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  • Susan
    ... From: SuzEnglish@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:34 AM Norm, May I put the following from your letter into a Post to the AWS group to introduce you?
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      A little more on Norm that I forgot to enclose:
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: SuzEnglish@...
      Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:34 AM

      Norm,
      May I put the following from your letter into a Post to the AWS group
      to introduce you? I can see where you might really enjoy a future
      AAAPF conference I and others are hoping will be in S. Illinois or
      Indiana area, with Kentucky, Tenn, Ohio, Ind,. Illinois/Cahokia
      groups and reseachers heavily involved.'

      "I do not have a degree in Geology Sue, just 52+ Credit hours in the
      field; mainly in Stratigraphy and Paleontology with a focus back in
      the 60's on the Geology of Kentucky, Southern Indiana and Ohio.
      Later efforts focused on Structural and Field Geology related to the
      Teton's of Jackson Hole, Wyoming and the surrounding geography. It
      is still a subject of intense interest and over the last year have
      reconnected with my primary professer; Dr. James E. Conkin,
      University of Louisville. He is now in his mid-eighties and is still
      wonderfully active and literaturely productive, passing on his
      publications to me on a regular basis."

      Member of web groups don't respond to each other's credentials, but I
      do know many make 'mental notes' of people's backgrounds or web sites
      when various areas of research start coming together...

      Am just in the middle of a lengthy letter to an acquaintence,
      Christopher Dunn, whom I have corresponded on and off for several
      years. Need to finish reading his Giza Power Plant book. He has
      done work in Ohio which will be fascinating. Bigtime work with the
      mysteries of Coral Castle and its builder. Met Chris at a World
      Exploreres Club confernce at David Hatcher Childress' hometown in
      Central Illinois farmtown. Combination Scientce, Metaphysics,
      goodtime humor, and fun. David HC will get involved in a future
      conference if researchers get to know him. He has a fun Adventures
      Unlimited bookstore in C. Illinois, allows one free nigth in his
      clubhouse home in the little town of Kempton when one pays the $25
      year membership, which I haven't for a while. But he is also on the
      Great Pyramid of Giza Research association with Dunn, Mehler, Dr.
      John Salvo, Graham Hanconck, Schoch the geologist, etc. Very
      accessible, easy to know, enjoy informal get-togethers which will
      help further their deepest humanitarian efforts within the realms of
      science and sound metaphysics.

      Susan


      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"
      <beldingenglish@...> wrote:
      >
      > Ancient Waterways Society members,
      >
      > Nice group, seventeen...keeps it cordial, not too big, easier to
      get
      > to know each other and background, in lieu of our common research
      > interests here.
      >
      > I wish to mention I spoke a couple of days ago with Marquette
      > historian, Fred Rydholm, educator, former mayor of Marquette, MI.
      > He'd read Chris Dunn's book, sees possible ancient
      > technology/machining, unprecedented "tempered" copper toolmaking as
      > possibilites to consider with the hundreds of thousands of tons (or
      > more) of copper that went out of the Upper Midwest in ancient and
      > very early historic periods before the 1800's mining began. All
      > mines started where 'aboriginal pits' left off, so little remains
      > except stone tools, hammers, etc.
      > Fred was meeting this week with environmentalist/turbine expert?
      > Peter Ketterbein of Qiebec, whose mentor is Buckminster Fuller...
      > Years ago I met Peter through Fred and have set up a couple of
      > impromptu 'ancient waterways mini mieetings' at a sacred site,
      > possible energy 'vortex' behind a rock shop with a couple of
      Michigan
      > Tech University professors near Allouez, MI in Keeweenaw.
      > Fred said he and Peter were going to Duluth to meet Dr. Chuck
      Bailey
      > of Minnesota who has spent years or decades working on something
      > called the Jeffers Site. Chuck has called a few times inquiring of
      > other investigators/professor's phone numbers or emails. Lost
      track
      > of him. Hoped he would talk at conferences, etc. So, probably as
      this
      > post goes out, three very interesting, amicable friends are sitting
      > at a coffeehaus somewhere bringing in the very diverse but related
      > research work each has been involved with for decades....
      > __________
      > Introducing Norm, who also knows Fred Ryhdolm from conferences:
      >
      > I have enjoyed corresponding with Norm Thomas, and he was kind
      enough
      > to sign on and become a member here with all of us. It is my hope
      no
      > one ever feel pressure to post directly to the web group. Many
      people
      > send personal correspondence to members re: specific items of
      > interest. And if I talk too much, please let me know it in a
      personal
      > post.
      >
      > I am enclosing two of Norm's letters, with his permission in the
      > second one, from March 26th. The first letter (3/19/07), Norm is
      > responding to a post I sent re: the American Antiquities JSTOR
      > article about 3000-5000+ year old ancient mining done in Mammouth
      and
      > Tenn-Ky caves that I have been obsessed with. It started after I
      > began exploring the web re: Tenn-Kentucky geology, waterways, cave
      > data after Jamey started fielding exerpts of Melissa's letters to
      > PreColumbian Inscriptions about the Highland Rim. I know little of
      > that area of the country and historical changes in geology,
      waterways.
      >
      > 3/19/07 "Good Evening Suz,
      >
      > Sorry, I don't have access to JSTOR. I wish I did. I have tried in
      > the past to access their resources but always without success. My
      > old professor, Dr. Conkin, unfortunately doesn't e-mail. I don't
      > think he is even connected to the internet. So he can not help us
      in
      > that area. Even though he continues to do field work, research,
      and
      > write, he is also retired from the University being in his mid-
      > eighties and, I am told, doesn't have access to the web.
      >
      > If you are interested in Caves or Caving, however, I can hook you
      up
      > with a multitude of resources since I have been a caver for the
      last
      > 40 years and am still a member of the National Speleological
      Society
      > and last September had a 3 page "Trip Report" in the form of an
      Epic
      > Poem published in The NSS News, our international caving journal.
      I
      > am also still a member of the Louisville Grotto; a local regional
      > caving group that I first joined back in 1967 and, for whom I have
      > just completed a two page almost Epic length poem for insertion as
      an
      > Introduction into their Annual Speleofest Guidebook as part of the
      > package for their conference attendees on Memorial Day weekend.
      > Additionally Suz, many of my old caving buddies from the 60's are
      > still active and are now the owners of some major cave sites in
      both
      > Kentucky and Southern Indiana. The last time I went caving was
      last
      > August in Southern Indiana. I had a phenomenal trip and reunioned
      > with a bunch of old caving friends. I am scheduled to go caving
      > again the first weekend in May.
      >
      > Native American relics in a variety of forms show up fairly
      > frequently during caving experiences. I have even seen an example
      > of "The PreHistoric Native American Art of Mud Glyph's (Cave)"
      > (Edited by Charles H. Faulkner), in a wild cave that I was
      exploring
      > with my oldest daughter and friends back in the early 90's in
      > Kentucky, South of Mammoth Cave National Park about 25 miles.
      >
      > The link below is a book site that might provide you with some
      > information that will perhaps lead to the source of some answers
      for
      > you. I just located an old 1987 catalog from the University of
      > Tennessee Press in my library and is one of things that prompted
      this
      > link. Hope it helps a bit.
      >
      > Best regards,
      >
      > Norm
      > http://utpress.org/browse/list.php?
      > skipSize=0&catsummed=Anthropology,%20Archaeology%20and%20Sociology
      >
      > 3/26/07 "Good Morning Suz,
      >
      > Yes, you may do whatever you feel is necessary with the info. Know
      > also, that I have personally met David Hatcher Childress, and his
      > mother, who runs his bookstore in Cottonwood, AZ; This was in
      > February of "04" in Sedona, AZ while we were both participants and
      > he, also a vendor, at the first International Sacred Geometry
      > Conference. I was a member of the World Explorer's Club when he
      > first started it back in the 60's or 70's but for only for a short
      > time. I have been aware of your contacts with the group via your
      > past messages and have been motivated as a result of your notes to
      re-
      > enlist with the group and, hopefully then, participate in future
      > gatherings at Kempton. Let me know when you become aware of an
      event
      > there. Thank you.
      >
      > Have a good day,
      >
      > Norm"
      >
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