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  • james m clark jr
    Also deleted The Danish History, Books I-IX in Links and added it to the Online journals and texts Fulltext reference material FOLDER be well, jamey
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      Also deleted The Danish History, Books I-IX in "Links" and added it to
      the "Online journals and texts" Fulltext reference material FOLDER

      be well,
      jamey

      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "james m clark jr" <jameyboy@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hey Susan, all,
      >
      > I added the new link. It's one of those google books that was digitally decifered by the public through the goofy letter reconition
      > program every time we fill out registration forms, accounts, emails, etcetera. So far I've found to be rather enjoiable and it does seem to present to a degree an archaeological nature and other related sciences.
      >
      >
      > I listed the link as a TEMP link in the full text folder or "Online journals and texts". I've only read about 2 dozen pages and so far it seems to basically be a book on lingustics regarding the Celtic tounge that could be considered a Harvard classic now. So far I've found to be enjoiable and easy to read.
      >
      > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/links/Online_journals_and_texts_001267634731/
      >
      > An essay on the Druids, the ancient churches and the round towers of Ireland pub.1873
      >
      >
      > http://books.google.com/books?id=DH4HAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Druids+ancient+churches,+round+towers+of+.&source=bl&ots=ddh0dDsG9u&sig=xmYivVIlGk7GYKNKKyqkxF3oH7s&hl=en&ei=TNQdTcf2F8innQeN-rChDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CB0Q6
      >
      > be well,
      > jamey
      >
      > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <beldingenglish@> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > Another new Link was added. It seems to be a YahooGroup flaw, but does
      > > anyone know how to readily find new files without having to do a lot of
      > > digging? Clicking 2 New Links </group/ancient_waterways_society/links>
      > > give us this:
      > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/links
      > > <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/links> ,
      > > hence why it is best that folks Post when adding items to the main
      > > Links, etc.
      > >
      > > Rick and All, Re: your upcoming expedition and exploration of Rock
      > > Lake, I am going to throw a few more links your way, and to the group
      > > to clarify the persons you mentioned. A member here whose research
      > > this group was basically named after that many of you know is retired
      > > professor, Dr. Jim Scherz, who was or is the head researcher for the
      > > Rock Lake Research Society which was active during the 1980's:
      > > http://www.rocklakeresearch.com/team.htm
      > > <http://www.rocklakeresearch.com/team.htm> Members from that
      > > area of Wisconsin: Steve Steigerwald, Dave Weier, or Larry Johns (who
      > > gave an excellent tour of sacred sites and effigy mounds in Madison,
      > > Wisconsin a few years back) may know more about whether that group or
      > > individual members are still active in their investigations of the Rock
      > > Lake anomalies. Frank Joseph mentioned in the posts is the author of
      > > Lost Pyramids of Rock Lake and Atlantis in Wisconsin which is part of
      > > our Ancient Waterways Society loaner library. Anyone looking for
      > > 'winter reading', feel free to email this group or me and I will send it
      > > to you Media Mail. You may then send it to the next person who contacts
      > > you, me, or via a Post; just so I have an idea where the books are and
      > > that they eventually get returned to my address. Judi Rudebusch emailed
      > > me a request this week after researcher Jay Wakefield was mentioned.
      > > Jay generously donated to me/our group two of the books he co-authored
      > > with author Dr. Reinoud M. DeJong: How the Sungod Reached America c.
      > > 2500 B. C. -A Guide to Megalithic Sites: http://www.howthesungod.com/
      > > <http://www.howthesungod.com/> Rocks and Rows, Sailing Routs Across
      > > the Atlantic and the Copper Trade A Study of Bronze Age Petroglyphs,
      > > Stone Circle and Row Monuments (I see reviews from a couple of our
      > > members): http://www.rocksandrows.com/ <http://www.rocksandrows.com/>
      > > Something I ran across awhile back I've not brought up before is from a
      > > diving group planning an investigation of Rock Lake a few years
      > > ago...I've never heard this before, nor of course can verify it, but
      > > this may be worth looking into: ....Rock Lake, and its central key
      > > stuctures, lies at a most unusual location. IF one uses the Great
      > > Pyramid of Giza as the Prime Meridian as many ancient cultures did, Rock
      > > Lake lies at 90 degrees lat, AND, if one figures the age of the Indian
      > > myths (the books go into greater detail), it would place its
      > > construction at the time in which the north pole was located within the
      > > Hudson bay, giving Rock Lake a long of 72 degrees. Rock Lake is a
      > > geographical marker, 1/3 distance around the globe lat, 1/5 distance
      > > around the globe long.
      > >
      > > These findings were verified by someone whom I contacted and interviewed
      > > for ATS a couple years back, author Rand Flem-Ath, proponent of the
      > > gloabl crust displacement theory....
      > > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321950/pg1
      > > <http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321950/pg1> Rick also
      > > mentioned working with Mary Sutherland and Burlington, Wisconsin. She
      > > is a recent Facebook Friend and I do need to spend a weekend down there
      > > at the Burlington Mounds (and do some serious networking at the eclectic
      > > cafe downtown). This site has many links and gives an idea of the
      > > extensive work and outreach of Mary and her research groups. Link
      > > includes their annual October conference which Rick and Frank have done
      > > presentations (Jenifer from Lower Michigan- take note of this for future
      > > reference): http://www.livinginthelightms.com/ancientwisconsin.html
      > > <http://www.livinginthelightms.com/ancientwisconsin.html> I don't
      > > know if they have work-shares to waive conference fees, but that might
      > > be a fine place for members of this group to meet if you cannot make it
      > > to the annual September Ancient Artifact Preservation Society
      > > conferences in Marquette. Rememer that my little house overlooking a
      > > Wisconsin River parkway is available for an overnight for members
      > > passing through C. Wisconsin (Wausau). For those of you needing a
      > > visual of some of these areas in Wisconsin, member Brad Olson (San
      > > Francisco) has a helpful diagrammatic map in one of the books he has
      > > written and illustrated. All of his books you may access online free
      > > via GoogleBooks. From Sacred Places North America-108 Destinations:
      > > http://books.google.com/books?id=l4hTCuby90IC&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=rock\
      > > +lake+lake+mills,+wi+mysterious&source=bl&ots=QVjcL5DOs2&sig=3c_VcDYrGNg\
      > > 3xMypU0xahjXsk8w&hl=en&ei=0irRSo7TE4f-Maqu_JQD&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=re\
      > > sult&resnum=4&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
      > > <http://books.google.com/books?id=l4hTCuby90IC&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=roc\
      > > k+lake+lake+mills,+wi+mysterious&source=bl&ots=QVjcL5DOs2&sig=3c_VcDYrGN\
      > > g3xMypU0xahjXsk8w&hl=en&ei=0irRSo7TE4f-Maqu_JQD&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=r\
      > > esult&resnum=4&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false> Table of Contents
      > > begins on P. 3, which you may type into the window or click Contents top
      > > of the page. As I believe was more often than not the case among
      > > ancient, globally 'diffusing' peoples, there is too much of generosity
      > > of spirit, sharing, and opportunities that can happen within
      > > non-competitive, cooperative groups, and we are one. I have never been
      > > to the Grand Canyon and would love someday to take up Lonnie Clark's
      > > offer for a tour. Or join native Marti- iyeshkah
      > > <http://profiles.yahoo.com/iyeshkah> from North Central Washington
      > > State at a flea market and perhaps visit to some of the beautiful sacred
      > > scenery her exquisite photography reveals:
      > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/iyeshkah/
      > > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/iyeshkah/> Maybe some of us will come
      > > together for a day or few down at Rick's in S. Indiana, or Aztalan,
      > > Cahokia w/Vince, or a tour of the Serpent Mound in Ohio with Ross
      > > Hamilton leading the way. Happiness and prosperity to you all in
      > > 2011.....Susan
      > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Rick O" <ozman@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hi Susan,
      > > >
      > > > Well, the upcoming Rock Lake expedition is not so much a group
      > > activity
      > > > as it is a revisit. Frank Joseph, Mary Sutherland, and a couple other
      > > > folks spotted one of the submerged structures on underwater video last
      > > > spring. On the upcoming outing, with luck, we'll get recorded video of
      > > > the same feature (in their excitement, nobody pushed the big red
      > > > button). I hope to go along to document the trip as well as the find.
      > > I
      > > > own the perfect boat for such an outing, but it's too big to trailer
      > > up
      > > > there and the engine is on the fritz right now, so we're looking to
      > > > another small group of investigators who are equipped for it.
      > > >
      > > > However, a group tour with Steve at the museum and surrounds would be
      > > a
      > > > worthy activity if we could coordinate it. Something like the outing
      > > to
      > > > Eagle Harbor a couple years ago...before the total economic meltdown.
      > > If
      > > > it could coincide with the Rock Lake trip... well, several of us have
      > > > new info to convey much as we did in Michigan (hint to Vince). I'm
      > > > confident Mary would be interested in hosting the presentations at her
      > > > cafe in Burlington.
      > > >
      > > > Failing organizing for Burlington or Lake Mills, perhaps we could set
      > > up
      > > > something for here, as we've discussed in the past. We're about due
      > > for
      > > > another get together. The waterways and natural resources here are of
      > > > great significance to understanding the ancient population movements.
      > > > And the hill I'm on was one of several sites in an integrated
      > > > line-of-sight communications array across present day southern Indiana
      > > > from the Ohio river at Louisville / Jeffersonville to Merom on the
      > > > Wabash. A span of about 150 miles overland, but almost 350 miles by
      > > > river.
      > > >
      > > > Oz
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"
      > > > beldingenglish@ wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Rick, Your mention of an upcoming group tour of Aztalan with member
      > > > > Steve Steigerwald is the first I have heard of it; must be with
      > > > another
      > > > > group. If the event is an open one, perhaps you might Post specific
      > > > > details in advance and maybe a few from this group will want to
      > > > attend.
      > > > > For new members here, Steve S. is webmaster of the Aztalan Mounds
      > > > State
      > > > > Park located a mile or two from Lake Mills, Wisconsin (17 miles east
      > > > of
      > > > > the state capital of Madison). The books Pyramids of Rock Lake and
      > > > > Atlantis in Wisconsin based from that area's ancient sites and
      > > > legends.
      > > > > I spent a great deal of time down there a decade or so ago. Vince
      > > > > Thank you for adding the Cahokia Mounds article by Glenn Hodges
      > > > > ("American's Forgotton City") from the January, 2011 issue of
      > > National
      > > > > Geographic to the Mound Builders Sites Link. I appreciate the
      > > > author's
      > > > > straight-forwardness and that the first sentence reads, "If they
      > > ever
      > > > > build a Wal-Mart at Machu Picchu, I will think of Collinsille Road"
      > > > > http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/01/cahokia/hodges-text/1
      > > > > <http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/01/cahokia/hodges-text/1>
      > > > > Also very interesting is the inscribed stone left side of the first
      > > > > page...looks similar to stones from the alleged cave near the
      > > > Embarrass
      > > > > & Wabash Rivers in Southern Illinois. [Stone Tablet] Steve
      > > > > Steigerwald is an excellent person to lead a fine tour of the
      > > Aztalan
      > > > > Mounds and Museum, as would you be of the Cahokia Mounds, Vince. If
      > > > > you would welcome tag-alongs, please let this group know sometime if
      > > > > planning to spend time at Cahokia during a future trip home to St.
      > > > > Louis, Missouri. Maybe one or a few members would beable to make a
      > > > trip
      > > > > to Missouri. Thanks, Frode for posting the pre-holiday chuckle, from
      > > > > Norway. Please update us sometime on current work, schooling, etc.
      > > > > Good hearing from you again, Jeff ( quarefremeru...
      > > > > <http://profiles.yahoo.com/quarefremeruntgentes7> ). I like your
      > > > > choice of a photo and am still trying to guess your approximate
      > > > > locality..." N. of Lat. 1 deg." , also located on your Yahoogroup
      > > > > Profile page.
      > > > > Lonnie Clark, I greatly appreciated your introduction (Post #1962),
      > > > > artistic interests & web site, and how you got interested in ancient
      > > > > history. Thanks for the generous open invitation to this group:
      > > > I'm
      > > > > not too far from the location of the rumored Egyptian relics found
      > > by
      > > > > G.E.Kincaid http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_orionzone_9.htm
      > > > > <http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_orionzone_9.htm> , so if any
      > > of
      > > > > my fellow list members want to drop by and go hiking in the Grand
      > > > > Canyon....Susan
      > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Vince"
      > > > > v_barrows@ wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Susan;
      > > > > > The new link for the group is to a National Geographic Article in
      > > > this
      > > > > month's issue about Cahokia Mounds. The link is located in the group
      > > > > files at the following location:
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ancient_waterways_society/links/Mound\
      > > \
      > > > \
      > > > > _Builders_Sites_001107167015/
      > > > > >
      > > > > > National Geographic has captured the current state of
      > > > archaeologist's
      > > > > view of Cahokia Mounds. It is a nice follow up to Steve's
      > > > correspondence
      > > > > on the Cahokia Site.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > "perhaps it's this cognitive dissonance that has led us to
      > > > > collectively ignore Cahokia's very existence."
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Vince
      > > > > > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"
      > > > > beldingenglish@ wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Welcome to the new member with screen name recovery7@
      > > > > > > <http://us.mc394.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=recovery7@
      > > > > > > If no Yahoo profile information is available, the host/co-hosts
      > > > here
      > > > > > > often cannot tell by a screen name alone whether or not a new
      > > > member
      > > > > is
      > > > > > > legitimate or a Spamme....and, as you all know, we get a few of
      > > > the
      > > > > > > latter. If any of our newcomers (or existing members) would like
      > > a
      > > > > > > welcome letter emailed to you, please email me a brief message,
      > > > or,
      > > > > feel
      > > > > > > free to post an introduction directly to the group. The letter
      > > has
      > > > a
      > > > > > > few helpful suggestions and lists a number of Ancient Waterways
      > > > > members
      > > > > > > who are OK about sharing their general geographical locations
      > > (or
      > > > > > > nearest ancient waterway), personal or research interests/links,
      > > > > > > conferences and groups related to old or ancient global
      > > waterways,
      > > > > > > navigation, intercontinental diffusion, etc. I see someone has
      > > > > posted
      > > > > > > a 1 New Link , but I've not yet located it. Thanks to the
      > > sendor.
      > > > > We'd
      > > > > > > appreciate a post as to the title of the new submission. I
      > > > received
      > > > > > > the following yesterday about upcoming conferences in Germany
      > > > titled
      > > > > > > "Four Researchers Who Forever Changed the World of the Pyramids"
      > > > > that
      > > > > > > will probably be presenting in other areas of the world:
      > > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > http://www.piramidasunca.ba/en/index.php/FOUR-RESEARCHERS-WHO-FOREVER-CH\
      > > \
      > > > \
      > > > > \
      > > > > > > ANGED-THE-WORLD-OF-THE-PYRAMIDS.html
      > > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > <http://www.piramidasunca.ba/en/index.php/FOUR-RESEARCHERS-WHO-FOREVER-C\
      > > \
      > > > \
      > > > > \
      > > > > > > HANGED-THE-WORLD-OF-THE-PYRAMIDS.html> Included are two
      > > > researchers
      > > > > > > known by a number of members here. The first is Christopher Dunn
      > > > > from
      > > > > > > Illiniois (and Manchester, England) whose expertise on ancient
      > > > > machining
      > > > > > > is unparalled and puts him frequently within television
      > > > > documentaries.
      > > > > > > His web site is: http://www.gizapower.com/
      > > > > <http://www.gizapower.com/>
      > > > > > > (Click "Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt" YouTube bottom of
      > > the
      > > > > page)
      > > > > > > Chris drove over to speak at the 2008 MIdwestern
      > > > > Epigraphic/AAPS/THOR
      > > > > > > conference in N. Ohio. Several AWS members attended or were
      > > active
      > > > > > > participants in the conference. Another of the four researchers
      > > is
      > > > > > > DR. SAM OSMANAGICH (Bosnia-Herzegovina) who has traveled from
      > > > Bosnia
      > > > > to
      > > > > > > Marquette, Michigan at least twice to speak at the annual
      > > Ancient
      > > > > > > Artifact Preservation Society/AAPS conferences. A number of AAPS
      > > > > board
      > > > > > > members and friends will be traveling to Bosnia to work with Dr.
      > > > > > > Osmanagich this spring. (Rick, are you among those flying over
      > > > > there?)
      > > > > > > AAPS secretary Judy Johnson recently sent the following 12/04/10
      > > > > note
      > > > > > > about the research team's latest development and possiblities
      > > for
      > > > > our
      > > > > > > friends traveling there: Dear colleague,
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Six years after our archaeological work started in uderground
      > > > > labyrinth,
      > > > > > > we finally made a breakthrough: we discovered an open tunnel
      > > > section
      > > > > > > that goes for hundreds of meters in direction of the Bosnian
      > > > Pyramid
      > > > > of
      > > > > > > the Sun... It will save us years of hard work.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Best regards,
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Dr.sci. Sam Semir Osmanagich
      > > > > > > Foreign Member of the Russian
      > > > > > > Academy of Natural Sciences
      > > > > > > www.samosmanagich.com <http://www.samosmanagich.com/>
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Again, welcome to all of the new members who joined this month.
      > > > > Please
      > > > > > > feel free to introduce yourselves. This group would enjoy
      > > hearing
      > > > > about
      > > > > > > ancient and early historic navigation and diffusion via
      > > waterways
      > > > > and
      > > > > > > archaelogical sites located in your parts of the world, your
      > > > related
      > > > > > > interests. And please let us know of upcoming movies, TV
      > > > > documentaries,
      > > > > > > field trips, meetings, and conferences and whether you will be
      > > > > attending
      > > > > > > and/or speaking or participating. Perhaps with advanced notice,
      > > > some
      > > > > of
      > > > > > > us might link up with a few other members at one or more events
      > > in
      > > > > 2011.
      > > > > > > To all who have contributed posts, links, been supportive of
      > > other
      > > > > > > members' efforts here the past year, we extend our appreciation.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Respectfully, from one of the co-hosts
      > > > > > > M. Susan English A follower of the Sound Healers Association, I
      > > > > > > include here a bit of 'water music' from a favorite overtones
      > > > > composer,
      > > > > > > David Hykes, during the closing ceremony of the Hudson River
      > > > Pageant
      > > > > > > Boat Dance & Harmonic Chant Concert last yea---an effort to
      > > > restore
      > > > > the
      > > > > > > Hudson River: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jik2Syak3Y0
      > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jik2Syak3Y0>
      > > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
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