Re: Note the "Links" link on the left side of this page & Welcome Nathan
- Ancient Waterways Society,
Thank you, Stan for addl. information re: "Links"---permanent group
links and exerpts of web links or more temporary ones which many of
us leave within messages, yet hopefully can later resurrect, i.e.,
reference as "AWS Post #__" along with www link for interconnecting
to later posts here or other web groups. If anyone at any Yahoogroup
is doing a particular search, members and onlookers may
click "Messages", then Search by post #, topic, or member name for
previous posts at each group.
Welcome also to new member Nate, who I believe some here know from
PreColumbian Inscriptions (a PI member, I have been unable to access
the "Membership" list at that site). I believe you'd inquired years
ago if I knew of a Lake Superior source of raw copper for work you
are engaged in. I visit rock shops regularly, hope you were able to
personally visit the Keweenaw Peninsula...
Herb...glad to see you have placed your two fine web sites under
Links: "Ancient Copper Mines of NW Wisconsin" and "Ancient Waterway:
Totogatic River". Herb joined last week, as did Norm, Marti, and
others. Previous members I may have missed greeting personally or
acknowledged the additions of photos, etc. I was even less computer-
proficient, didn't know when people joined web groups, added links,
photos, etc. So, anyone at this web site see things we might miss and
wish to encourage or acknowledge the work of 'fellow' members here,
please feel free. This is your group, as well as we who host/co-host
Dr. Jim Scherz, retired engineering prof from UW Madison has spent
decades surveying ancient earthwork sites in WI, OH, MN, IL, IA, and
elsewhere (much of it unpublished). writes proficiently but often
seemed to have PC problems. Was in town here yesterday visiting a
mutual friend, stopped here at my little bungalow resting along a
high bank paralleling "Sturgeon Eddy Road" to view online for AAAPF
contact info re: his 'possible talk' at the October AAAPF/MES/Thor
conference. Many may have forgotten Dr. Scherz was a main founder and
drew up bylaws, elections of officers, was on the original board,
etc. I know because I was present at meetings and member/catalyst of
prior groups which became AAAPF. By preference, I am a
background/support person, which is not a wimpy position. Jim hasn'tt
attended any of the conferences of the AAAPF group. We both felt
board members at that time should be from the "UP". Now, the group is
expanded to include fine groups from all over the country, and
several countries. The Ohio conference is to be in Ohio; next year I
was pushing for Cahokia, now am hearing people who could put in time
and effort to perhaps have it in Indiana...Oz, you mentioned the
area...Vincennes?, is that it? If you have time, let us know some of
its historic and ancient background, waterways, and changes, if any
through the millinnea that neck of the woods.
I put Dr. Scherz online again at our Ancient Waterways site here
again yesterday because of his interest in this group and "Ancient
Waterways Society" group title which I partically give him credit for
inspiring. Showed him several AWS letters, which he was enthused
over; very much seemed to enjoy Herb's Wisconsin waterway sites, and
other sites from members here. When there is time, he will view more.
Many researchers with whom I am long associated do not correspond via
the Internet, and I stopped nagging about it. Dr. Scherz commented
months ago Ancient Waterways Society would be a fine group for
persons to insert research papers. He offered his "Old Water Levels
and Old Waterways..." paper, but many hard copies are floating around
plus are for sale via Ancient American Magazine bookstore. With
Jim's permission several months ago, I typed out a chapter to include
within posts to Ancient Waterways and PreColumbian Inscriptions. One
is PI #9640:
Perhaps her will do a second, similar paper from cooperative work
many of you are doing here on waterways throughout the ancient Great
Lakes-Mississippi Riverways and transcontinental ports beyond. Plus,
many of you here may be very helpful with insights on rivers, ocean
ports/passages, lakes, former riverways at other areas of the
continent(s). I have an absolutely staggering photo I found in a
Jonathon Carver Internet book found a while back on huge St.
Anthony's waterfall in downtown St. Paul, only a couple of hundred
years ago, which is not 'ancient' but historic. Hence, why
anthropologists, geologists, historians are turning to old
references, photos, the insights and archives of lay researchers in
order to "re-think:, re--write, and fill in many of the gaps
and 'missing links' within N. American recent history. Our ancient
history may also be accessed cooperatively as such.
I and others here are not the only ones who feel much can be gained
by re-examining the ancient past via ancient waterways, geologic and
climactic changes, possible catastrophic events in ancient and more
recent times. A good example was last night's NOVA TV program on the
catastrophic flood/deluge which drastically altered the "Scablands"
in NE part of the United States only 15,000 year ago, probably not
far from the lands where member Marti roams.
One other thing re: any of you who wish to share more general
information about who you are, where you are from ,etc....Yahoogroup
members only may click "Members" and view Profiles. If there is time
one of these days, I may comment further on some of the profiles,
photos, etc, here as I did Marti's wonderful slides shows of
wilderness areas, petroglyphs, etc. Another profile: take a look at
the gorgeous vertical drop to the river below Nova Scotia member,
Terry's profile photo. If any of you wish to add further information
in your Yahoo Profiles with generalities about where you live, etc.,
members may Edit Profile Information.
Once again, no one need feel pressured to post here. Several groups
I 'follow' from time to time with much interest, but do not write
messages. If anyone has comments or suggestions, please feel to let
us know as a group, or email host/founder MinnesotaStan, or
myself/cohost who ran around all by her lonesome using a borrowed
term "ancient waterways" and added society as a way to try to link
people through time, across culture and other boundaries...to our
common, very ancient past.
Thank you for making a Society which was once One, a very interesting
and viable group of researchers, correspondants, and viewers within a
few short years. And Stan for setting it up. Over time, I believe
fine discoveries will come about through this coopertive work with
professional and well-traveled avocational seekers and researchers.
--- In email@example.com, "minnesotastan"
> When I set up this Yahoo group in late 2004, I placed a few links
> a few folders in the "Links" section (which you can access from theread
> blue link at the left of this page).
> This is the place for EVERYONE to place links you want others to
> or notice or refer to. I note our new contributors are adding linkscan
> to their messages, but not to the permanent links list.
> My thought would be that if a link is just a transient thing, esp re
> news, or only applies to a discussion that will soon fade away, it
> be left in the message and not stored for future use. But somelinks
> have lasting value.Wisconsin).
> For example, I want to thank Susan for posting this link last week -
> It takes you to an online e-book (Lapham's Antiquities of
> This is a classic (and classy) work from 1855 detailing informationfull
> especially about ancient earthworks. I hadn't realized that the
> text (and line drawings) was online. So thank you, Susan, for
> bringing that to everyone's attention.
> I've put that link into our links section, in the folder on mound
> I think when I set up this website I created permissions so that any
> member can post links in the Links section - so feel free to do so
> (and create folders as needed to keep things organized).