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links: Copper Country Petroglyphs & (Bartholomew) "Two California Ogam Stones"

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  • Susan
    Thank you for the fine introduction, Laura. Again, very glad to have you here. All, During the last part of the Atlantic Conference 09 dialogue when Rick was
    Message 1 of 4 , Oct 12 11:09 AM

      Thank you for the fine introduction, Laura.  Again, very glad to have you here.

      All, During the last part of the Atlantic Conference '09 dialogue when Rick was speaking and Lee Pennington phoned in,  I put into the Chat Room the link to member Robert Wheeler's Copper Country Petroglyph Conservancy-AAPS Conf '09 web site w/nine Powerpoint slides.  They include two inscriptions from the Houghton, MI site as well as the one near Copper Harbor shown on the two hour "Holy Grail...." History Channel documentary (coming up again twice during the daytime, October 14th).

      The web site appears to be a cooperative effort by Robert Wheeler and designed by artist & AAPS officer, Judy Johnson.  I discovered it accidently when searching the Net for details about the new conservancy for an interested conference attendee in the chat room.  Lee Pennington, who has been to all of the sites said this AM that he too has not seen this wonderful site w/slideshow and is looking forward to seeing it:

      Copper Country Petroglyphs - A Proposal to Preserve Them", by Bob Wheeler: http://www.slideshare.net/JudyMJohnson/wheeler-petroglyphs-conf09 

          I am reinserting a link from an earlier post at the request of nonmember-viewer Pat who emailed me about the March, '05 article in Ancient American Magazine he felt could relate to Lake Superior area inscriptions mentioned at our site.  Robert, Chris, Zena, Lee and others here might see similarities or otherwise find the work of the author interesting:

       "TWO CALIFORNIA OGAM STONES"..  by Steve Bartholomew

      also called Baby Rock/Solstice Rock  (near Clear Lake in Lake County, CA) and fifty miles beyond,  Willits Rock (Pomo Petroglyphs):


      Barthalomew added another link, "Last Word?" http://www.chargedbarticle.org/final_word.htm

      Hopefully not the last word in regard to those sites. Perhaps Chris Patenaude might already have become acquainted with him through the Equinox Project in California, or Zena and others here might wish to invite the author to join this group or the Atlantic Conference to promote further inquiries into his work and our investigations here.

      The Ogham inscriptions within lands of ancient Somo peoples  and other waterway navigators of several millinnea carry countless stories around the area's of  hot springs, 'Shambahala...', sacred waters, even a taboo legendary vibrational spring.   As happened with industrialization and continues to this day,  privatization of lands brought about removal of vast earthworks, stoneworks,  artifacts.  Dams such as the one built to create Lake Sonoma submerged valleys long sacred to ancient Somo, Stone Age and early historic peoples.  What remains are the few sacred and precious stories written in stone.


      --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <beldingenglish@...> wrote:
      > Unable to attend the AAPS conference this weekend in Marquette, MI due
      > to Red Cross training in Milwaukee, I am trying to get up to Robert
      > Wheeler's Copper Country Petroglyph Conservancy tomorrow at 630PM..and
      > to gather artesian water.
      > Robert, here is something of interest:
      > From Ancient American March, 2005 article:
      > http://www.chargedbarticle.org/Two%20Ogams.ht
      > <http://www.chargedbarticle.org/Two%20Ogams.ht>
      > Susan
      > --- In ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"
      > beldingenglish@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Welcome Bob Wheeler from Houghton County, Michigan which lies in the
      > > heart of Upper Peninsula of Michigan's "Copper Country". Below are a
      > > couple of general maps, for those unfamiliar with Houghton and
      > Keweenaw
      > > counties; "Keweenaw" is the Chippewa name for portage, and you can see
      > > the importance of Ancient Portage River/Portage Lake not far from
      > > Robert's property for old copper culture miners, traders, and two-way
      > > navigators from great distances. The thoroughfare and shelter of these
      > > portages were especially important in lieu of the fierce Lake Superior
      > > storms and, for those lagging behind, the sometimes 300+ annual inches
      > > of snow that occasionally falls within that snow belt:
      > > http://www.exploringthenorth.com/keweenaw/map.html
      > > <http://www.exploringthenorth.com/keweenaw/map.html> When comfortable,
      > > Bob, feel free to introduce yourself and perhaps tell us more about
      > > your history of the petroglyphs and what you know about the ancient
      > site
      > > on your property. Members and guests at this site reading recent posts
      > > have seen Bob's intercommunications and photos of petroglyhs
      > w/possibly
      > > Ogham or older inscription from his property (Members here can Click
      > > into our "Photos" section.) In a letter I posted to the group a day or
      > > two ago, Robert offered to show the site to anyone who contacts him.
      > > Many here and at the AAPS conference last week are grateful for the
      > > willingness and time he has extended to share furthering study of this
      > > obviously very significant ancient and sacred place. I forgot the name
      > > for the new research group you are forming the sake of further
      > > collaborative research and preservation of the site, Robert. When in
      > > Houghton, I joined and signed a couple of others on. The site is being
      > > left undisturbed and much effort has been made already to find
      > > archaeologists interested in professional exploration of the site.
      > > During the AAPS field trip several from this group attended several
      > days
      > > ago, I observed something like a raised 'platform' with a number of
      > > rock inscriptions, still covered partially with soil. A small creek
      > > trickles several feet away with one lengthy bank of layers of rocks
      > that
      > > does not look to be natural, nor recent. The terraine shows a once,
      > > much larger riverway system passing through. I believe I heard that
      > > Dr. Susan Martin, assoc. Professor of Archaeology at Michigan Tech
      > > University , (and others) have been to the site and either were not
      > > interested in further investigation or did not have time. Susan's book
      > > from almost a decade ago, is titled: : Wonderful Power: The Story of
      > > Ancient Copper Working in the Lake Superior Basin
      > >
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      > \
      > >
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      > \
      > > X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2
      > >
      > <http://books.google.com/books?id=S3kc_flwYW0C&dq=wonderful+power&prints\
      > \
      > >
      > ec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=6F68eWWe-d&sig=tBNtzh_hgmyeA2BGx4Ql4XwX9rc&h\
      > \
      > > l=en&ei=lXtjSuL1Gd6_tgf-oQQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2>
      > > Susan has some fine documented archaeological data, insights, but is
      > > clearly not a proponent of intercontinental diffusionist inquiry in
      > > connection with ancient copper mining, trade, and navigation, as in
      > > this 2001 article:
      > > http://www.admin.mtu.edu/urel/breaking/2001/miners.html
      > > <http://www.admin.mtu.edu/urel/breaking/2001/miners.html> Most with
      > > whom I have come to know personally within this group seem to find it
      > > works well personally to keep an open mind and incorporate some of the
      > > carefully, scientifically researched data from professional
      > > investigations of ancient cultures and sites. ____________ Robert, I
      > > especially look forward to being part of the new petroglyph research
      > and
      > > site protection group you are forming up there which will undoubtedly
      > > include a wide range of diverse views and research methods. You can
      > > bet that in the next Ancient Waterways Society research gathering in
      > the
      > > Keweenaw Peninsula, the unnamed site Robert Wheeler has opened for
      > > investigation will be a major focal point. More than a year ago (early
      > > May), twenty+ mostly Ancient Waterways members from around the
      > country,
      > > and I mentioned AWS members attending in a previous post. Plus non
      > > members, Jeffers site/Peterboro site researcher/photographer, Chuck
      > > Bailey from Duluth and author Roger Jewell from Pennsylvania. We
      > shared
      > > three or four nights' lodging at a resort along Lake Superior south of
      > > Copper Harbor. Though his illness was already well advanced, Fred
      > > Rydholm did not want to miss the gathering and drove over alone to
      > > attend part of the conference; he was the only person attending from
      > > Michigan. We prepared homecooked meals, held lively breakfast
      > > discussions, formal evening speaker presentations, field trips, and
      > > solitude time spent in the wilds and along the shores. The gathering
      > > was set up around filming of the 'Old Copper Culture" documentary that
      > > members Lee and Joy Pennington are working on. I suspect we will set
      > up
      > > another informal weekend gathering before leaves burst on the trees
      > next
      > > Spring, and your site, Robert, will be a significant focal point. To
      > > the rest of you here...we will again do our best to make it as
      > > affordable as possible, especially for those coming long distances. We
      > > are not talking large conference, but a small Spring symposium again
      > set
      > > up in the heart of the Keweenaw. My small home in the city of Wausau
      > > five hours south of Houghton or six hours from Marquette, is open for
      > > those wishing a meal or couch/bed space a night or two before and
      > after
      > > the AAPS conference. Robert played a major role in setting up and
      > > helping host the very successful AAPS/Ancient Artifact Preservation
      > > Society July conference and field trip last week ago in Houghton. A
      > > Board Member for AAPS, he will also be involved with the upcoming
      > annual
      > > AAPS Fall Conference at the Holiday Inn in Marquette, MI September
      > > (24th?) or 25th-27th. The site lists $135 for the conference fee
      > > w/tables available for those selling related items, books or
      > displaying
      > > collections, etc. Details and list of speakers are forthcoming: [I
      > will
      > > need to camp to keep costs down, so if anyone knows of a remote place
      > > along a river there or Lake Superior...]
      > > http://www.aaapf.org/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=40
      > > <http://www.aaapf.org/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=40> In the photo
      > > top of this link are two Ancient Waterways members: at left, Lee
      > > Pennington (JoLeProductions.com; and at right is Dr. James P. Scherz,
      > > retired UW Madison professor of Engineering. The following 2004
      > article
      > > describes some of his surveying work that Robert and some of you
      > others
      > > here might be interested in....member Larry Johns has worked with Jim
      > > Scherz often formally surveying ancient sites, which oftentimes goes
      > on
      > > not just years at a particular site, but decades. (Dr. Scherz has no
      > > email/computer access, as listed in article):
      > > http://www.engr.wisc.edu/cee/faculty/scherz_james.html
      > > <http://www.engr.wisc.edu/cee/faculty/scherz_james.html> Robert too
      > > does surveying and is a techician fulltime for the Department of
      > Natural
      > > Resources, which lends extensive experience and a solid scientific
      > basis
      > > to research, protection and preservation of this site. For those
      > > planning on attending the upcoming September AAPS conference, you
      > might
      > > want to extend travel plans so as to set up a time to visit the
      > > petroglyph site almost two hours west of Marquette in Houghton County.
      > > Welcome again Robert, and thanks to all of you new members who have
      > > joined in the last few months. My personal appreciation to others here
      > > for greeting newcomers, for assisting with the mutual 'moderating' of
      > > this group, and keeping things interesting at this site. . From my
      > > ancient, intercontinental Great Lakes-MIssissippi Riverway to the
      > > nearest ancient, global waterway nearest you, Susan PS Vince, Stan, I
      > > will be out of town and computer range until early Tues AM, if you
      > want
      > > to keep an eye out for spammers, etc. as we had a couple of days ago.
      > >

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