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Re: [ancient_waterways_society] Chris, the Equinox Project, her articles on Ogham, Desciphering, (petroglyphs)

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  • Chris Patenaude
    Hi, Susan! Thanks for the rave . Yes, i am Co-Director of The Equinox Project (TEP), in an administrative, secretarial, e-mail snagging, Questions Answered
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      Hi, Susan!
      Thanks for the 'rave'.
      Yes, i am Co-Director of The Equinox Project (TEP), in an administrative, secretarial, e-mail snagging, Questions Answered Here, bridging to other researchers and Grand Central Redirection of Questors to more productive hunting areas kinda mode.  The TEP website is completely the work, blood, sweat and tears of our lead Field Director, Roderick Schmidt. All articles at TEP website are authored by Rod, and are basically well researched and written to most recent factoids in anthropology. I've been out to the actual petroglyph site many times, but less these past few yrs what with travel costs far beyond my pocket.
      The Equinox Project site itself rests on the shores of the (now dry) Lake Owens in the heart of the Owens Valley, just south of Lone Pine, CA. (Water guzzling LA has robbed and piped off all the river water that once filled the basin, as it flows off the east side of the Sierra Nevada Mts.)
      This is 'high desert' country. The lake had once been a part of a large network of rivers and streams in the region, which included Death Valley and everything in between. That is, during the Ice Ages and shortly after, when everything was a lot wetter for awhile. As the climate changed, water dwindled, land uplifted further south, and there was no longer any egress for Lake Owens. It swelled to fill the valley, but became more and more saline as the millennia progressed. Finally, it was so salty, only the tiniest of salt-water creatures, mollusks and crustaceans could survive. During even drier epochs, the saltpan completely dried up and there were human habitation sites on the lakebed, clustered around the artesian fresh-springs that emerged from the fault-lines of the Sierras piled up beside the lake.
      Then the lake returned and those Native, neolithic campsites and living zones were reclaimed by the water.
      In the 1920's - 30's etc, Owens Lake was a resort spot and campground area where folks would have their vacation cabins along the west shore, in the shade of the Mountains. Boating, swimming, spa-treatments etc. If you've seen the movie "Holes"... that's it. And the movie was shot on the lakebed to show you what the conditions were a few yrs ago. It was Rod who discovered that there were archaeological sites on the now-drained lakebed to preserve and study. He approached authorities to show the proof and demonstrate the things that should have been studied.
      But no, there had already been a "dust mitigation" project paid for, started and under production that was going to wait for no man, past or present. Scholastic paradigm insisted that the Lake had 'always' been flooded in the past, and so there could not be anything of cultural value to glean. Govt paid archaeologists gave a few passing glances at portions of the empty lakebed and stated there was no archy-interest, go ahead and bulldoze the place. I had been out there on the lakebed myself and garnered some beautiful tools and artifacts from around just one spring. If there had been water in the basin, there would have been no way for the Natives to tell there was a spring to live around. Let alone been there to knap their tools.
      If you Google Earth, you'll see the wreckage this sprinkler-pipe laying has done to any and all signs of habitation and early man sites that may have been on the lakebed. Research of the habitation sites would have said so much about who had left the petroglyphs at Inyo in the first place! sigh. Govt lackies. Pardon me whilst i steam.
      Anyhoo. The site itself, up on the shoreline, is the remanants of an Enclave of learning, astronomy, mnenomic messaging and proof of world wide diffusion from the Bronze Ages up thru the 1300's. There are examples of Mithraic sky worship, time calendars, Celtic and Levant-observant markings of Solstices, Equinoxes and all sorts of cross-quarters and subdivisions of them. Solar, Lunar and Stellar charting can be found or referred to on the rocks. The bulk of what we can decipher is Solar driven, we are only primitive enuf to understand the shadows we can see during the day, marked out by Sun position and the gnomen-action of various stones and boulders around the site. Who knows what else is being referred to if we could find the time to concentrate on it more!
      "Inyo" as we call it (or her, there is a deep, sacred feminine essence to the place) has proof of north African, Celtic, Arabian/Semitic/Phoenician and Native American symbology displayed and literately readable by the researcher who has the balls to stand up and admit what is (as Gloria Farley says) In Plain Sight.
      This sacred enclave-temple-library would seem to be Native-kept, custodianed and preserved by the ancestors of the Paiute/Ute/Commanche People. But there had to have been not just contact by the Old World travelers, but the Levant-based Astrological/Astronomical methods were being taught there as well. 6-base math is apparent in line-groupings and references. This means either skilled priest-class emmigrants were regularly setting up class there, or the Natives were taking regular trips via tradeship back to the Mediteranean regions to learn and returning with new Wisdoms... or perhaps both.
      It would take more time than i have right now to explain how i came to two important details, but there was definitely an observation and indication that they were highly interested in the Orion constellation, when it arrived for the winter and how it was used to mark the fall equinox. The second expansion of that is that i have located the same symbology being used in the Altiplano, Bolivia region of South America. It would seem, to me, that there was communication between Tiwanaku (& it's influenced region) and our Inyo. I believe i have also found possible connections of communications as a network between Inyo (TEP) in CA... a site of special reverence and function along the Pecos River, TX and Cahokia.
      Perhaps i can wrangle another installment next week when i'm at the library again.
      To again clarify for Susan, yes, i am "Co-Director" behind the scenes at TEP,  but not involved in any of the website articles, construction or webmastering. That's all Rod Schmidt's work for the past 25 yrs. On deeper levels, he and i actually disagree on a few points of interpretation of the site's use, mostly because he does not have any independant indigenous training as myself. So none of my possible articles appear on the website, as he doesn't think they can be proved or backed up by 'normal' references. Of course not. Nobody else has thought of looking at certain symbols in these ancient ways, the collegiate books don't have any access to Elder-taught concepts.
      He uses a Euro-centric philosophy of what 'has' to be logical, and does not understand some of the spiritual nuances that were inherent to the Native approach to creating such a site. He likes to focus on just the Inyo area and i am the Generalist out there scooping up all the other leads in a larger context. Therefore the answering of  incoming questor-e-mail falls mostly to myself, and i've become the public face of TEP for all intents and purposes by default; while Rod should really get the lion's share of what TEP has developed as an organization and online research library.
      What is 'right' or 'not' is totally aint on my radar. The website is Rod's and all the best to him for it. My purpose at Inyo is to help support the preservation of the Enclave site itself, as our signature says "Our Goal, Saving the Past For the Future". What ever personal interpretation the place has for each visitor is the Way It Is. That is how the Elders have explained these petroglyphic places to me. The Spirits have a different thing to say to each individual, according to their needs. What each person takes away from the place to improve their life is completely personal. My energies are into TEP not to agree or disagree with anyone, but to SAVE the darn place so that it will be there for all questors to study in the future!
      In being a farther ranging, eclectic diffusion vacuume, i've developed my own pocket of interpretation skills and do a lot of other project assistance on the side, completely separate from TEP. Such is the example shown earlier by Susan, at Ray Ubaniak's website. He's got a dyno-mite book out at his main homepage:
      But that's all his. It was written long before he bumped into me at the TEP mailboxes. The Ogham interp examples at  http://www.naturalfrequency.net/Ogham.htm are mine. Increasingly, i am seeing that, in the western half of the country anyway, Celtic and Arabic/Semitic dual-trained, possibly multi-lingual specialists, priests or shamen (again, the Amn.Native goes to Egypt/Carthage and comes back home idea) could readily be co-workers at the rockface. It was a lightbulb moment when it was apparent that no matter which format i translated in (Celtic or Semitic) the marks were saying similar things or at least supporting themselves.
      Therefore, it is my own speculation that much of the symbology left at obviously repetitively visited sites, places of annual ceremony etc, were mnenomic crib notes for the Ministrator, so that he would know and remember his lines in front of an otherwise illiterate layfolk. The marks would appear to be bits and pieces of ideas, prayers, liturgical progression indicators for the Leader to follow with the minimum of training, using cliche-familiar rituals.
      Gots to keep on with other stuff before they shut off the lights here at the Library. (DSL access for me in an otherwise dial-up rural living situation.)
      be well. Love Ya

      --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Susan <beldingenglish@...> wrote:

      From: Susan <beldingenglish@...>
      Subject: [ancient_waterways_society] Chris, the Equinox Project, her articles on Ogham, Desciphering, (petroglyphs)
      To: ancient_waterways_society@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 12:38 AM

      Thanks for the post and welcome to the newcomers, Rick.  I finally got to hear an entire Oopa Loopa Cafe radio program, and it was excellent;  member David Brody is highly articulate and hopefully he will be speaking or part of a panel discussion during the upcoming online Atlantic Conference.
      As many know, I have been more than absorbed trying to make some kind of sense about the strange markings I observed on the large rocks on Robert Wheeler's property in Hougton, Michigan two weekends ago.  I know even less about epigraphy than most, but am delving into this a bit anyway.  I've been in the Keweenaw Peninsula for dsecades and seen or been shown many anomalies up there, but I cannot get these inscriptions out of my mind for long.
      If Judy, Frode, and others here will click Photos then Petroglyphs, is that a triangular hole in one of the photos? Other small holes are visible, so perhaps not.  Marion Dahm and Judy Rudebusch have many of us indoctrinated to look for moorning stones every rocky, cliffy place we go, on or near old water routes.
      In regard to petroglyphs in the two photos, I did a web search on possible Ogham/Ogam wiriting and read that there was great variance in such writings over time and across groups, Perhaps that is the case with any symbols and script.  I came across an article,  "Christoperh Nyergos and the California Ogam": http://www.equinox-project.com/nyerges.htm , very interesting in itself.  But coincidently, the page was listed under The Equinox Project: which I recall one of our members, Chris Patenaude is closely connected to ... did I hear she is or was a co-director?  Please clarify.  I know Chris is working long hours, but when time permits, please tell us something about The Equinox Project.   In the meantime, during my usual Searching produced all kinds of articles with excellent photography that Chris authored or co-authored, i.e.,  "Deciphering"  and "Celtic Ogham Writing in Utah" 
      With William Connor from Midwestern Epigraphic Society and Chris Patenaude w/ The Equinox Project as members of this gorup, new member Robert Wheeler and your newly forming petroglyph research and protection group, please ake note....
      Chris is one  here who does have her Yahoo Profile updated, and she joined this group at least a year ago.  I am delighted when accidently stumbling upon such articles and web sites, or when opportunities present to learn more about specific interersts of members of this and my other groups.  And so I can 'plug' some of these dedicated efforts and brilliant contributions,.  Chris,.  I suggest including links to these fine articles in your Profile.  Chris and othere, here, my apologies if I embarrass those of you wanting a low profile.
      Lee Pennington won't mind my passing on part of a phone conversation we had the other day, that he thought epigraphers were needed at the Hougton petroglyph site as much, perhaps more than willing archaeologists are.....for the time being.  
      Goodness, how you all interconnect here..as I am coming more and more to see, and who would have ever thought so, in a small group like this, traveling international waters of greater global understanding.  Everyone here has important areas of interest and effort that contribues to the ever- enlarging wholistic picture.
      Thank you,  Susan

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