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  • Martin Carriere
    Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true. Peace and
    Message 1 of 28 , May 8, 2011
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    Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
    Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
    Martin Carriere

    They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
     
     
    The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
    http://taiaiakon.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/sit-in1.jpg
     
  • TRAYLOROO
         Hello Cousin ...... Possible groups to add to support your effort are:  OPEN SPACES, GREEN BELTING, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, etc.    
    Message 2 of 28 , May 8, 2011
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           Hello Cousin ...... Possible groups to add to support your effort are:  OPEN SPACES, GREEN BELTING, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, etc.
       
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      From: Martin Carriere <metismartin@...>
      Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
      To: "Ancient Waterways" <ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:52 AM

       


      Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
      Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
      Martin Carriere

      They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
       
       
      The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
      http://taiaiakon.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/sit-in1.jpg
       
    • TRAYLOROO
           Hello Cousin ......  Peeeee S     The mention of Eagles in an adjacent email reminds me to suggest to the sit-in group:  add a video cam
      Message 3 of 28 , May 8, 2011
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             Hello Cousin ......  Peeeee S  
         
        The mention of "Eagles" in an adjacent email reminds me to suggest to the sit-in group:  add a video cam focused on your sit-in.  Example is this real-time cam on an eagle nest.  We have watched these eaglets develop, 24/7:   http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles   
         
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        From: TRAYLOROO <trayloroo@...>
        Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
        To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 8:28 AM



             Hello Cousin ...... Possible groups to add to support your effort are:  OPEN SPACES, GREEN BELTING, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, etc.
         
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        From: Martin Carriere <metismartin@...>
        Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
        To: "Ancient Waterways" <ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:52 AM

         


        Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
        Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
        Martin Carriere

        They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
         
         
        The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
        http://taiaiakon.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/sit-in1.jpg
         
      • james m clark jr
        From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen t want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I d be allowed to bring some grits for
        Message 4 of 28 , May 8, 2011
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          From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?

          be well,
          jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy


          --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Martin Carriere <metismartin@...> wrote:
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          > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
          > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
          > Martin Carriere
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          > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
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          >  
          > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
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          >  
          > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/
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        • Ted Sojka
          Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line? Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound. ... Does anyone have a picture of this mound that
          Message 5 of 28 , May 8, 2011
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            Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?  

            Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
            On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:

            From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?

            be well,
            jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy


            --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Martin Carriere <metismartin@...> wrote:
            >
            > 
            > 
            > 
            > 
            > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
            > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
            > Martin Carriere
            > 
            > 
            > 
            > 
            > 
            > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
            >  
            >  
            > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
            > 
            >  
            > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/
            >


          • joe white
            O siyo Brothers, and Sisters, This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct Sperm !!!! Shalom, Gah gey you e, Sitting Owl ... From: Ted
            Message 6 of 28 , May 8, 2011
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              O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
               
              This is NOT a serpent.  It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!! 
               
              Shalom,   Gah gey you e,
               
              Sitting Owl
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Ted Sojka
              Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
              Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

              Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?  

              Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
              On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:

              From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?

              be well,
              jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy


              --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Martin Carriere <metismartin@...> wrote:
              >
              > 
              > 
              > 
              > 
              > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
              > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
              > Martin Carriere
              > 
              > 
              > 
              > 
              > 
              > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
              >  
              >  
              > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
              > 
              >  
              > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/
              >


            • james m clark jr
              How is this what it is if is what it ain t? Hha! Call Snoop asap! Well you have to admit it doen t look much like a serpent. Never paid much atention to an
              Message 7 of 28 , May 10, 2011
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                How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                Hha! Call Snoop asap!

                Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.

                I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.

                be well,
                jamey


                --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                >
                > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                >
                > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                >
                > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                >
                > Sitting Owl
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@...>
                > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                >
                >
                > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                >
                >
                > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                >
                > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                >
                >
                > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                >
                > be well,
                > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                >
                >
                > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                > > Martin Carriere
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                > > Â
                > > Â
                > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
                > >
                > > Â
                > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>
                > >
                >
              • joe white
                O siyo Brother, I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities, such as when the stars fall from the sky destroying everything,
                Message 8 of 28 , May 10, 2011
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                  O'siyo Brother,
                   
                  I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                  such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                  every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                  of thousands of years.  It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                  records.
                   
                  Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                   
                  Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                   
                  Shalom,   gah gey you e,
                   
                  Sitting Owl
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                  Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

                   

                  How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                  Hha! Call Snoop asap!

                  Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                  Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                  myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                  suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                  maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.

                  I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                  a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.

                  be well,
                  jamey


                  --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                  >
                  > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                  >
                  > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                  >
                  > Sitting Owl
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@...>
                  > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                  > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                  > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                  >
                  >
                  > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                  >
                  >
                  > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                  >
                  > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                  >
                  >
                  > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                  >
                  > be well,
                  > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                  > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                  > > Martin Carriere
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                  > > Â
                  > > Â
                  > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                  > >
                  > > Â
                  > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>
                  > >
                  >

                • Ted Sojka
                  funny that you should mention that fact, as a huge meteor hit the earth near the mouth of the snake, in the valley below it. Compasses don t work at Serpent
                  Message 9 of 28 , May 10, 2011
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                    funny that you should mention that fact, as a huge meteor hit the earth near the mouth of the snake, in the valley below it.  Compasses don't work at Serpent Mound as the magnetic force under the earth there is quite strong.

                    ted
                    On May 10, 2011, at 10:23 AM, joe white wrote:


                    O'siyo Brother,
                     
                    I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                    such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                    every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                    of thousands of years.  It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                    records.
                     
                    Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                     
                    Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                     
                    Shalom,   gah gey you e,
                     
                    Sitting Owl
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                    Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

                     

                    How is this what it is if is what it ain't? 
                    Hha! Call Snoop asap!

                    Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                    Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                    myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the 
                    suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                    maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.

                    I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now 
                    a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too. 

                    be well,
                    jamey


                    --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                    > 
                    > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!! 
                    > 
                    > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                    > 
                    > Sitting Owl
                    > ----- Original Message ----- 
                    > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@...> 
                    > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com> 
                    > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                    > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                    > 
                    > 
                    > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line? 
                    > 
                    > 
                    > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                    > 
                    > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                    > 
                    > 
                    > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                    > 
                    > be well,
                    > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                    > 
                    > 
                    > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > 
                    > > 
                    > > 
                    > > 
                    > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                    > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                    > > Martin Carriere
                    > > 
                    > > 
                    > > 
                    > > 
                    > > 
                    > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                    > >  
                    > >  
                    > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                    > > 
                    > >  
                    > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>
                    > >
                    >



                  • james m clark jr
                    Wow! That would make it a totally different picture then. Should be intersting to note what else will be rewritten through the colaboration of tradition. be
                    Message 10 of 28 , May 11, 2011
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                      Wow!

                      That would make it a totally different picture then.
                      Should be intersting to note what else will be
                      rewritten through the colaboration of tradition.

                      be well,
                      jamey






                      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Ted Sojka <tedsojka@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > funny that you should mention that fact, as a huge meteor hit the
                      > earth near the mouth of the snake, in the valley below it. Compasses
                      > don't work at Serpent Mound as the magnetic force under the earth
                      > there is quite strong.
                      >
                      > ted
                      > On May 10, 2011, at 10:23 AM, joe white wrote:
                      >
                      > >
                      > > O'siyo Brother,
                      > >
                      > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real
                      > > possibilities,
                      > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything,
                      > > that happens
                      > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many
                      > > 10's
                      > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and
                      > > archaeological, scientific
                      > > records.
                      > >
                      > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                      > >
                      > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                      > >
                      > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                      > >
                      > > Sitting Owl
                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > From: james m clark jr
                      > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                      > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                      > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                      > >
                      > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                      > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                      > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                      > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                      > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                      > >
                      > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                      > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the
                      > > cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it
                      > > too.
                      > >
                      > > be well,
                      > > jamey
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white"
                      > > <joe_white@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                      > > >
                      > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                      > > >
                      > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                      > > >
                      > > > Sitting Owl
                      > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                      > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                      > > >
                      > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                      > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound
                      > > Pictures
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on
                      > > line?
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                      > > >
                      > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't
                      > > want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be
                      > > allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                      > > >
                      > > > be well,
                      > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com
                      > > >, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized
                      > > committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues.
                      > > Sad but true.
                      > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                      > > > > Martin Carriere
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday,
                      > > May 8, 2011
                      > > > > Â
                      > > > > Â
                      > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making
                      > > plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all
                      > > the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from
                      > > last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be
                      > > trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Â
                      > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      >
                    • james m clark jr
                      Shalom Chief, Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps. I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions
                      Message 11 of 28 , May 11, 2011
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                        Shalom Chief,

                        Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.

                        I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                        I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.

                        The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.

                        If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                        also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                        Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.

                        Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.


                        be well,
                        jamey




                        --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > O'siyo Brother,
                        >
                        > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                        > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                        > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                        > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                        > records.
                        >
                        > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                        >
                        > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                        >
                        > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                        >
                        > Sitting Owl
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                        > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                        > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                        > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                        > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                        >
                        > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                        > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                        > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                        > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                        > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                        >
                        > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                        > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                        >
                        > be well,
                        > jamey
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                        > >
                        > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                        > >
                        > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                        > >
                        > > Sitting Owl
                        > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                        > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                        > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                        > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                        > >
                        > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                        > >
                        > > be well,
                        > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                        > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                        > > > Martin Carriere
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                        > > > Â
                        > > > Â
                        > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                        > > >
                        > > > Â
                        > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >
                      • joe white
                        O siyo Brother, The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is easily available in the America s archaeology. We only use the good parts
                        Message 12 of 28 , May 11, 2011
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                          O'siyo Brother,
                           
                          The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                          easily available in the America's archaeology.
                          We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable,  our
                          Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                          Suggest you read urgent,  A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                          I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                          Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                          on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                          have the truth.
                           
                          Shalom,   Gah gey you e,
                           
                          Sitting Owl
                          ----- Original Message -----
                          Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                          Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

                           


                          Shalom Chief,

                          Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.

                          I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                          I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.

                          The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.

                          If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                          also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                          Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.

                          Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.

                          be well,
                          jamey

                          --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > O'siyo Brother,
                          >
                          > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                          > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                          > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                          > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                          > records.
                          >
                          > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                          >
                          > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                          >
                          > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                          >
                          > Sitting Owl
                          > ----- Original Message -----
                          > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                          > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                          > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                          > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                          > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                          >
                          > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                          > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                          > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                          > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                          > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                          >
                          > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                          > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                          >
                          > be well,
                          > jamey
                          >
                          >
                          > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                          > >
                          > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                          > >
                          > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                          > >
                          > > Sitting Owl
                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                          > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                          > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                          > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                          > >
                          > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                          > >
                          > > be well,
                          > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                          > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                          > > > Martin Carriere
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                          > > > Â
                          > > > Â
                          > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                          > > >
                          > > > Â
                          > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >

                        • james m clark jr
                          If this is your case Joe, it s not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which
                          Message 13 of 28 , May 11, 2011
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                            If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.

                            I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.

                            Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                            Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.

                            here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.

                            http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/

                            eat well,
                            jamey

                            --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > O'siyo Brother,
                            >
                            > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                            > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                            > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                            > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                            > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                            > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                            > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                            > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                            > have the truth.
                            >
                            > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                            >
                            > Sitting Owl
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                            > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                            > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                            > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Shalom Chief,
                            >
                            > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                            >
                            > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                            > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                            >
                            > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                            >
                            > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                            > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                            > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                            >
                            > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                            >
                            > be well,
                            > jamey
                            >
                            > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > O'siyo Brother,
                            > >
                            > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                            > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                            > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                            > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                            > > records.
                            > >
                            > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                            > >
                            > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                            > >
                            > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                            > >
                            > > Sitting Owl
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                            > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                            > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                            > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                            > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                            > >
                            > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                            > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                            > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                            > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                            > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                            > >
                            > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                            > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                            > >
                            > > be well,
                            > > jamey
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                            > > >
                            > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                            > > >
                            > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                            > > >
                            > > > Sitting Owl
                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                            > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                            > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                            > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                            > > >
                            > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                            > > >
                            > > > be well,
                            > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                            > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                            > > > > Martin Carriere
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                            > > > > Â
                            > > > > Â
                            > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Â
                            > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >
                          • joe white
                            Yup. It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down. they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones. Proven Y-12 Cherokee
                            Message 14 of 28 , May 12, 2011
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                              Yup.  It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                              they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones.
                               
                              Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA,  33.87% of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                              30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen Gene (Jew Gene)
                              mt DNA   90% ancient Middle Eastern.
                               
                              The most recent report is in the latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                               
                              Please read the suggested material.
                               
                              We still use the ancient written language, especially the Tav (End)
                              No doubt Knights Templar influence in recent times 1300.
                               
                              Shalom,  Gah gey you e,
                               
                              Sitting Owl
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:45 AM
                              Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

                               

                              If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.

                              I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.

                              Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                              Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.

                              here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.

                              http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/

                              eat well,
                              jamey

                              --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > O'siyo Brother,
                              >
                              > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                              > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                              > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                              > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                              > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                              > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                              > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                              > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                              > have the truth.
                              >
                              > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                              >
                              > Sitting Owl
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                              > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                              > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                              > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Shalom Chief,
                              >
                              > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                              >
                              > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                              > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                              >
                              > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                              >
                              > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                              > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                              > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                              >
                              > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                              >
                              > be well,
                              > jamey
                              >
                              > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > O'siyo Brother,
                              > >
                              > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                              > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                              > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                              > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                              > > records.
                              > >
                              > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                              > >
                              > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                              > >
                              > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                              > >
                              > > Sitting Owl
                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                              > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                              > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                              > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                              > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                              > >
                              > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                              > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                              > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                              > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                              > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                              > >
                              > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                              > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                              > >
                              > > be well,
                              > > jamey
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                              > > >
                              > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                              > > >
                              > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                              > > >
                              > > > Sitting Owl
                              > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                              > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                              > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                              > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                              > > >
                              > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                              > > >
                              > > > be well,
                              > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                              > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                              > > > > Martin Carriere
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                              > > > > Â
                              > > > > Â
                              > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Â
                              > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              >

                            • james m clark jr
                              Shalom Haver, (Hello friend) The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma? Not possible unless they work for Uncle Sam. I was in a theological private newsgroups Joe and
                              Message 15 of 28 , May 12, 2011
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                                Shalom Haver, (Hello friend)

                                The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma? Not possible unless they work for Uncle Sam. I was in a theological private newsgroups Joe and this is yahoo! The Baal pushers that want to force feed us human parts are not the Cherokee Nation.

                                At any rate thanks for the stats. I don't recall these on the History Channel I think was. The clip I saw seemed rather shrewed toward you guys.

                                As far as my assumption regarding Harpo or ydna was from the pioneer of Harpo ydna research according to Dr. Karl Skorecki or the publisher analysis of Peter Goodspeed.

                                removed from the public archives of Vos Is Neias at
                                http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/
                                Oct. 2009 is missing

                                but it is there at their site
                                http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f\indings-links-jews-to-ancestors/

                                ... and removed from the public archives of the National Post
                                http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz

                                So I can't refute the evidence but the philosopy I can eventually come to a more accurate assesment. This is a new field and I'm not so readily just to take off the training wheels just yet.

                                be well,
                                jamey





                                --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Yup. It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                                > they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones.
                                >
                                > Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA, 33.87% of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                                > 30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen Gene (Jew Gene)
                                > mt DNA 90% ancient Middle Eastern.
                                >
                                > The most recent report is in the latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                                >
                                > Please read the suggested material.
                                >
                                > We still use the ancient written language, especially the Tav (End)
                                > No doubt Knights Templar influence in recent times 1300.
                                >
                                > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                >
                                > Sitting Owl
                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:45 AM
                                > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.
                                >
                                > I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.
                                >
                                > Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                                > Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.
                                >
                                > here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.
                                >
                                > http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/>
                                >
                                > eat well,
                                > jamey
                                >
                                > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > O'siyo Brother,
                                > >
                                > > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                > > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                                > > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                                > > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                                > > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                > > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                > > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                > > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                > > have the truth.
                                > >
                                > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                > >
                                > > Sitting Owl
                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                                > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Shalom Chief,
                                > >
                                > > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                                > >
                                > > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                                > > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                > >
                                > > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                                > >
                                > > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                > > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                                > > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                                > >
                                > > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                                > >
                                > > be well,
                                > > jamey
                                > >
                                > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                > > >
                                > > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                > > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                                > > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                > > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                                > > > records.
                                > > >
                                > > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                > > >
                                > > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                                > > >
                                > > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                                > > >
                                > > > Sitting Owl
                                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                                > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                                > > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                > > >
                                > > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                > > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                > > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                > > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                > > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                                > > >
                                > > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                                > > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                                > > >
                                > > > be well,
                                > > > jamey
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                                > > > >
                                > > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Sitting Owl
                                > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                > > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                > > > >
                                > > > > be well,
                                > > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                > > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                > > > > > Martin Carriere
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                > > > > > Â
                                > > > > > Â
                                > > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Â
                                > > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>>
                                > > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                >
                              • joe white
                                O siyo Brother, We have the largest data base of Cherokee DNA in the world. Please contact Donald Panther-Yates, PhD, DNA Consultants on our shared research,
                                Message 16 of 28 , May 12, 2011
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                                  O'siyo Brother,
                                   
                                  We have the largest data base of Cherokee DNA in the world.
                                  Please contact Donald Panther-Yates, PhD,  DNA Consultants
                                  on our shared research, and current publications.
                                   
                                  The History Channel LIED!!!!  They quoted 3% instead of 33.87%.
                                   
                                  The Cherokee Nation is inside my, and other affiliates lap tops.
                                  It is their "Task Force" to KILL other Cherokee Tribes, especially
                                  those Celebrating their "House of Israel Heritage" very successfully.
                                  They work a very well skilled plan to destroy Tribes.  We are their
                                  current Major Target.
                                   
                                  They will get this email at the same time you receive it.
                                   
                                  Nothing but The Truth!!!!
                                   
                                  Shalom,   Gah gey you e,
                                   
                                  Sitting Owl
                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:01 AM
                                  Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

                                   

                                  Shalom Haver, (Hello friend)

                                  The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma? Not possible unless they work for Uncle Sam. I was in a theological private newsgroups Joe and this is yahoo! The Baal pushers that want to force feed us human parts are not the Cherokee Nation.

                                  At any rate thanks for the stats. I don't recall these on the History Channel I think was. The clip I saw seemed rather shrewed toward you guys.

                                  As far as my assumption regarding Harpo or ydna was from the pioneer of Harpo ydna research according to Dr. Karl Skorecki or the publisher analysis of Peter Goodspeed.

                                  removed from the public archives of Vos Is Neias at
                                  http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/
                                  Oct. 2009 is missing

                                  but it is there at their site
                                  http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f\indings-links-jews-to-ancestors/

                                  ... and removed from the public archives of the National Post
                                  http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz

                                  So I can't refute the evidence but the philosopy I can eventually come to a more accurate assesment. This is a new field and I'm not so readily just to take off the training wheels just yet.

                                  be well,
                                  jamey

                                  --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Yup. It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                                  > they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones.
                                  >
                                  > Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA, 33.87% of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                                  > 30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen Gene (Jew Gene)
                                  > mt DNA 90% ancient Middle Eastern.
                                  >
                                  > The most recent report is in the latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                                  >
                                  > Please read the suggested material.
                                  >
                                  > We still use the ancient written language, especially the Tav (End)
                                  > No doubt Knights Templar influence in recent times 1300.
                                  >
                                  > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                  >
                                  > Sitting Owl
                                  > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                  > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:45 AM
                                  > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.
                                  >
                                  > I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.
                                  >
                                  > Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                                  > Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.
                                  >
                                  > here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.
                                  >
                                  > http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/>
                                  >
                                  > eat well,
                                  > jamey
                                  >
                                  > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > O'siyo Brother,
                                  > >
                                  > > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                  > > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                                  > > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                                  > > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                                  > > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                  > > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                  > > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                  > > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                  > > have the truth.
                                  > >
                                  > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                  > >
                                  > > Sitting Owl
                                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                  > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                  > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                                  > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Shalom Chief,
                                  > >
                                  > > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                                  > >
                                  > > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                                  > > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                  > >
                                  > > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                                  > >
                                  > > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                  > > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                                  > > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                                  > >
                                  > > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                                  > >
                                  > > be well,
                                  > > jamey
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                  > > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                                  > > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                  > > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                                  > > > records.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Sitting Owl
                                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                  > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                  > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                                  > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                                  > > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                  > > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                  > > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                  > > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                  > > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                                  > > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > be well,
                                  > > > jamey
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Sitting Owl
                                  > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                  > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                  > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                  > > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > be well,
                                  > > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                  > > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                  > > > > > Martin Carriere
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                  > > > > > Â
                                  > > > > > Â
                                  > > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Â
                                  > > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>>
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  >

                                • Susan
                                  Good to hear from you, Cal---thanks for the information. Please update us on the work you have been doing for some time in New Mexico. Will undoubtedly be
                                  Message 17 of 28 , May 12, 2011
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                                    Good to hear from you, Cal---thanks for the information. Please update
                                    us on the work you have been doing for some time in New Mexico.

                                    Will undoubtedly be hospitalized and laid up for a time but am following
                                    group posts via iphone and the library when I can get to it. My son has
                                    my computer in Chicago, getting it repaired. Ted, I may wish to
                                    exchange emails with your wife as am going through similar surgery soon.
                                    Larry, thank you, as a relative newcomer, for jumping right in and
                                    getting to know some of the members here. I was glad to see several
                                    directly interested in your dedicated and excellent work on Sacred
                                    Vermont. Could you mention some of the oldtimers you worked with that
                                    you'd mentioned in an email to me before your joined? I think Cal,
                                    Zena, Ross and some of the East Coasters may know or have known a few of
                                    them.

                                    Not sure if anyone commented on your fine submission included with your
                                    recent post, Ted, but thank you. Also to Jamey, Martin, Joe White,
                                    Charles, and earlier this month: Jo, Crystal, KBS Keith, Mark,
                                    Francisco, Ross for posting.

                                    If fifty-three messages thus far this week going into your mailbox is a
                                    bit heavy for some here, feel free to change Membership settings from
                                    Individual Emails to Daily Digest or other. Thank you for addressing
                                    or acknowledging some of the messages here and keeping
                                    intercomunications understandable to the 90+ membership here.

                                    Susan



                                    --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, TRAYLOROO
                                    <trayloroo@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >    Hello Cousin ...... Possible groups to add
                                    to support your effort are: OPEN SPACES, GREEN BELTING,
                                    NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, etc.
                                    > Â
                                    > Â ============================Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
                                    > Â
                                    >
                                    > From: Martin Carriere metismartin@...
                                    > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1
                                    Attachment]
                                    > To: "Ancient Waterways" ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:52 AM
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Â
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > [Attachment(s) from Martin Carriere included below]
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized
                                    committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad
                                    but true.
                                    > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                    > Martin Carriere
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May
                                    8, 2011
                                    > Â
                                    > Â
                                    > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans
                                    to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way
                                    around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that
                                    we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need
                                    donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
                                    >
                                    > Â
                                    > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/
                                    >
                                  • james m clark jr
                                    Thanks Joe you are an upstanding man. Joe you can pervent this! If you do or don t have any software protection make sure your email or webmail has https//:
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                                      Thanks Joe you are an upstanding man.

                                      Joe you can pervent this!

                                      If you do or don't have any software protection make sure your email or webmail has https//: rather than the http//: in the ip address display box. This "s" stands for secure. It is use to sign in to yahoo! groups just as many sites provide this secure option already, but those that do not remain secure such as yahoo! groups for instance, once you visit a group it then returns back to the regular http//:

                                      However any yahoo! Chat is secure at any yahoo group. Also Yahoo! tries to make a big issue for those that hide their personal Ip address. According to this policy if reported by another member or moderator there is a good chance by taking this risk even in chat,
                                      that one could be digitally terminated from any yahoo! activity provided regarless of foul play or not. In my opinion I think it is worth the risk and always will take that risk if I assume I need too. As far as Chat you can just do this through an online server such as Ixquick, dogpile or a few others. If I didn't have this option I wouldn't be here anyway. I don't need email


                                      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > O'siyo Brother,
                                      >
                                      > We have the largest data base of Cherokee DNA in the world.
                                      > Please contact Donald Panther-Yates, PhD, DNA Consultants
                                      > on our shared research, and current publications.
                                      >
                                      > The History Channel LIED!!!! They quoted 3% instead of 33.87%.
                                      >
                                      > The Cherokee Nation is inside my, and other affiliates lap tops.
                                      > It is their "Task Force" to KILL other Cherokee Tribes, especially
                                      > those Celebrating their "House of Israel Heritage" very successfully.
                                      > They work a very well skilled plan to destroy Tribes. We are their
                                      > current Major Target.
                                      >
                                      > They will get this email at the same time you receive it.
                                      >
                                      > Nothing but The Truth!!!!
                                      >
                                      > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                      >
                                      > Sitting Owl
                                      > ----- Original Message -----
                                      > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                      > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                      > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:01 AM
                                      > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Shalom Haver, (Hello friend)
                                      >
                                      > The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma? Not possible unless they work for Uncle Sam. I was in a theological private newsgroups Joe and this is yahoo! The Baal pushers that want to force feed us human parts are not the Cherokee Nation.
                                      >
                                      > At any rate thanks for the stats. I don't recall these on the History Channel I think was. The clip I saw seemed rather shrewed toward you guys.
                                      >
                                      > As far as my assumption regarding Harpo or ydna was from the pioneer of Harpo ydna research according to Dr. Karl Skorecki or the publisher analysis of Peter Goodspeed.
                                      >
                                      > removed from the public archives of Vos Is Neias at
                                      > http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/<http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/>
                                      > Oct. 2009 is missing
                                      >
                                      > but it is there at their site
                                      > http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f<http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f>\indings-links-jews-to-ancestors/
                                      >
                                      > ... and removed from the public archives of the National Post
                                      > http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz<http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz>
                                      >
                                      > So I can't refute the evidence but the philosopy I can eventually come to a more accurate assesment. This is a new field and I'm not so readily just to take off the training wheels just yet.
                                      >
                                      > be well,
                                      > jamey
                                      >
                                      > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > Yup. It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                                      > > they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones.
                                      > >
                                      > > Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA, 33.87% of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                                      > > 30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen Gene (Jew Gene)
                                      > > mt DNA 90% ancient Middle Eastern.
                                      > >
                                      > > The most recent report is in the latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                                      > >
                                      > > Please read the suggested material.
                                      > >
                                      > > We still use the ancient written language, especially the Tav (End)
                                      > > No doubt Knights Templar influence in recent times 1300.
                                      > >
                                      > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                      > >
                                      > > Sitting Owl
                                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                                      > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                      > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                      > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:45 AM
                                      > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.
                                      > >
                                      > > I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.
                                      > >
                                      > > Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                                      > > Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.
                                      > >
                                      > > here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.
                                      > >
                                      > > http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/><http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/>>
                                      > >
                                      > > eat well,
                                      > > jamey
                                      > >
                                      > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                      > > >
                                      > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                      > > >
                                      > > > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                      > > > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                                      > > > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                                      > > > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                                      > > > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                      > > > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                      > > > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                      > > > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                      > > > have the truth.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Sitting Owl
                                      > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                      > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                      > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                      > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                                      > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Shalom Chief,
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                                      > > > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                      > > > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                                      > > > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > be well,
                                      > > > jamey
                                      > > >
                                      > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                      > > > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                                      > > > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                      > > > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                                      > > > > records.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Sitting Owl
                                      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                      > > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                      > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                      > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                                      > > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                                      > > > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                      > > > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                      > > > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                      > > > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                      > > > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                                      > > > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > be well,
                                      > > > > jamey
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > Sitting Owl
                                      > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                      > > > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                      > > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                      > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                      > > > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > be well,
                                      > > > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                      > > > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                      > > > > > > Martin Carriere
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                      > > > > > > Â
                                      > > > > > > Â
                                      > > > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Â
                                      > > > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>>>
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      >
                                    • james m clark jr
                                      The birds reminded me to wish well Susan. I hope you have a plesent recovery. be well, jamey
                                      Message 19 of 28 , May 13, 2011
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                                        The birds reminded me to wish well Susan.

                                        I hope you have a plesent recovery.

                                        be well,
                                        jamey

                                        --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <beldingenglish@...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Good to hear from you, Cal---thanks for the information. Please update
                                        > us on the work you have been doing for some time in New Mexico.
                                        >
                                        > Will undoubtedly be hospitalized and laid up for a time but am following
                                        > group posts via iphone and the library when I can get to it. My son has
                                        > my computer in Chicago, getting it repaired. Ted, I may wish to
                                        > exchange emails with your wife as am going through similar surgery soon.
                                        > Larry, thank you, as a relative newcomer, for jumping right in and
                                        > getting to know some of the members here. I was glad to see several
                                        > directly interested in your dedicated and excellent work on Sacred
                                        > Vermont. Could you mention some of the oldtimers you worked with that
                                        > you'd mentioned in an email to me before your joined? I think Cal,
                                        > Zena, Ross and some of the East Coasters may know or have known a few of
                                        > them.
                                        >
                                        > Not sure if anyone commented on your fine submission included with your
                                        > recent post, Ted, but thank you. Also to Jamey, Martin, Joe White,
                                        > Charles, and earlier this month: Jo, Crystal, KBS Keith, Mark,
                                        > Francisco, Ross for posting.
                                        >
                                        > If fifty-three messages thus far this week going into your mailbox is a
                                        > bit heavy for some here, feel free to change Membership settings from
                                        > Individual Emails to Daily Digest or other. Thank you for addressing
                                        > or acknowledging some of the messages here and keeping
                                        > intercomunications understandable to the 90+ membership here.
                                        >
                                        > Susan
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, TRAYLOROO
                                        > <trayloroo@> wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >    Hello Cousin ...... Possible groups to add
                                        > to support your effort are: OPEN SPACES, GREEN BELTING,
                                        > NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, etc.
                                        > > Â
                                        > > Â ============================Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
                                        > > Â
                                        > >
                                        > > From: Martin Carriere metismartin@
                                        > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1
                                        > Attachment]
                                        > > To: "Ancient Waterways" ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:52 AM
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Â
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > [Attachment(s) from Martin Carriere included below]
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized
                                        > committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad
                                        > but true.
                                        > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                        > > Martin Carriere
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May
                                        > 8, 2011
                                        > > Â
                                        > > Â
                                        > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans
                                        > to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way
                                        > around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that
                                        > we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need
                                        > donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
                                        > >
                                        > > Â
                                        > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/
                                        > >
                                        >
                                      • joe white
                                        O siyo Brother, I am a computer dummy! Nothing can change this, but thanks for the tip. Shalom, Gah gey you e, Sitting Owl ... From: james m clark
                                        Message 20 of 28 , May 13, 2011
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                                          O'siyo Brother,
                                           
                                          I am a computer dummy!  Nothing can change this, but thanks for the tip.
                                           
                                          Shalom,   Gah gey you e,
                                           
                                          Sitting Owl
                                          ----- Original Message -----
                                          Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 4:38 AM
                                          Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

                                           

                                          Thanks Joe you are an upstanding man.

                                          Joe you can pervent this!

                                          If you do or don't have any software protection make sure your email or webmail has https//: rather than the http//: in the ip address display box. This "s" stands for secure. It is use to sign in to yahoo! groups just as many sites provide this secure option already, but those that do not remain secure such as yahoo! groups for instance, once you visit a group it then returns back to the regular http//:

                                          However any yahoo! Chat is secure at any yahoo group. Also Yahoo! tries to make a big issue for those that hide their personal Ip address. According to this policy if reported by another member or moderator there is a good chance by taking this risk even in chat,
                                          that one could be digitally terminated from any yahoo! activity provided regarless of foul play or not. In my opinion I think it is worth the risk and always will take that risk if I assume I need too. As far as Chat you can just do this through an online server such as Ixquick, dogpile or a few others. If I didn't have this option I wouldn't be here anyway. I don't need email

                                          --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > O'siyo Brother,
                                          >
                                          > We have the largest data base of Cherokee DNA in the world.
                                          > Please contact Donald Panther-Yates, PhD, DNA Consultants
                                          > on our shared research, and current publications.
                                          >
                                          > The History Channel LIED!!!! They quoted 3% instead of 33.87%.
                                          >
                                          > The Cherokee Nation is inside my, and other affiliates lap tops.
                                          > It is their "Task Force" to KILL other Cherokee Tribes, especially
                                          > those Celebrating their "House of Israel Heritage" very successfully.
                                          > They work a very well skilled plan to destroy Tribes. We are their
                                          > current Major Target.
                                          >
                                          > They will get this email at the same time you receive it.
                                          >
                                          > Nothing but The Truth!!!!
                                          >
                                          > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                          >
                                          > Sitting Owl
                                          > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                          > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                          > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:01 AM
                                          > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Shalom Haver, (Hello friend)
                                          >
                                          > The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma? Not possible unless they work for Uncle Sam. I was in a theological private newsgroups Joe and this is yahoo! The Baal pushers that want to force feed us human parts are not the Cherokee Nation.
                                          >
                                          > At any rate thanks for the stats. I don't recall these on the History Channel I think was. The clip I saw seemed rather shrewed toward you guys.
                                          >
                                          > As far as my assumption regarding Harpo or ydna was from the pioneer of Harpo ydna research according to Dr. Karl Skorecki or the publisher analysis of Peter Goodspeed.
                                          >
                                          > removed from the public archives of Vos Is Neias at
                                          > http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/<http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/>
                                          > Oct. 2009 is missing
                                          >
                                          > but it is there at their site
                                          > http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f<http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f>\indings-links-jews-to-ancestors/
                                          >
                                          > ... and removed from the public archives of the National Post
                                          > http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz<http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz>
                                          >
                                          > So I can't refute the evidence but the philosopy I can eventually come to a more accurate assesment. This is a new field and I'm not so readily just to take off the training wheels just yet.
                                          >
                                          > be well,
                                          > jamey
                                          >
                                          > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > Yup. It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                                          > > they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones.
                                          > >
                                          > > Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA, 33.87% of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                                          > > 30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen Gene (Jew Gene)
                                          > > mt DNA 90% ancient Middle Eastern.
                                          > >
                                          > > The most recent report is in the latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                                          > >
                                          > > Please read the suggested material.
                                          > >
                                          > > We still use the ancient written language, especially the Tav (End)
                                          > > No doubt Knights Templar influence in recent times 1300.
                                          > >
                                          > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                          > >
                                          > > Sitting Owl
                                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                          > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                          > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:45 AM
                                          > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.
                                          > >
                                          > > I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.
                                          > >
                                          > > Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                                          > > Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.
                                          > >
                                          > > here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.
                                          > >
                                          > > http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/><http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/>>
                                          > >
                                          > > eat well,
                                          > > jamey
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                          > > >
                                          > > > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                          > > > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                                          > > > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                                          > > > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                                          > > > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                          > > > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                          > > > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                          > > > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                          > > > have the truth.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Sitting Owl
                                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                          > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                          > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                                          > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Shalom Chief,
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                                          > > > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                          > > > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                                          > > > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > be well,
                                          > > > jamey
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                          > > > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                                          > > > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                          > > > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                                          > > > > records.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Sitting Owl
                                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                          > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                          > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                                          > > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                                          > > > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                          > > > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                          > > > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                          > > > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                          > > > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                                          > > > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > be well,
                                          > > > > jamey
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Sitting Owl
                                          > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                          > > > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                          > > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                          > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                          > > > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > be well,
                                          > > > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                          > > > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                          > > > > > > Martin Carriere
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                          > > > > > > Â
                                          > > > > > > Â
                                          > > > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Â
                                          > > > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>>>
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                                        • james m clark jr
                                          I m still learning myself Chief. AWS is public & isn t the place to talk about this anyway. May have use for yahoo! native 2 native 2 group started about 8 yrs
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                                            I'm still learning myself Chief.

                                            AWS is public & isn't the place to talk about this anyway.
                                            May have use for yahoo! native 2 native 2 group started about 8 yrs ago though.

                                            But let me ask you this without a public reply.

                                            Is the CBC site yours & directly linked to your pc?
                                            If so then that right there could be your main problem.
                                            Ben Laden could hack your pc if it was possible.

                                            Up at the top on the page you use to search for stuff online
                                            click "tools" just like you do when sending email or webmail. When you do that a gray window opens... don't worry about that, it doesn't effect anything you are currently doing. You should have there in the list something like "InPrivate Browsing" pick & click it with the little digital rodent so many needlessly screem within for help! when asking doesn't seem to be an option. Learning the keyboard mumbo jumbo can wait. At the bottom you have 2 options click the first one for now.

                                            When you do that another window will open and at the top may be something stated like "Topic not found". Dont worry about that; pick & click the "More support options" at the bottom. Don't worry about this either.

                                            But Here is the vein leading to ending some of your digital worries... read some of it if you like or just close these and go back to what you were doing.

                                            If your pc or email is not secure someone you know can help. You may have to pay a fee for some options but many are willing to assist for free also. That would be somebody you trust, not just anybody.

                                            The online options I use in public or private groups at times, in your case with so much publicity would take others about as long as it does for beef cattle to become organic... which is 3 years! Its basically like a digital purification ritual, but that is for the advrage Joe.

                                            You need to secure your pc and use only a secured email or webmail address and make sure there is eventually no unsecured public link to the general public to you Joe. There are to many pranksters, but they can also be delt with.

                                            be well,
                                            jamey

                                            --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > O'siyo Brother,
                                            >
                                            > I am a computer dummy! Nothing can change this, but thanks for the tip.
                                            >
                                            > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                            >
                                            > Sitting Owl
                                            > ----- Original Message -----
                                            > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                            > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                            > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 4:38 AM
                                            > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Thanks Joe you are an upstanding man.
                                            >
                                            > Joe you can pervent this!
                                            >
                                            > If you do or don't have any software protection make sure your email or webmail has https//: rather than the http//: in the ip address display box. This "s" stands for secure. It is use to sign in to yahoo! groups just as many sites provide this secure option already, but those that do not remain secure such as yahoo! groups for instance, once you visit a group it then returns back to the regular http//:
                                            >
                                            > However any yahoo! Chat is secure at any yahoo group. Also Yahoo! tries to make a big issue for those that hide their personal Ip address. According to this policy if reported by another member or moderator there is a good chance by taking this risk even in chat,
                                            > that one could be digitally terminated from any yahoo! activity provided regarless of foul play or not. In my opinion I think it is worth the risk and always will take that risk if I assume I need too. As far as Chat you can just do this through an online server such as Ixquick, dogpile or a few others. If I didn't have this option I wouldn't be here anyway. I don't need email
                                            >
                                            > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > O'siyo Brother,
                                            > >
                                            > > We have the largest data base of Cherokee DNA in the world.
                                            > > Please contact Donald Panther-Yates, PhD, DNA Consultants
                                            > > on our shared research, and current publications.
                                            > >
                                            > > The History Channel LIED!!!! They quoted 3% instead of 33.87%.
                                            > >
                                            > > The Cherokee Nation is inside my, and other affiliates lap tops.
                                            > > It is their "Task Force" to KILL other Cherokee Tribes, especially
                                            > > those Celebrating their "House of Israel Heritage" very successfully.
                                            > > They work a very well skilled plan to destroy Tribes. We are their
                                            > > current Major Target.
                                            > >
                                            > > They will get this email at the same time you receive it.
                                            > >
                                            > > Nothing but The Truth!!!!
                                            > >
                                            > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                            > >
                                            > > Sitting Owl
                                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                                            > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                            > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                            > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:01 AM
                                            > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > Shalom Haver, (Hello friend)
                                            > >
                                            > > The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma? Not possible unless they work for Uncle Sam. I was in a theological private newsgroups Joe and this is yahoo! The Baal pushers that want to force feed us human parts are not the Cherokee Nation.
                                            > >
                                            > > At any rate thanks for the stats. I don't recall these on the History Channel I think was. The clip I saw seemed rather shrewed toward you guys.
                                            > >
                                            > > As far as my assumption regarding Harpo or ydna was from the pioneer of Harpo ydna research according to Dr. Karl Skorecki or the publisher analysis of Peter Goodspeed.
                                            > >
                                            > > removed from the public archives of Vos Is Neias at
                                            > > http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/<http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/><http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/<http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/>>
                                            > > Oct. 2009 is missing
                                            > >
                                            > > but it is there at their site
                                            > > http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f<http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f><http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f<http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f>>\indings-links-jews-to-ancestors/
                                            > >
                                            > > ... and removed from the public archives of the National Post
                                            > > http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz<http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz><http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz<http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz>>
                                            > >
                                            > > So I can't refute the evidence but the philosopy I can eventually come to a more accurate assesment. This is a new field and I'm not so readily just to take off the training wheels just yet.
                                            > >
                                            > > be well,
                                            > > jamey
                                            > >
                                            > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Yup. It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                                            > > > they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA, 33.87% of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                                            > > > 30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen Gene (Jew Gene)
                                            > > > mt DNA 90% ancient Middle Eastern.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > The most recent report is in the latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Please read the suggested material.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > We still use the ancient written language, especially the Tav (End)
                                            > > > No doubt Knights Templar influence in recent times 1300.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Sitting Owl
                                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                            > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                            > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                            > > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:45 AM
                                            > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                                            > > > Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/><http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/>><http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/><http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/>>>
                                            > > >
                                            > > > eat well,
                                            > > > jamey
                                            > > >
                                            > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                            > > > > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                                            > > > > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                                            > > > > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                                            > > > > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                            > > > > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                            > > > > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                            > > > > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                            > > > > have the truth.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Sitting Owl
                                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                            > > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                            > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                            > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                                            > > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Shalom Chief,
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                                            > > > > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                            > > > > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                                            > > > > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > be well,
                                            > > > > jamey
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                            > > > > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                                            > > > > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                            > > > > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                                            > > > > > records.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > Sitting Owl
                                            > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                            > > > > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                            > > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                            > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                                            > > > > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                                            > > > > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                            > > > > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                            > > > > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                            > > > > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                            > > > > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                                            > > > > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > be well,
                                            > > > > > jamey
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Sitting Owl
                                            > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                            > > > > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                            > > > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                            > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                            > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > be well,
                                            > > > > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                            > > > > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                            > > > > > > > Martin Carriere
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                            > > > > > > > Â
                                            > > > > > > > Â
                                            > > > > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                            > > > > > > >
                                            > > > > > > > Â
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                                          • TRAYLOROO
                                                   Hello Cousin    ......          RE  the idea of a live cam .... from which our reader Ted Sotja surfaced as being at the beginning
                                            Message 22 of 28 , May 15, 2011
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                                                     Hello Cousin    ......       
                                               
                                              RE  the idea of a live cam .... from which our reader Ted Sotja surfaced as being at the beginning of the Decorah Eagle Cam project.  They approaching 100 million hits.  The three eaglets are no longer cute, becoming teenagers.  But, snow is predicted for them today, may have had snow last evening.   
                                               
                                              I want to thank Reader Ted Sotje and his helpers .... for success beyond their hopes ....
                                               
                                              This letter was not approved by Ted ..... But onward with kudos .... 
                                               
                                              Cal  Traylor, Editor Pat Garrett Newsletter   
                                               
                                              In my Awaiting Action basket is research on: 
                                              Chincoteaque Pony descended from Viking visitors.   
                                               
                                               
                                               
                                               
                                                =======================
                                               
                                               without      .....


                                              --- On Sun, 5/8/11, TRAYLOROO <trayloroo@...> wrote:

                                              From: TRAYLOROO <trayloroo@...>
                                              Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
                                              To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                              Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 8:37 AM



                                                   Hello Cousin ......  Peeeee S  
                                               
                                              The mention of "Eagles" in an adjacent email reminds me to suggest to the sit-in group:  add a video cam focused on your sit-in.  Example is this real-time cam on an eagle nest.  We have watched these eaglets develop, 24/7:   http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles   
                                               
                                               =============
                                               

                                              From: TRAYLOROO <trayloroo@...>
                                              Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
                                              To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                              Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 8:28 AM



                                                   Hello Cousin ...... Possible groups to add to support your effort are:  OPEN SPACES, GREEN BELTING, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, etc.
                                               
                                                ============================       
                                               

                                              From: Martin Carriere <metismartin@...>
                                              Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
                                              To: "Ancient Waterways" <ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                              Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:52 AM

                                               


                                              Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                              Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                              Martin Carriere

                                              They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                               
                                               
                                              The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tents…
                                              http://taiaiakon.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/sit-in1.jpg
                                               
                                            • Ted Sojka
                                              The eagles are overshadowing the birds that started the project , and that was the Peregrine Falcon project of Bob Anderson of the Raptor Resource Project.
                                              Message 23 of 28 , May 15, 2011
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                                                The eagles are overshadowing the birds that started the project , and that was the Peregrine Falcon project of Bob Anderson of the Raptor Resource Project.  

                                                Here is some information for all.  Bob took too thin eggs weakened by pesticide form Peregrine nests, hand raised them using puppets shaped like the Mother' s who could not sit on eggs that shattered.  They were then placed in nesting boxes when they could feed themselves.  Talk about a graduation, watching these birds take off from ledges on buildings, off boxes fixed to the sides of chimneys, and a few off of cliff faces, was a thrill for all who helped Bob to get to this point.   

                                                Now there are breeding pairs who return to nesting sites along the bluffs of the Mississippi River.  Some are caught and banded and weighed and tested, and DNA records are kept to follow the birds progress in multiplying and repopulating the midwest.  Bob has worked with filmmakers to produce some documentaries for Public TV.  Look for them on line.
                                                Ted 
                                                PS Thanks Cal, I will pass your thoughts on to Mr. Anderson.

                                                Posted: Thu, May 12, 2011 7:54 AM
                                                Yes, there's Decorah's famous eaglecam, but there's also an Iowa peregrine falcon cam the Iowa DNR is trying to publicize.

                                                Since 1993 there has been a falcon nest on top of a downtown Des Moines building.  There have been 46 young produced at this site. 

                                                The live web cam can be seen at athttp://www.iowadnr.gov/wildlife/diversity/falconcam.html

                                                DNR officials say the Wildlife Diversity Program (WDP) gets no state general fund money and operates entirely on donations directly to the program or through donations to the Fish & Wildlife Trust Fund Chickadee Checkoff) on state tax forms. 

                                                The State of Iowa is asking for contributions to the Wildlife Diversity Program at 1436 255th Street, Boone, IA 50036 or contactPat.Schlarbaum@... 
                                                On May 15, 2011, at 9:47 AM, TRAYLOROO wrote:




                                                       Hello Cousin    ......       
                                                 
                                                RE  the idea of a live cam .... from which our reader Ted Sotja surfaced as being at the beginning of the Decorah Eagle Cam project.  They approaching 100 million hits.  The three eaglets are no longer cute, becoming teenagers.  But, snow is predicted for them today, may have had snow last evening.   
                                                 
                                                I want to thank Reader Ted Sotje and his helpers .... for success beyond their hopes ....
                                                 
                                                This letter was not approved by Ted ..... But onward with kudos .... 
                                                 
                                                Cal  Traylor, Editor Pat Garrett Newsletter   
                                                 
                                                In my Awaiting Action basket is research on: 
                                                Chincoteaque Pony descended from Viking visitors.   
                                                 
                                                 
                                                 
                                                 
                                                  =======================
                                                 
                                                 without      .....


                                                --- On Sun, 5/8/11, TRAYLOROO <trayloroo@...> wrote:

                                                From: TRAYLOROO <trayloroo@...>
                                                Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
                                                To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                                Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 8:37 AM



                                                     Hello Cousin ......  Peeeee S  
                                                 
                                                The mention of "Eagles" in an adjacent email reminds me to suggest to the sit-in group:  add a video cam focused on your sit-in.  Example is this real-time cam on an eagle nest.  We have watched these eaglets develop, 24/7:   http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles   
                                                 
                                                 =============
                                                 

                                                From: TRAYLOROO <trayloroo@...>
                                                Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
                                                To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                                Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 8:28 AM



                                                     Hello Cousin ...... Possible groups to add to support your effort are:  OPEN SPACES, GREEN BELTING, NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, etc.
                                                 
                                                  ============================       
                                                 

                                                From: Martin Carriere <metismartin@...>
                                                Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] FW: Snake Mound sit-in [1 Attachment]
                                                To: "Ancient Waterways" <ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                                Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:52 AM

                                                 




                                              • Jeff
                                                Hello, this is Jeff writing. I am wondering how I can use the secure option on my e-mail, but am not sure whether I understand your instructions. Jeff in MO
                                                Message 24 of 28 , Dec 29, 2011
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                                                  Hello, this is Jeff writing. I am wondering how I can use the secure option on my e-mail, but am not sure whether I understand your instructions.

                                                  Jeff in MO

                                                  --- On Fri, 5/13/11, james m clark jr <jameyboy@...> wrote:

                                                  > Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 4:38 AM

                                                  >
                                                  > Thanks Joe you are an upstanding
                                                  > man.
                                                  >
                                                  > Joe you can pervent this!
                                                  >
                                                  > If you do or don't have any software protection make sure
                                                  > your email or webmail has https//: rather than the http//:
                                                  > in the ip address display box. This "s" stands for secure.
                                                  > It is use to sign in to yahoo! groups just as many sites
                                                  > provide this secure option already, but those that do not
                                                  > remain secure such as yahoo! groups for instance, once you
                                                  > visit a group it then returns back to the regular http//:
                                                  >
                                                  > However any yahoo! Chat is secure at any yahoo group. Also
                                                  > Yahoo! tries to make a big issue for those that hide their
                                                  > personal Ip address. According to this policy if reported by
                                                  > another member or moderator there is a good chance by taking
                                                  > this risk even in chat,   
                                                  > that one could be digitally terminated from any yahoo!
                                                  > activity provided regarless of foul play or not. In my
                                                  > opinion I think it is worth the risk and always will take
                                                  > that risk if I assume I need too. As far as Chat you can
                                                  > just do this through an online server such as Ixquick,
                                                  > dogpile or a few others. If I didn't have this option I
                                                  > wouldn't be here anyway. I don't need email
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com,
                                                  > "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > O'siyo Brother,
                                                  > >
                                                  > > We have the largest data base of Cherokee DNA in the
                                                  > world.
                                                  > > Please contact Donald Panther-Yates, PhD,  DNA
                                                  > Consultants
                                                  > > on our shared research, and current publications.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > The History Channel LIED!!!!  They quoted 3%
                                                  > instead of 33.87%.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > The Cherokee Nation is inside my, and other affiliates
                                                  > lap tops.
                                                  > > It is their "Task Force" to KILL other Cherokee
                                                  > Tribes, especially
                                                  > > those Celebrating their "House of Israel Heritage"
                                                  > very successfully.
                                                  > > They work a very well skilled plan to destroy
                                                  > Tribes.  We are their
                                                  > > current Major Target.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > They will get this email at the same time you receive
                                                  > it.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Nothing but The Truth!!!!
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Shalom,   Gah gey you e,
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Sitting Owl
                                                  > >   ----- Original Message -----
                                                  > >   From: james m clark
                                                  > jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                                  > >   To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                                  >
                                                  > >   Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:01 AM
                                                  > >   Subject: [ancient_waterways_society]
                                                  > Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >     
                                                  > >   Shalom Haver, (Hello friend)
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma? Not
                                                  > possible unless they work for Uncle Sam. I was in a
                                                  > theological private newsgroups Joe and this is yahoo! The
                                                  > Baal pushers that want to force feed us human parts are not
                                                  > the Cherokee Nation.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   At any rate thanks for the stats. I
                                                  > don't recall these on the History Channel I think was. The
                                                  > clip I saw seemed rather shrewed toward you guys.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   As far as my assumption regarding
                                                  > Harpo or ydna was from the pioneer of Harpo ydna research
                                                  > according to Dr. Karl Skorecki or the publisher analysis of
                                                  > Peter Goodspeed.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   removed from the public archives of
                                                  > Vos Is Neias at
                                                  > >   http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/<http://www.vosizneias.com/date/2011/05/11/>
                                                  > >   Oct. 2009 is missing
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   but it is there at their site
                                                  > >   http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f<http://www.vosizneias.com/40519/2009/10/28/canada-toronto-scientist-intriguing-f>\indings-links-jews-to-ancestors/
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   ... and removed from the public
                                                  > archives of the National Post
                                                  > >   http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz<http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2152111#ixzz0VETN1PUz>
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   So I can't refute the evidence but
                                                  > the philosopy I can eventually come to a more accurate
                                                  > assesment. This is a new field and I'm not so readily just
                                                  > to take off the training wheels just yet.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   be well,
                                                  > >   jamey
                                                  > >
                                                  > >   --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>,
                                                  > "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > Yup. It was most likely the
                                                  > cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                                                  > >   > they have killed my lap top many
                                                  > times, had to buy new ones.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA, 33.87%
                                                  > of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                                                  > >   > 30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen
                                                  > Gene (Jew Gene)
                                                  > >   > mt DNA 90% ancient Middle
                                                  > Eastern.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > The most recent report is in the
                                                  > latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > Please read the suggested
                                                  > material.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > We still use the ancient written
                                                  > language, especially the Tav (End)
                                                  > >   > No doubt Knights Templar
                                                  > influence in recent times 1300.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > Sitting Owl
                                                  > >   > ----- Original Message -----
                                                  > >   > From: james m clark
                                                  > jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                                  > >   > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                  >
                                                  > >   > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011
                                                  > 12:45 AM
                                                  > >   > Subject:
                                                  > [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > If this is your case Joe, it's
                                                  > not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and
                                                  > the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to
                                                  > which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the
                                                  > Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no
                                                  > refference to Baal at all.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > I have to admit though it was
                                                  > rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to
                                                  > read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah
                                                  > pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished
                                                  > by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because
                                                  > of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist
                                                  > mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic
                                                  > orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable
                                                  > event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or
                                                  > Jewish European Kabballahist.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > Although Islam lays claim to
                                                  > this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but
                                                  > wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons
                                                  > as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna
                                                  > research is still yet young the main agend seems to be
                                                  > political & in sales.
                                                  > >   > Just recently a prolife group
                                                  > had a summit meeting with various food chains because they
                                                  > were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in
                                                  > various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use
                                                  > stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on
                                                  > any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in
                                                  > theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a
                                                  > search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning
                                                  > this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins.
                                                  > later my pc was shut down and not by me.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > here is one of the links...I
                                                  > haven't been able to find the video clip yet.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/><http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/<http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/>>
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > eat well,
                                                  > >   > jamey
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > >   > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>,
                                                  > "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > O'siyo Brother,
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > The Baal worship, and
                                                  > ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                                  >
                                                  >   > > easily available in the

                                                  > America's archaeology.
                                                  > >   > > We only use the good parts
                                                  > of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                                                  > >   > > Sacred Circle is FULL of
                                                  > it.
                                                  > >   > > Suggest you read urgent, A
                                                  > History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                                  > >   > > I have a copy of the John
                                                  > Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                                  > >   > > Please get a copy of
                                                  > Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                                  > >   > > on the front cover, large
                                                  > dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                                  > >   > > have the truth.
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > Sitting Owl
                                                  > >   > > ----- Original Message
                                                  > -----
                                                  > >   > > From: james m clark
                                                  > jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                                  > >   > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                  >
                                                  > >   > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11,
                                                  > 2011 10:09 AM
                                                  > >   > > Subject:
                                                  > [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > Shalom Chief,
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > Not reall sure. May have
                                                  > some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing
                                                  > pehaps.
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > I never would have thought
                                                  > to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions
                                                  > of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I
                                                  > thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was
                                                  > somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually
                                                  > determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar
                                                  > with. Perhaps mysticism
                                                  > >   > > I somewhat fear because I
                                                  > have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > The following 2 additional
                                                  > suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to
                                                  > Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case
                                                  > an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an
                                                  > otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional
                                                  > Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual
                                                  > aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could
                                                  > understand it a little better maybe.
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > If it is anatomically
                                                  > correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                                  > >   > > also then this could
                                                  > include Man & the animal world through loving kindness -
                                                  > "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right
                                                  > of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according
                                                  > my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on
                                                  > the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have
                                                  > applied as Ben Elohim.
                                                  > >   > > Because this is three
                                                  > dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to
                                                  > represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden
                                                  > spirit world in which according to traditions represents
                                                  > water, revealed & concealed.
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > Ironnicaly, to me although
                                                  > my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the
                                                  > right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on
                                                  > the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit
                                                  > world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter
                                                  > repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as
                                                  > seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty
                                                  > where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world
                                                  > represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional
                                                  > Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic
                                                  > tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit
                                                  > given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah
                                                  > dwells in agreement.
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > be well,
                                                  > >   > > jamey
                                                  > >   > >
                                                  > >   > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>,
                                                  > "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > O'siyo Brother,
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  >
                                                  >   > > > I am not aware of

                                                  > cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                                  > >   > > > such as when the
                                                  > "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that
                                                  > happens
                                                  > >   > > > every time we enter,
                                                  > and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                                  > >   > > > of thousands of years.
                                                  > It is a part of the historical, and archaeological,
                                                  > scientific
                                                  > >   > > > records.
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > Otherwise it is also a
                                                  > "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > Why do ?, want to
                                                  > destroy it?
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > Shalom, gah gey you
                                                  > e,
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > Sitting Owl
                                                  > >   > > > ----- Original Message
                                                  > -----
                                                  > >   > > > From: james m clark
                                                  > jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                                  > >   > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                  >
                                                  > >   > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10,
                                                  > 2011 8:15 AM
                                                  > >   > > > Subject:
                                                  > [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > How is this what it is
                                                  > if is what it ain't?
                                                  > >   > > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > Well you have to admit
                                                  > it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                                  > >   >
                                                  > > Never paid much

                                                  > atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                                  > >   > > > myself that I can
                                                  > recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                                  > >   > > > suggestion Chief. To
                                                  > be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                                  > >   > > > maybe... but that
                                                  > didn't seem to make much sense.
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > I'm not sure I want to
                                                  > recall to memory this day years from now
                                                  > >   > > > a falt I didn't
                                                  > understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos
                                                  > and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it
                                                  > too.
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > be well,
                                                  > >   > > > jamey
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > >   > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>,
                                                  > "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > O'siyo Brothers,
                                                  > and Sisters,
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > This is NOT a
                                                  > serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > Shalom, Gah gey
                                                  > you e,
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > Sitting Owl
                                                  > >   > > > > ----- Original
                                                  > Message -----
                                                  >
                                                  >   > > > > From: Ted

                                                  > Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                                  > >   > > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                  >
                                                  > >   > > >
                                                  > Sent: Sunday, May

                                                  > 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                                  > >   > > > > Subject: Re:
                                                  > [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > Does anyone have
                                                  > a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > Here is one of
                                                  > the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > On May 8, 2011,
                                                  > at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > From what I
                                                  > recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me
                                                  > to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be
                                                  > allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > be well,
                                                  > >   > > > > jamey (dsgb down
                                                  > south georgia)boy
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>,
                                                  > Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > >
                                                  >

                                                  > >   > > > > > Thought I
                                                  > would forward this message to show how our civilized
                                                  > committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound
                                                  > issues. Sad but true.
                                                  > >   > > > > > Peace and
                                                  > happy mothers day for the earth.
                                                  > >   > > > > > Martin
                                                  > Carriere
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  > >   > > > > > They will be
                                                  > having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8,
                                                  > 2011
                                                  > >   > > > > > Â
                                                  > >   > > > > > Â
                                                  > >   > > > > > The City of
                                                  > Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans
                                                  > to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence
                                                  > all the way around the site. This was not part of the
                                                  > agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their
                                                  > word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of
                                                  > wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                                  > >   > > > > >
                                                  >
                                                  >   > > > > > Â

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                                                • Jeff
                                                  Hi, can any one offer any suggestions for protecting their hardware from such hacking. My smart phone came with an antivirus program included, and my dad has
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                                                    Hi, can any one offer any suggestions for protecting their hardware from such hacking. My smart phone came with an antivirus program included, and my dad has Norton Utilities on his pc here -- plus a great program I bought him called RegZooka. Meanwhile, I don't feel like my hardware is "too secure," and am always open to suggestions.

                                                    Jeff in MO

                                                    --- On Thu, 5/12/11, james m clark jr <jameyboy@...> wrote:
                                                    If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.

                                                    I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.

                                                    Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                                                    Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.

                                                    here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.

                                                    http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/

                                                    eat well,
                                                    jamey

                                                    --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                                    >
                                                    > O'siyo Brother,
                                                    >
                                                    > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                                    > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                                                    > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable,  our
                                                    > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                                                    > Suggest you read urgent,  A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                                    > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                                    > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                                    > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                                    > have the truth.
                                                    >
                                                    > Shalom,   Gah gey you e,
                                                    >
                                                    > Sitting Owl
                                                    >   ----- Original Message -----
                                                    >   From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                                    >   To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                                    >   Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                                                    >   Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >     
                                                    >
                                                    >   Shalom Chief,
                                                    >
                                                    >   Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                                                    >
                                                    >   I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                                                    >   I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                                    >
                                                    >   The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                                                    >
                                                    >   If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                                    >   also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                                                    >   Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                                                    >
                                                    >   Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                                                    >
                                                    >   be well,
                                                    >   jamey
                                                    >
                                                    >   --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > O'siyo Brother,
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                                    >   > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                                                    >   > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                                    >   > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                                                    >   > records.
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > Sitting Owl
                                                    >   > ----- Original Message -----
                                                    >   > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                                    >   > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                    >   > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                                                    >   > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                                                    >   > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                                    >   > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                                    >   > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                                    >   > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                                    >   > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                                                    >   > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > be well,
                                                    >   > jamey
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   >
                                                    >   > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > Sitting Owl
                                                    >   > > ----- Original Message -----
                                                    >   > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                                    >   > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                    >   > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                                    >   > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > be well,
                                                    >   > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                                    >   > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                                    >   > > > Martin Carriere
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                                    >   > > > Â
                                                    >   > > > Â
                                                    >   > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > > > Â
                                                    >   > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>
                                                    >   > > >
                                                    >   > >
                                                    >   >
                                                    >




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                                                  • Jeff
                                                    I am intrigued by the discovery that the Cherokees of Tennesee have Jewish / Cohanim DNA. Is there a web page explaining this discovery, or is it only
                                                    Message 26 of 28 , Dec 29, 2011
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                                                      I am intrigued by the discovery that the Cherokees of Tennesee have Jewish / Cohanim DNA.

                                                      Is there a web page explaining this discovery, or is it only circulating in print, or in forums like this?

                                                      My great-great grandfather, Frank Soward, was married to a Native American woman who was part Pawnee, part Mohawk, and part Cherokee -- presumably of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma.

                                                      Jeff

                                                      --- On Thu, 5/12/11, joe white <joe_white@...> wrote:

                                                      From: joe white <joe_white@...>
                                                      Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                      To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 4:43 AM



                                                      Yup.  It was most likely the cherokee nation of oklahoma that shut you down.
                                                      they have killed my lap top many times, had to buy new ones.
                                                       
                                                      Proven Y-12 Cherokee DNA,  33.87% of our main database Jewish in ancient times.
                                                      30% Haplogroup J, with the Cohen Gene (Jew Gene)
                                                      mt DNA   90% ancient Middle Eastern.
                                                       
                                                      The most recent report is in the latest issue of Ancient American Mag.
                                                       
                                                      Please read the suggested material.
                                                       
                                                      We still use the ancient written language, especially the Tav (End)
                                                      No doubt Knights Templar influence in recent times 1300.
                                                       
                                                      Shalom,  Gah gey you e,
                                                       
                                                      Sitting Owl
                                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                                      Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:45 AM
                                                      Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures

                                                       

                                                      If this is your case Joe, it's not mentioned in the Cherokee_History group or links you and the magazine has come up a few times though. The Shem Tov to which I am refering is the same as on the cover of the Welshman, or John Wycliff's Translation which is no refference to Baal at all.

                                                      I have to admit though it was rather amazing that the whole Cherokee Nation learned to read and write in about 3 months. Irronically the Kabbalah pratice of letter permeation in Europe had been aboshished by the Kabballahist just a few decades before partly because of the danger and unwelcome hosts that made some Kaballahist mad. Would you say that this method used was of Masonic orign or Cherokee? I have not assumed that this remarkable event in Cherokee history was creditied to either masons or Jewish European Kabballahist.

                                                      Although Islam lays claim to this century as the "century of Islam" I can't help but wounder if it could also be considered the century of Masons as well. Even the philosophy of the new field of ydna research is still yet young the main agend seems to be political & in sales.
                                                      Just recently a prolife group had a summit meeting with various food chains because they were using stem cells to replace msg sugar and colestoral in various products. Since this summit many have agreed not use stem cells in foods for now. The last date I could find on any of this was April 15th 2011. This appears only in theology news and blogs. Everything ele is censored in a search. I actually made a post today in 2 groups concerning this and I forgot to hide my Ip address and not even 5 mins. later my pc was shut down and not by me.

                                                      here is one of the links...I haven't been able to find the video clip yet.

                                                      http://catholiclane.com/biotech-company-using-aborted-fetal-cell-lines-to-test-food-flavor-enhancers-some-major-food-companies-severing-ties-with-senomyx/

                                                      eat well,
                                                      jamey

                                                      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "joe white" <joe_white@...> wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > O'siyo Brother,
                                                      >
                                                      > The Baal worship, and ancient symbols in the pre-Hebrew alphabet is
                                                      > easily available in the America's archaeology.
                                                      > We only use the good parts of Kabbalah, not the questionable, our
                                                      > Sacred Circle is FULL of it.
                                                      > Suggest you read urgent, A History of the American Indian, 1775 London.
                                                      > I have a copy of the John Howard Payne Papers that confirm Adair.
                                                      > Please get a copy of Ancient American Magazine that has The Star of David
                                                      > on the front cover, large dead center, and read your heart out, you will
                                                      > have the truth.
                                                      >
                                                      > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                                      >
                                                      > Sitting Owl
                                                      > ----- Original Message -----
                                                      > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@...>
                                                      > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com>
                                                      > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:09 AM
                                                      > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > Shalom Chief,
                                                      >
                                                      > Not reall sure. May have some idea now. A lot of something a whole lot of nothing pehaps.
                                                      >
                                                      > I never would have thought to apply Kabbalah traditions to Native American traditions of the spirit world or any other religion for that matter. I thought this would have been a whale of a tale. I was somewhat shocked and may need more criticism to actually determine or digest something I'm not really that familiar with. Perhaps mysticism
                                                      > I somewhat fear because I have found falt in some before especially my own.
                                                      >
                                                      > The following 2 additional suggested cell-splitting realms are not according to Kaballah traditions or a tiune configuration. In this case an addition sphere needed to create a visual aid to an otherwise impossible 3-D Cosmic Tree from the Traditional Jewish Kabbalah shield shape with intent to see if visual aid to the hidden spirit world could apply so I could understand it a little better maybe.
                                                      >
                                                      > If it is anatomically correct & if my Cosmic tree is somewhat correct
                                                      > also then this could include Man & the animal world through loving kindness - "the animal self at it's highest point" to the east or right of the shield shaped Cosmic Tree as it would seem according my Kaballah-like three dimentional Cosmic tree. Both are on the same mid plane but [the] one in the spirit world I have applied as Ben Elohim.
                                                      > Because this is three dimentional I have elected the Hebrew Letter Mem to represent this hidden middle plane of the otherwise hidden spirit world in which according to traditions represents water, revealed & concealed.
                                                      >
                                                      > Ironnicaly, to me although my eyesite is getting worse, Mem appears as a woman on the right or East baring a child to an upright king or chief on the left or west. The other additional part of the spirit world is deemed by me as Shem Tov with no letter repersentation to either the spirit world or the world as seen or as observered. Besides the realm of Sovereignty where mans spirit righly belongs in the spirit world represend by skin although it is visable in the traditional Kabbalah Tree of Life is in part also hidden in my Cosmic tree since it is the venue of the actions of the spirit given & taken by the Spirit where the Matrona Shekhinah dwells in agreement.
                                                      >
                                                      > be well,
                                                      > jamey
                                                      >
                                                      > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                      > >
                                                      > > O'siyo Brother,
                                                      > >
                                                      > > I am not aware of cosmos implications, but there are very real possibilities,
                                                      > > such as when the "stars fall from the sky" destroying everything, that happens
                                                      > > every time we enter, and exit the center of our galaxy every so many 10's
                                                      > > of thousands of years. It is a part of the historical, and archaeological, scientific
                                                      > > records.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Otherwise it is also a "Human Sperm" not a whale.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Why do ?, want to destroy it?
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Shalom, gah gey you e,
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Sitting Owl
                                                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                                                      > > From: james m clark jr<mailto:jameyboy@>
                                                      > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                      > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:15 AM
                                                      > > Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > How is this what it is if is what it ain't?
                                                      > > Hha! Call Snoop asap!
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Well you have to admit it doen't look much like a serpent.
                                                      > > Never paid much atention to an anatomically correct anything
                                                      > > myself that I can recall of. Not sure how even to grasp the
                                                      > > suggestion Chief. To be honest I assumed whale was missing
                                                      > > maybe... but that didn't seem to make much sense.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > I'm not sure I want to recall to memory this day years from now
                                                      > > a falt I didn't understand so could you please state a link to the cosmos and cosmic explanation of this so that I could understand it too.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > be well,
                                                      > > jamey
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, "joe white" <joe_white@> wrote:
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > O'siyo Brothers, and Sisters,
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > This is NOT a serpent. It IS an anatomically correct "Sperm"!!!!
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Shalom, Gah gey you e,
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Sitting Owl
                                                      > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                                      > > > From: Ted Sojka<mailto:tedsojka@>
                                                      > > > To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                      > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:00 PM
                                                      > > > Subject: Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Re: FW: Snake Mound Pictures
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Does anyone have a picture of this mound that they could send on line?
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Here is one of the Ohio Serpent mound.
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > On May 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, james m clark jr wrote:
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > From what I recall Customs are strick but damn if this dosen't want me to buy a ticket and smugged in somehow. You recon I'd be allowed to bring some grits for the sit in?
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > be well,
                                                      > > > jamey (dsgb down south georgia)boy
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:ancient_waterways_society%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Carriere <metismartin@> wrote:
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Thought I would forward this message to show how our civilized committee members of the City of Toronto handle sacred mound issues. Sad but true.
                                                      > > > > Peace and happy mothers day for the earth.
                                                      > > > > Martin Carriere
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > They will be having sunrise ceremony at Snake Mound this Sunday, May 8, 2011
                                                      > > > > Â
                                                      > > > > Â
                                                      > > > > The City of Toronto, sadly today, announced that they are making plans to bulldoze the Snake Mound flat and put a permanent fence all the way around the site. This was not part of the agreement from last week that we posted. Therefore their word can no longer be trusted. We will need donations of wood, food, water, and tentsâ?¦
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Â
                                                      > > > > http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/><http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/<http://taiaiakon.wordpress.com/>>>
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > >
                                                      >



                                                    • minnesotastan@yahoo.com
                                                      Jeff, for some background on the theory of a Jewish origin for the Cherokee and other native American peoples, one place to begin is to read about the lost
                                                      Message 27 of 28 , Dec 30, 2011
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                                                        Jeff, for some background on the theory of a Jewish origin for the Cherokee and other native American peoples, one place to begin is to read about the "lost tribes" of Israel.  Here's the Wikipedia link -

                                                        Ten Lost Tribes  

                                                        After that, use Google to search the key words of interest to you.  It's a highly controversial area.




                                                        --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <quarefremeruntgentes7@...> wrote:

                                                         I am intrigued by the discovery that the Cherokees of Tennesee have Jewish / Cohanim DNA. Is there a web page explaining this discovery, or is it only circulating in print, or in forums like this?

                                                        My great-great grandfather, Frank Soward, was married to a Native American woman who was part Pawnee, part Mohawk, and part Cherokee -- presumably of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma.

                                                        Jeff
                                                      • Prophecykeepers Foundation
                                                        Accoding to Ketoowah Society elder John Red Hat Duke, we are NOT just a lost tribe of Israel... Our own ancient name for us, Ani Ketuwah, is very close to Ami
                                                        Message 28 of 28 , Dec 31, 2011
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                                                          Accoding to Ketoowah Society elder John Red Hat Duke, we are NOT just a lost tribe of Israel...

                                                          Our own ancient name for us, Ani Ketuwah, is very close to Ami Ketura, which in Hebrew means The People of Keturah. Many other Cherokee/Hebrew linguistic similarities exist... so much so that several Rabbis have suggested that I go on the Synagogue lecture circuit.

                                                          Keturah was the third wife of Abraham, and hey were sent away, blessed to be skilled in herbalism ad shamainism.




                                                           
                                                          Prophecykeepers Foundation is a 501(c)3 Public Foundation and a Congressional District Program at http://www.Prophecykeepers.com. The White Roots of Peace Council was founded by the late 6 Nations Peacemaker Mad Bear Anderson, Sachem of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy. We tell the unpopular truths of prophecy that others are afraid to tell... and cannot profit from.

                                                          From: "minnesotastan@..." <minnesotastan@...>
                                                          To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
                                                          Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:41 PM
                                                          Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Re the Cherokee heritage

                                                           
                                                          Jeff, for some background on the theory of a Jewish origin for the Cherokee and other native American peoples, one place to begin is to read about the "lost tribes" of Israel.  Here's the Wikipedia link -

                                                          Ten Lost Tribes  

                                                          After that, use Google to search the key words of interest to you.  It's a highly controversial area.




                                                          --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, Jeff <quarefremeruntgentes7@...> wrote:

                                                           I am intrigued by the discovery that the Cherokees of Tennesee have Jewish / Cohanim DNA. Is there a web page explaining this discovery, or is it only circulating in print, or in forums like this?

                                                          My great-great grandfather, Frank Soward, was married to a Native American woman who was part Pawnee, part Mohawk, and part Cherokee -- presumably of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma.

                                                          Jeff


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