytime. This would not only promote creativity for long time members or new members it would be an onsite extention more user friendly than many social media outlets... and ideas, AWS would be less of a "Yahoo! 2000 shell" as Forbes put it recently.

              Without Apps added to AWS AWS will never be as intended user friendly. Polls, Calendar and Conference chat for special guest or events will remain generally useless like many other public & private tech groups at Yahoo!

              Now that Chat is functional in Yahoo Groups we are only a year behind rather than a Yahoo! 2000 shell.

              I don't know about you guy but an in the field link could be quit exciting for AWS or a book review.

              This is what we could have using the current format. Apps would naturally generate interaction and in a short while in the right places at AWS. I am real excited about this because I know of no group that currently uses group options for the whole group except
              my groups I'm trying to revive.

              It takes less than 2 minutes to add all the Apps at the AWS Yahoo!site

              With a little tweeking here and there AWS could really set sail in the right direction.

              be well,
              jamey

              .











              --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...> wrote:
              >
              > A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of; our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime members can respond to prior messages. Blogs are much more difficult to respond to anything but the latest comment. Often blog messages are less formal than forum letters. On sending in money,Yahoo is FREE, this is not the purpose of AWS either. I do hope Susan and MinnesotaStan do choose to "stick around".
              >
            • William Conner
              I also like the present format and think it would be a mistake to change it. William Conner ________________________________ From: james m clark jr
              Message 6 of 7 , May 1, 2012
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                I also like the present format and think it would be a mistake to change it.
                 
                William Conner


                From: james m clark jr <jameyboy@...>
                To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:00:15 PM
                Subject: Re: Fw: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board

                 

                With AWS Apps added to the site AWS would have an infrastructure to work with additional internet and group options for photos (regarding copyrights or temp images etc), chat (a chat option that wouldn't be sent to every members email an additional plus causing less congestion in group messages such as off topic & group changes etc) ... generally more informative for grouplets and moderators who opt to use special notice or daily digest options via email that can be changed at anytime. This would not only promote creativity for long time members or new members it would be an onsite extention more user friendly than many social media outlets... and ideas, AWS would be less of a "Yahoo! 2000 shell" as Forbes put it recently.

                Without Apps added to AWS AWS will never be as intended user friendly. Polls, Calendar and Conference chat for special guest or events will remain generally useless like many other public & private tech groups at Yahoo!

                Now that Chat is functional in Yahoo Groups we are only a year behind rather than a Yahoo! 2000 shell.

                I don't know about you guy but an in the field link could be quit exciting for AWS or a book review.

                This is what we could have using the current format. Apps would naturally generate interaction and in a short while in the right places at AWS. I am real excited about this because I know of no group that currently uses group options for the whole group except
                my groups I'm trying to revive.

                It takes less than 2 minutes to add all the Apps at the AWS Yahoo!site

                With a little tweeking here and there AWS could really set sail in the right direction.

                be well,
                jamey

                .

                --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Barrows <v_barrows@...> wrote:

                >
                > A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of; our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime members can respond to prior messages. Blogs are much more difficult to respond to anything but the latest comment. Often blog messages are less formal than forum letters. On sending in money,Yahoo is FREE, this is not the purpose of AWS either. I do hope Susan and MinnesotaStan do choose to "stick around".
                >

              • james m clark jr
                I agree William. Adding Apps to AWS site wouldn t change anything. it would only organize and improve the current format. The only thing we would have to
                Message 7 of 7 , May 1, 2012
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                  I agree William.

                  Adding Apps to AWS site wouldn't change anything. it would only organize and improve the current format. The only thing we would have to change is personal email preference for email delivery if we so choose to moderate AWS grouplet progress somewhat like social media outlets do such as Linked In. In many ways Yahoo Group Apps are better and have just as many options if not more.

                  be well,
                  jmcjr



                  --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, William Conner <conner6343@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I also like the present format and think it would be a mistake to change it.
                  >
                  > William Conner
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > ________________________________
                  > From: james m clark jr <jameyboy@...>
                  > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:00:15 PM
                  > Subject: Re: Fw: [ancient_waterways_society] Re future supervision of this board
                  >
                  >  
                  > With AWS Apps added to the site AWS would have an infrastructure to work with
                  > additional internet and group options for photos (regarding copyrights or temp
                  > images etc), chat (a chat option that wouldn't be sent to every members email an
                  > additional plus causing less congestion in group messages such as off topic &
                  > group changes etc) ... generally more informative for grouplets and moderators
                  > who opt to use special notice or daily digest options via email that can be
                  > changed at anytime. This would not only promote creativity for long time members
                  > or new members it would be an onsite extention more user friendly than many
                  > social media outlets... and ideas, AWS would be less of a "Yahoo! 2000 shell" as
                  > Forbes put it recently.
                  >
                  > Without Apps added to AWS AWS will never be as intended user friendly. Polls,
                  > Calendar and Conference chat for special guest or events will remain generally
                  > useless like many other public & private tech groups at Yahoo!
                  >
                  > Now that Chat is functional in Yahoo Groups we are only a year behind rather
                  > than a Yahoo! 2000 shell.
                  >
                  >
                  > I don't know about you guy but an in the field link could be quit exciting for
                  > AWS or a book review.
                  >
                  >
                  > This is what we could have using the current format. Apps would naturally
                  > generate interaction and in a short while in the right places at AWS. I am real
                  > excited about this because I know of no group that currently uses group options
                  > for the whole group except
                  > my groups I'm trying to revive.
                  >
                  > It takes less than 2 minutes to add all the Apps at the AWS Yahoo!site
                  >
                  > With a little tweeking here and there AWS could really set sail in the right
                  > direction.
                  >
                  > be well,
                  > jamey
                  >
                  > .
                  >
                  > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Barrows
                  > <v_barrows@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > A change in the format from forum to blog is an Idea that I am NOT in favor of;
                  > >our group has searchable content that is publicly accessible and at anytime
                  > >members can respond to prior messages. Blogs are much more difficult to respond
                  > >to anything but the latest comment. Often blog messages are less formal than
                  > >forum letters. On sending in money,Yahoo is FREE, this is not the purpose of AWS
                  > >either. I do hope Susan and MinnesotaStan do choose to "stick around".
                  > >
                  >
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