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Re: further proof of Polynesian -South American contact

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  • Susan
    Francisco ad All,I forgot to send the link for the old Chicha-brewing/chewing technique:
    Message 1 of 6 , Feb 24, 2012
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      Francisco ad All,
      I forgot to send the link for the old Chicha-brewing/chewing technique: 

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcf8WUB33hg&feature=youtube_gdata_player



      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Susan English <beldingenglish@...> wrote:
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      > Intriguing possibilities for diffusion here, Francisco. I came across a similarly produced brew in ancient Egypt but cannot find the link.
      >
      > Early in my marriage we manufactured a lot of beer and wine using our bathtub for fermentation. Now, the only thing I ferment--- a gallon or two at a time-- is a fungi and yeast health beverage called Kombiucha (or, kvass, manchurian tea, Soumonto, and terms from dozens of regions around the world).
      > I therefore found the article and its manufacture particularly interesting. Some of you might enjoy this short Youtube Old Masters Chicha-brewing (and chewing) website. Far back into antiquity making intentional use of human saliva for enzymes, and likely too various bacteria and yeasts, in order to produce a beneficial product further raises my admiration of the ingenuity of ancient people. Even more when evidence indicates that these important concoctions may have been shared across extensive regions/waterways of the world.
      >
      > There is also a web site put out by the Smithsonian called the Beer Archaelogist /links to Chicha and other ancient beverages.
      >
      > Thank you too, Renoud deJong (from the Netherlands), for submitting into our Files three more interrelated articles which appear to be recently written. First link includes a very good photo of a copper oxide from Crete, presumably designed as such for easier transport. Does anyone have a photo, or know if ancient copper oxhides have been found within the Americas?
      >
      > COPPER & TIN FROM AMERICA:
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/files/COPPER-TRADE-1.doc
      >
      > LIFE ON CRETE (Phaistos Disc, c. 1458 B. C.):
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/files/LIFE-ON-CRETE-1.doc
      >
      > DECIPHERMENT OF THE PHAISTOS DISC, "The Power of God Protects the King":
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/files/DECIPHERMENT-1.doc
      >
      >
      > On Feb 21, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Francisco J. González guajataca01@... wrote:
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      > > Yeast biologist Javier Carvajal Barriga in Ecuador collected scrapings
      > > from ancient clay fermentation vessels dated to 680 CE used by Andean
      > > peoples to ferment an alcoholic beverage called Chicha, and coaxed
      > > dormant yeast cells that look to ve recently aritten. back to life using a special scientific method. H
      > > found that the yeast was unlike any modern strains of yeast and
      > > confirmed Spanish reports that the Incas fermented their Chicha with
      > > human saliva, feces and animal bones. They may have added psychotropic
      > > plants to the brew which produces only 4% alcohol. Strangely enough,
      > > this yeast also turned up in a study in Taiwan in fermented tea. Was
      > > this due to contact between Polynesians and South Americans thousands
      > > of years ago? Carvajal found yet another ancient yeast that has been
      > > collected in Australia, Costa Rica and the Galapagos and the genetic
      > > analysis is identical among the three. This yeast is associated with
      > > Tflowers of the sweet potato.
      > >
      > > Scientific American has the story here;
      > > http://wwwe.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-species-resurrected-ancient-andean-tomb&print=tr
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