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  • Vishnu Mohan
    Dear Ramachandran ji, I Understand your disappointement.Longevity is yet another difficult area where ones prediction goes wrong and we have to see a lot
    Message 1 of 51 , Aug 1, 2011
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      Dear Ramachandran ji,

      I Understand your disappointement.Longevity is yet another difficult area where ones prediction goes wrong and we have to see a lot before assessing one's longevity.We have different ways of calculating longevity starting from pindayurdaya,amsaryudaya etc.Plus we have  a lot fixed planetary combinations which will give longevity and you have Balarishta etc.Then we have longevity determination based on ashtakavarga.Longevity can also be determined by operating maraka dasas.Then we have akala marana based on transits alone which does not fall under any of the above.

      Then you have  jaimini way of longevity based on LL and 8th lord in chara,sthira and ubhaya signs.So it never stops

      Gone are those days where astrologers first determine the longevity(in years)  and then give other predictions,Escpecially this is done when you request a lifetime chart reading.

      I wanted to quote one classical author,but forgot where i read it.He was crisp saying longevity should be estimated keeping in mind

      1.Fixed planetary combinations
      2.Various ayurdaya systems
      3.Akala marana based on transits alone

      This is about longevity in general,for the readers of this group.

      Now coming to this particular case,we also have a guideline that longevity of a child should not be attempted until one is 12 years old.But keeping those apart.

      I dont see this baby crossing Mercury antardasha if he happens to live till that time.

      Reasons- 

      As far as Saturn antar is considered,Saturn is the lagna lord and receives aspect from Jupiter.8th lord Sun is strong and associated with benefics Venus(yogakaraka) and Jupiter(3rd and 12th lord).Saturn is maraka lord from moon and lagna.Unfortuanately Saturn has 0 points in astakavarga which is a measure of Saturn strength.So lagna lord is pretty weak whereas 8th lord is  just ok as it is associated with a benefic which is 12th lord and also in 12th. 8th house has malefics Sun and Mars, and a somewhat good thing is aspect from Jupiter which has its own share of evils

      From moon too good points are Lagna has LL,Vargottama etc.Bad points are presence of malefics in lagna,no association with benefics.
      8th from Moon has aspect of Mars and Saturn.From ayursthana,Saturn in a kendra.

      Saturn is LL and 2nd and also 7th and 8th lord from Moon.

      next comes Mercury dasha

      Mercury is 3rd lord and 12th lord from Moon and also 6th lord  and  9th lord from lagna 
      Mercury has no association of benefics.Mercury is aspected by Saturn which has all the dosha enumerated.

      So it is a going to be a tough battle ahead for the child and he could ultimately die within a couple of years.we will have to see if medical advances defy planetary assault.

      Thanks and best wishes

      Vishnu
       


      From: Ramachandran A.R. <RamachandranAR@...>
      To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 9:18:09 AM
      Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Blind chart of problem child

       

      Dear Vishnuji,
      But I am a little  disappointed. The chart gave a golden oppurtunity to analyse and discuss . But there were no takers in our group apart from yourself ,sunilji and another gentleman.I wanted a discussion on Longivity of the child which also did not fructify. Less participation  has discouraged me . Though medical astrology is challenging  nothing prevented the learned members from discussing whether the child has longivity or whether he will survive further surgical procedures.
      Anyway so far so good
      Ramachandran
      --- On Sat, 7/30/11, Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj@...> wrote:

      From: Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj@...>
      Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Blind chart of problem child
      To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 9:56 PM

       
      Dear Ramchandranji

      Thanks for revealing the details
      good effort on your part to contact the father to obtain birth data.

      Thanks and best wishes

      Vishnu


      From: Ramachandran A.R. <RamachandranAR@...>
      To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sat, July 30, 2011 10:00:04 AM
      Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Blind chart of problem child

       
      Dear Sunilji,Vishnuji 
      Your predictions are correct so also that of others. I know that medical astrology is not easy.I am now giving below the profile of the child as it appeared in Bangalore mirror. Subsequently I sent a message to the dad who gave me the child's birth data.I give below the extract of what appeared in newpaper.
      Extract from Bangalore mirror dated 13th July 2011
      "It’s every parent’s worst nightmare, but Anish Vohra keeps his chin up. His two-year-old son, Abhijaat, is suffering from cerebral palsy, and the city-based former IBM delivery manager needs funds — $125,000 (Rs 56.35 lakh) to be exact — if his son is to live a healthy life.

      Vohra, who has been unemployed for the past three months, is strapped for cash, having already spent all his savings on Abhijaat’s treatment.

      At the end of his tether, he has set up a community on Facebook and has launched a portal in the hope of raising money from donors to fund stem cell treatment — Vohra’s last hope — for his son.

      Vohra believes that his Facebook forum, ‘Pray for Abhijaat’, and portal ‘For Abhijaat’ have helped him appeal to a wider audience.

      He launched his online campaign last year and has raised $3,348 (Rs 1.5 lakh) so far. He keeps donors updated on Abhijaat’s progress with frequent posts on the sites.

      “He came into our lives on July 3, 2008, suddenly, unexpectedly and a good four weeks ahead of schedule due to low amniotic fluid,” Vohra posted. “He did not cry right after birth, he had a breathing difficulty due to very bad stridor (obstruction in the air passage). At first, doctors did not give him a chance, but with the help of C-PAP and oxygen, he survived. He was a good healthy baby, no major issues.”

      But Abhijaat was afflicted by a number of complications. He continued to suffer from respiratory problems, his right knee was dislocated at birth and he lacked the ability to grasp things, to sit or to smile, walk or talk.

      Abhijaat has been in and out of hospitals and has already had three surgeries, the last in Chicago which cost $197,614 (about Rs 89 lakh).

      “We got his knee fixed with physiotherapy and splinting,” Vohra posted. “No one told us there was something wrong with him, just that ‘milestones were delayed’. We used to think ‘So what. He would come around’.”

      Vohra and his wife Deeti’s world came crashing down when they learnt from a paediatric neurologist that their son had cerebral palsy.

      “His motor abilities and speech have been affected. His hands and legs are spastic.

      “Maybe Abhi does not pronounce consonants yet to say Mama, but he makes enough sounds for us to hear Mama in there somewhere. He holds objects placed in his hands for a little while, listens to the sound of our voices and responds to rudimentary instructions.

      “He shows us there is the possibility of a good healthy life within his reach. He is the sweetest little boy you can imagine.”
      Dr Gyanam, one of the paediatric specialists treating Abhijaat at Manipal Hospital, said, “His brain cells were damaged at the time of delivery because of a lack of oxygen to the brain.

      “It will take a while for Abhijaat to be discharged as he now has pneumonia triggered by an infection in his lungs.”


      What ails Abhijaat
      Cerebral palsy is a non-progressive, non-contagious motor condition that causes physical disability in human development in various parts of the body. Abhijaat needs stem cell treatment available in only a few countries such as China and Germany. There is no guarantee that the treatment would work. The Vohras are in touch with the Wu Stem Cell Medical Centre in Beijing. They would need boarding and lodging for the duration of the treatment - typically three months. It would cost about $125,000.

      For details visit: http://forabhijaat.org/index.html, or   "
      thanks for the members who attempted to interpret the chart.
      Ramachandran

      --- On Fri, 7/29/11, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@...> wrote:

      From: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@...>
      Subject: [AIA] Re: Blind chart of problem child
      To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, July 29, 2011, 4:06 PM

       


      Dear Ramachandran JI 

      here every one has explained to u abt the chart 

      one question ,did the baby has any nervous problems with speach defects ?? mobility problems also possible 

      if yes then tell us what is it ,then i can explain more 

      we cannot spell out modern names of diseases 

      my problem is i am getting various Lagna degrees and it will change the dasa too

      any way Jhora is giving 4 degree 18 minits as degree of lagna 

      rgrds sunil nair 


      --- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, "Ramachandran A.R." <RamachandranAR@...> wrote:
      >
      > Dear Sunilji,vishnuji,santhoshjiand other learned members,
      >
      > I am placing below the chart of a child who is special in many respects. I would like the members to examine it and give their  observations .I can assure the members that the study of this chart would give enough fodder for discussions and fine tuning various yogas. Here are the details:
      > Date of birth:  July 3, 2008
      > Time of birth:  9:20 pm 
      > Place of birth:  Chicago suburb called Evanston in the Illinois state of the USA.
      > I have taken permission from the parents to place this chart for discussion in this group.I have done only preliminary examination and shall give my views later:Prima facie the following aspects are seen:
      > Agnimarutha yoga with mars and saturn in 8th.
      > Parivarthana of 5th and 6th lord-Dainya yoga(this yoga was discussed in our group earlier)
      > Vipareetha Rajayoga-Positioning of 8th Lord in 6th
      > Other points: Jupiter 3and 12 L aspecting rogasthana as well as Astama sthana.
      > 5th lord venus with swasthabala in navamsa
      > 6th lord mercury having swasthabala in navamsa.
      > I reserve my further analysis. Please activate the discussions with particular reference to the health of the child and his present condition.
      > Regards,
      > Ramachandran
      >
      >
      >  
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      >  
      >
      > --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > From: Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@...
      > Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas
      > To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 4:14 AM
      >
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      > dear shabu Ji and vishnu Ji 
      >
      >
      > sure ,it is realy corrupted name of  iqbal Ji yoga ,i forget now the meaning of name , blessed ,fortunate ,bestowing etc may b 
      >
      >
      > same yoga is discussed in vedic astrology as chathu sagara yoga and i forget there is another  name too  
      >
      >
      > our player of tennis  leander paes has this yoga which i seen a mag tho they dont discuss this yoga 
      >
      >
      > all planets means also can b nodes included which can reduce the effect where as all other planets except nodes  is  more better and good yoga 
      >
      >
      > rgrds sunil nair 
      >
      >
      > --- On Wed, 27/7/11, shabu_rama shabu_rama@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > From: shabu_rama shabu_rama@...
      > Subject: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas
      > To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Wednesday, 27 July, 2011, 3:59 AM
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      > Dear Vishnu Ji
      >
      > None of the text i have say where the nodes should be for this Iqbal Ji Yoga!
      > all it says is "all planets in kendra & panapara"
      > I guess that is applicable to rahu/ketu as well.
      > but i think more stress is on the non-shadowy planets.
      > Presence of rahu or ketu with any other graha / LL/Karyesha is supposed to be bad as they are deceit or confusion planets. so i guess for Iqbal Ji to be auspicious, it would be better if they are alone with no conjunction etc? still possibly in one of those houses you have mentioned.
      >
      > regards
      >
      > Shabu
      >
      > --- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, Vishnu Mohan vishnumohanalj@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Dear all,
      > >
      > > Tajaka yogas are useful in prasna and varshapal charts
      > >
      > > 1.Ikkavali yoga
      > >
      > > When all the planets in the charts are placed in kendras(1,4,7,10) and
      > > panaphara(2,5,8,11),Ikkavali yoga is said to be formed.
      > > This is a yoga of good fortune.
      > >
      > > Other names- Ikkabala yoga
      > >
      > > What about Rahu or Ketu?Do they have to be in Kendra or panaphara?
      > >
      > >
      > > 2.Induvara yoga
      > >
      > > When all planets are placed in apoklima(3,6,9 and 12) ,induvara yoga is said to
      > > be formed.
      > > This is a bad yoga
      > >
      > >
      > > Thanks and best wishes
      > >
      > > Vishnu
      > >
      >

    • Sunil Nair
      Dear vishnu ji    thanks for u r digging outt more defenition on chattusgara yoga  Now one doubt started appearing in mind do i hav chathu sagara yoga ??
      Message 51 of 51 , Aug 4, 2011
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        Dear vishnu ji 

          thanks for u r digging outt more defenition on chattusgara yoga 

        Now one doubt started appearing in mind do i hav chathu sagara yoga ??

        or is it simply sagara yoga 

        makara Lagna and kendra s is what i thinks ( sure all planets r not in kendras ) is there is a any  chances of fractional chathusagara yoga 

        or is the yoga realy transfered to shri padmanabha temple the area where i am living in kerala  ( as u said endowed twith ratna ,gold etc as phaha ) 

        rgrds suunil nair 




        --- On Thu, 4/8/11, Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj@...> wrote:

        From: Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj@...>
        Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Chatussagara yoga
        To: "ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com" <ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com>, "JyotishGroup@yahoogroups.com" <JyotishGroup@yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Thursday, 4 August, 2011, 10:40 PM

         

        Dear Sunilji,

        Thanks.Search will never end in a subject like jyotish.............I wish i knew Sanskrit...... I hope others can contribute.

        A twist in the tale- Chatussagara yoga

        The same shloka(ditto) is found in Manasagari. I dont know whether it is the origin text or some other may be.

        Chaturshu kendrasangneshu saumyapapagrahaam stitaah
        Chatursagarayogosyam Rajyado Dhanado bhaveth


        Interestingly,2 more verses are found under the topic-Chatussagara yoga which can open up the debate - Kendra denotes bhavas or Rasis.This is a  topic where disagreement existed between different Jyotish mathas(pravartakas).

        The context in which this Chatussagara yoga was written could be- 

        Karkate Makare mesh tulayaam cha grahe stithe
        Chatussagarayogah syatsarvarishtanishudanah

        (If all the grahas are placed in these four rashis namely Mesha,Karkata,Tula and Makara, Chatussagara yoga is present and it destroys all  arishtas)

        Chatuhasindhau naro jaato bahuratnasamanvitah
        gajavaajidhanaiha poorno dharaneesho bhaven naraha

        (who is born in Chatussagara yoga is endowed with many Ratnas,elephant,horse and abundant wealth.He is the lord of bhoomi)


        Thanks and best wishes

        Vishnu









        From: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@...>
        To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 3:06 AM
        Subject: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas**

         


        Dear vishnu Ji

        Thanks 

        U r continously after some thing ,very rarely i find this attitude in persons in astrology other wise many wants me or others should do this work and their job is done the moment they ask the question 

        good ,keep it up 

        rgrds sunil nair 



        --- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj@...> wrote:
        >
        > Dear Sunilji
        >
        > Got the quote in Jataka Sangraha.This should have been copied from another jyotish text
        >
        > Chaturshu kendrasanksheshu saumyah papagrahaah stitah
        > chatursagarayogotyam rajyado danodo bhaveth
        >
        > Minor copying errors can be there.
        >
        > If all  malefics and all benefics are situitated in all the 4 kendras,it is called Chatursagara yog.It will give kingdom and wealth
        >
        > Thanks and best wishes
        >
        > Vishnu
        >
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: Sunil astro_tellerkerala@...
        > To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:20 PM
        > Subject: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas**
        >
        >
        >  
        >
        >
        > Dear Vishnu JI 
        >
        > sure ,I also read from some where and since this name is easy to remembr it got fixed in mind .where as other name which is textual is not still coming to me which is once i discussed with sreenadh JI 
        >
        > any way it was helpful to discuss  since i got a reference 
        >
        > other wise i cannot find books and scan it and sent it because i am not a net savvy person unless and until i get a refernce 
        >
        > This remind me a incidence happened to me .once i was discussing some thing to a indian living in US and i asked him do u know Nakshtra distribution in zodiac ,he told me no ,then i asked him do u hav any panchanga which max 20 to 40 rs even if it is old ,answer was No ,then i said let me see ,but u know that i cannot draw charts with computer hence i was looking for a Link where it is available and i find one link and sent it 
        >
        > then later once this guy again keep on asking doubts which i said since i was sick on those days i asked him to try else where ,here comes threatening mail ,he will expose me 
        >
        > i am using some one else material and acting as if i know every thing ,even i dont know what he was talking 
        >
        > finaly this is what he sent in some grp for me lifting others --it is this nakshtra chakra which is even available in every panchanga that i lifted frm some one 
        >
        > this is the world whom dont hav even one panchanga in hand  but boasts all their forefathers where eating cricket ,dreaming cricket and sleeping cricket but this boy cannot hav even one panchanga paid or ordered .
        >
        >
        > rgrds sunil nair 
        >
        >
        > --- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, Vishnu Mohan vishnumohanalj@ wrote:
        > >
        > > Dear Sunilji
        > >
        > > Thanks for the reference.
        > > If it is from BV Raman yoga book,then it must be from some classic.
        > >
        > > Thanks and best wishes
        > >
        > > Vishnu
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > ________________________________
        > > From: Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@
        > > To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
        > > Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 9:25:27 PM
        > > Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas**
        > >
        > >
        > >
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        > >
        > >
        > > dear vishnu ji
        > >
        > > there is another name for such yoga too ,which is not coming to my mind ,it is
        > > also termed as amsa avatar yoga i think but i am not sure
        > >
        > > i dont talk with books with me or refering it and i am using memory only ,but
        > > now i hav searched which is last thing i do ,because i work with my logic and my
        > > understanding ,my digested methods .
        > >
        > > kendra means all kendras generaly ,it may b 3 kendra s or ,2 kendra s too ,or
        > > even one kendra too ,but logic will tell us how to will go on tilting charts to
        > > max negetive side when in decresing order i wrote
        > >
        > > when all planets are on house ( except one nodes )
        > >
        > >
        > > Now see this
        > >
        > > http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Yogas/b_yoga.htm
        > >
        > > let me try to paste it for readers
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > * A dhi Yoga may be considered as aRaja Yoga or almost its equivalent.
        > > 8. Chatussagara Yoga Definition. :
        > > Chatussagara Yoga is caused when all the kendras are occupied by planets.
        > > ________________________________
        > >
        > > Results. : :
        > > he person will earn good reputation,
        > > be an equal to a ruler,
        > > have a long and prosperous life,
        > > be blessed with good children and health
        > > A nd his name will travel to the confines of the four oceans. Remarks. :
        > > According to the dictumKendras- planets disposed in kendras add great strength
        > > to the horoscope.
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > this is net version of 300 imp combinations written by shri BV raman JI
        > >
        > >
        > > rgrds sunil nair
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > --- On Wed, 27/7/11, Vishnu Mohan vishnumohanalj@ wrote:
        > >
        > >
        > > >From: Vishnu Mohan vishnumohanalj@
        > > >Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas
        > > >To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
        > > >Date: Wednesday, 27 July, 2011, 9:12 PM
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >Dear Sunilji
        > > >
        > > >Are you sure,Chatusagara yoga and Ikkavali yoga are the same?
        > > >I have never heard about that yoga.
        > > >Even if it exists, should it not be planets occupying all 4 kendras unlike
        > > >Ikkavali yoga where possibility varies from
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >1.All planets in 4 kendras
        > > >2.All planets in 3 kendras
        > > >3.All planets in 2 kendras
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >Thanks and best wishes
        > > >
        > > >Vishnu
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > ________________________________
        > > From: Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@
        > > >To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
        > > >Sent: Wed, July 27, 2011 7:46:01 PM
        > > >Subject: Re: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >Dear chandu JI
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >many thanks
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >Happy to hear abt them and happy to know abt new additions to the family
        > > >realy i was thinking abt it while i posted the mail .
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >rgrds sunil nair
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >--- On Wed, 27/7/11, CP nanna_id2006@ wrote:
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >>From: CP nanna_id2006@
        > > >>Subject: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas
        > > >>To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
        > > >>Date: Wednesday, 27 July, 2011, 12:46 PM
        > > >>
        > > >>
        > > >>
        > > >>Dear Sunil Ji,
        > > >>
        > > >>//i remebr the nimitta of a girl who look like meera jasmin a south indian
        > > >>actress//
        > > >>
        > > >>Yes my SIL has a resemblance almost look a like Meera Jasmin.. :) She's
        > > >>interested in and done Fashion Designing a trait something related to Art we can
        > > >>say..
        > > >>
        > > >>//hope n pray every thing is fine with them//
        > > >>
        > > >>Ya both are fine and doing well, and recently became a proud parents of a cute
        > > >>daughter!!! :)
        > > >>
        > > >>Regards
        > > >>Chandu
        > > >>
        > > >>--- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, Sunil Nair
        > > >>astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:
        > > >>>
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        > > >>Dear Chandu jI
        > > >>thanks, i remebr the nimitta of a girl who look like meera jasmin a south indian
        > > >>actress
        > > >>so u can testify the effect of this yoga too
        > > >>And hope n pray every thing is fine with them
        > > >>rgrds sunil nairÂ
        > > >>
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        > > >>> --- On Wed, 27/7/11, CP nanna_id2006@ wrote:
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        > > >>> From: CP nanna_id2006@
        > > >>> Subject: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas
        > > >>> To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
        > > >>> Date: Wednesday, 27 July, 2011, 10:55 AM
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        > > >>> Dear Sunil Ji,
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        > > >>> I remember you told me about this Iqbal Ji Yoga around 2 Yrs back
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        > > >>> My Sis-in-Law has this Yoga.....!! :)
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        > > >>> In her chart All Planets including Nodes are in Kendras (1-4-7) only!!
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        > > >>> Chandu
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        > > >>> --- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, Sunil Nair
        > > >>><astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:
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        > > >>> > dear shabu Ji and vishnu JiÃÆ'‚Â
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        > > >>> > sure ,it is realy corrupted name of ÃÆ'‚Â iqbal Ji yoga ,i forget now the
        > > >>>meaning of name , blessed ,fortunate ,bestowing etc may bÃÆ'‚Â
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        > > >>> > same yoga is discussed in vedic astrology as chathu sagara yoga and i forget
        > > >>>there is another ÃÆ'‚Â name too ÃÆ'‚Â
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        > > >>> > our player of tennis ÃÆ'‚Â leander paes has this yoga which i seen a mag tho
        > > >>>they dont discuss this yogaÃÆ'‚Â
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        > > >>> > all planets means also can b nodes included which can reduce the effect where
        > > >>>as all other planets except nodes ÃÆ'‚Â is ÃÆ'‚Â more better and good yogaÃÆ'‚Â
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        > > >>> > rgrds sunil nairÃÆ'‚Â
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        > > >>> > --- On Wed, 27/7/11, shabu_rama <shabu_rama@> wrote:
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        > > >>> > From: shabu_rama <shabu_rama@>
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        > > >>> > Subject: [AIA] Re: Tajaka yogas
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        > > >>> > To: ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com
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        > > >>> > Date: Wednesday, 27 July, 2011, 3:59 AM
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        > > >>> > Dear Vishnu Ji
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        > > >>> > None of the text i have say where the nodes should be for this Iqbal Ji
        > > >>Yoga!
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        > > >>> > all it says is "all planets in kendra & panapara"
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        > > >>> > I guess that is applicable to rahu/ketu as well.
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        > > >>> > but i think more stress is on the non-shadowy planets.
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        > > >>> > Presence of rahu or ketu with any other graha / LL/Karyesha is supposed to be
        > > >>>bad as they are deceit or confusion planets. so i guess for Iqbal Ji to be
        > > >>>auspicious, it would be better if they are alone with no conjunction etc? still
        > > >>>possibly in one of those houses you have mentioned.
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        > > >>> > regards
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        > > >>> > Shabu
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        > > >>> > --- In ancient_indian_astrology@yahoogroups.com, Vishnu Mohan
        > > >>><vishnumohanalj@> wrote:
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        > > >>> > > Dear all,
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        > > >>> > > Tajaka yogas are useful in prasna and varshapal charts
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        > > >>> > > 1.Ikkavali yoga
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        > > >>> > > When all the planets in the charts are placed in kendras(1,4,7,10) and
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        > > >>> > > panaphara(2,5,8,11),Ikkavali yoga is said to be formed.
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        > > >>> > > This is a yoga of good fortune.
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        > > >>> > > Other names- Ikkabala yoga
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        > > >>> > > What about Rahu or Ketu?Do they have to be in Kendra or panaphara?
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        > > >>> > > 2.Induvara yoga
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        > > >>> > > When all planets are placed in apoklima(3,6,9 and 12) ,induvara yoga is
        > > >>>said to
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        > > >>> > > be formed.
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        > > >>> > > This is a bad yoga
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        > > >>> > > Thanks and best wishes
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        > > >>> > > Vishnu
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