Re: 2 ski hill iPhotos
- Hey Ted, thanks and you now have my complete atention.
Regarding the lead mines dubbed "The Mines of Spain" I didn't know about... Hoeh lists one Huari Titu Capac as the 83rd ruler from -- 225
If I'm not mistaken this is 225 bce and the name of a Spanish King in Spain perhaps under the Jewish Dynasty on the Rhine in relation to:
Who Was Who in the Huari Empire
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Ted Sojka <tedsojka@...> wrote:
> If your not interested in history please ignore.
> Dear Kevin, etal
> Thanks again for the photos of the angled mounded earth near Grayling,
> MI. I attach one of them for other readers of the AWS site.
> Pardon the poor quality of my pictures, my wife and I skied out to
> the closed ski hill here in Decorah, IA to take them on not so clear a
> day. We were managers of Nor-ski Runs back in the seventies. At
> the top of the hill are also bull dozed depressions where they
> borrowed fill from to make some changes in the tow path. They also
> plowed snow into the basin formed, from an adjoining field to use
> when the snow got thin. We did not have a snow making machine. We
> shoveled the snow by hand onto the tow path from our Thiokol snow
> I really hope you find that your site is a mound, but all that I have
> talked to say the same as your archeologist there, as far as location
> for the mound building culture not being that far North. The Au Sable
> is one of those river that transports the mind back into previous
> times. Truly beautiful from kayak or canoe.
> Most of our mounds were mentioned in the 1840's when the first
> surveyors came through to plat out the country. The French had been
> here for many years and before them even the Spanish this far North.
> In Dubuque we have the site called, "The Mines of Spain", state
> park. I have seen the lead site on line with pictures from their
> visitor center of fist nation miners working the galena out of the
> cliffs, and later lead miners who bought the site from the natives to
> make lead shot. It is said Julien Dubuque used the cliffs to pour
> molten lead in a primitive shot tower to make musket balls. A shot
> tower was built later on in the city of Dubuque. This area came to be
> part of the US after the Louisiana purchase. At Prairie du Chien in
> Wisconsin, a treaty was signed in 1825, by several native tribes with
> the US establishing territories to decrease the fighting to enhance
> trade. Surveying was needed and done after that time. Continued
> fighting meant no trade would be done. A Neutral Zone like the DMZ
> between North and South Koreas was created between tribes. It was
> made clear that the English in Canada could no longer be relied on for
> trade in this area. After the War of 1812, events in Michigan proved
> this to the Natives. Promises of guns and support for the natives
> never came from the North.
> It amazes me that Black Hawk could take 500 warriors and travel to the
> Detroit area for battle. No rest stops along the interstate in those
> days. This was before horses were plentiful in this part of the
> country in the late 1700's. Further West tribes that the Sac and Fox
> traded with had horses, and Black Hawk had a fine one that he is
> portrayed mounted on by painters who were there at the 1925 treaty
> signings. Great book called "Twilight of Empire" that was written
> about this time period. Black Hawks biography is also a great
> source. After his surrender he was invited to the White House by
> Andrew Jackson and treated like a head of state by the old "Indian
> Fighter". A life mask was made at the time and a copy is in the
> museum in Moline, Illinois, at the site of one of the chief's villages.
> The village here in Decorah and burial grounds are down stream about
> two miles from Nor-Ski Run and under the court house and the College
> buildings. When the excavation for a new library on what was the
> baseball field took place, Dr. Mallam of the anthropology department
> was in front of the excavators as much as possible.
> There were surveyors in every area of our country to establish what
> land was being ceded by tribes in exchange for goods. I would look for
> early survey records of your area. The whole of Illinois was marked
> with wooden stakes, much to the curiosity of the first nation
> peoples. One Kickappo chief was told that he did not have to give up
> the staked land until his children's children were old men. The lease
> was a bit shorter, however. This was not an isolated case. My late
> archeologist friend gave up giving talks at local churches after
> hearing rumbling among some in the audience. It was summed up in a
> thick Scandinavian accent, with something like, ..(my grandparents got
> this land fair and square from the government, and it was not stolen
> from Indians". Hard to change some minds on this topic.
> Abraham Lincoln came through the area after the Battle at Stillman's
> Run, along the Rock River. Up river at Prairie du Chien's, Fort
> Crawford there was also a young officer named Jefferson Davis. What
> a spot in History, as also there were famous fellows from the Mexican
> War to come, like Scott,Taylor, and General Atkinson.
> Sorry for the long history, but it is snowing like heck out there and
> mixing with freezing rain. No XC skiing for the retired folk out here.
> A pit and surrounding mound are at the top of this grown over ski run
> on the left.
> Another is at the top of this tow path for the same reason.
> Below is Kevin's photo of the feature at the top of the old ski area
> near Grayling Michigan which inspired this e mail.