Re: Saturn's Transit Results of 2.5 Yrs...But on what basis?
Dear Shri Sunil Nairji ji,
You are a Master Blaster.
I love reading all your mails and read them fully.
Your lines -
" Now to become a successful astrologer u simply wants a good marketting person behind u than u learn so many yrs and work sincerely "
sums up the present day definition of a "successful" astrologer.
Love and regards,
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "astro_tellerkerala" <astro_tellerkerala@...> wrote:
> Dear chandu Ji and grp
> Thanks for raising an imp question
> why transit is important at all ??
> i think this is the reason
> Our birth chart is map of heaven at the time of Birth ,if u see u can
> see all planets r still and staying there for rest of the life in our
> Birth chart and we assess chart on that basis of dasa s . and basis of
> planets and ownerships etc etc
> But we all know that all this planets also moving
> so transits as a whole is also considered for seeing that effects and
> their movmnt will trigger the houses and karaka s ,some sensitiv points
> ,even 64th amsa points ( this also can see frm various karakas too )
> ,some points like what we call brigu bindu etc etc too in this movemnt s
> this shud b read along with dasa s and other methods we follows
> since sat and jupiter is slowest planets and their position frm moon is
> considered as moon is karaka for mind too .This is the general method s
> used by most of the Popular astro sites or news papers
> But it has to b seen frm many angles ,including ashtavarga
> All Know that Moon is having 2 1/4 days presense in a sign ,where as
> Lagna is shorstest unit .then there is various karaka s ,marriage karaka
> venus ,satru Karaka mars ,karaka for cheating rahu etc etc ,so taking
> transits frm MOON only is too general but easy to publicise such
> transits tru media s .So it become a general accepted system
> even we hav to see how it is interacting with various karaka and
> activating which houses ,also we must not forget the desa ,kala patra
> principle too
> if dasa is good No bad transit can destory its significations
> sani is natural 10th L and 11th lord ,so it rules our karma and its
> results ,jup is considered as sarveshwara karaka and jeeva elemnt in
> it is also natural 9th L hence rules our bhagya too
> hence this 2 transits are important ,but all this has to b seen with our
> birthcharts and dasa s etc
> i am trying to giv a simple answer here
> Most of the commercial astrologers utilise this transit time to make
> some money ,and the reasons r many
> No body will go to an astrologer and pay him good unless he trumpet
> himself ,all ppl r after TV or net astrologers who ever advise max will
> get max clients ,so we shud also think that all this will also cost them
> money .I hav seen some astrologers spends upto millions ( a yantra
> seller - i am calculating his advtmnts also in many forign media s )
> daily for simply advtising ,so even if they truely charge money ( let us
> assume they r good astrologers with good grasp of subjuct ) how much he
> can earn in a day after deducting his expenditure .what abt the days
> when he takes a leave or sick,or needs to attent some family /social
> functions etc ,do u Know what is the rent of one office room in places
> like delhi in a decent market place ?? it may b one lac RS even per
> month to hav a office in a nice place and then running expenses are
> there .
> so pls think abt this ,who is responsible for such a plight ??It is our
> ppl only .They r not ready to support the good ,satwik astrologers ,and
> this also a profession so finaly it is survival of fittest
> who is ready to compete and out smart others win the race ( it is new
> mantra in this kaliyuga )
> do u know even if we spend six months ( on some cases of mental tensions
> after a break in Lov or a divorse case etc ) daily for some persons
> finaly they come with absues only .
> So we hav to think all sides and views too
> one TV progrmme will cost min 30 to 50 thousand rs ,all thinks the TV is
> giving free platform ,which is not true
> so even if astrologer work honestly how much he can earn in a day ?
> also think of city astrologers who has to bear all rise in price s and
> other paraphernalia of city life ,even a school fees may b 3000 in mega
> cities per month for a kid
> So along with fighting against such evils we public also shud hav an
> awareness on why it is happening so
> Now to become a successful astrologer u simply wants a good marketting
> person behind u than u learn so many yrs and work sincerely
> sorry i will write later more later
> rgrds sunil nair
> --- In email@example.com, Manoj Chandran
> chandran_manoj@ wrote:
> > Dear Chandu Ji,
> > Saturn being the outermost planet and due to its speed (or the lack of
> it) does have a great influence during transit. Whether this influence
> is positive or not needs interpretation and this includes a hierarchy as
> well. Natal chart strength/weakness, Dasha, Antar and then it is
> transit, in that order. Transit cannot create what the Natal chart does
> not promise. At the same time, Natal promise cannot fructify without
> Transit help.
> > In quoting another astrologer you have put me in a tight spot because
> now I (a learner) risks disagreeing with an experienced astrologer. Also
> since you have not reproduced the whole analysis, it may not be fair to
> comment on it. But from my logical mind, I cannot agree that Saturn's
> relationship with the Rashi will have no impact on the transit effect.
> Ofcourse we need to consider several other factors including the house
> ownership of Saturn and Moon. We also cannot ignore the position of
> Saturn/Moon from the Lagna as well.
> > On top of all this, the degree of placement of Moon is important. If
> Moon is 1 degree Virgo or 29 degree Virgo, don't you think it will make
> a difference? Should we then consider Sade-Sati from 45 degree on either
> side of the Moon's degree position, instead of Rashi alone? And ofcourse
> Nakshatras also play an important role.
> > But, I can assure you that if Dasha is bad, Antar dasha is Bad and
> Sade-Sati arrives, even if Sa has good rulership and Moon has good
> rulership, still there will be serious problems. I am a live test case
> for that in the past 7.5 years.
> > Regards,
> > -Manoj
> > ________________________________
> > From: nanna_id2006 nanna_id2006@
> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:03:26 AM
> > Subject: [ancient_indian_astrology] Saturn's Transit Results of 2.5
> Yrs...But on what basis?
> > Dear All,
> > Whenever Saturn and Jupiter begins new transit be it A or B house it
> is an opportunity for the Website/Web Astrologers to encash the same to
> the maximum extent by just sending mailers with generic influences of
> the said planets based on Rashi signs, Ashtama shani etc etc making
> gullible members/public fall pray and spend so much of money in the name
> of Shanti, pooja etc... Even there's one Baba's Astrology website keep
> on sending Shanti..Homam Pooja notices every 15 Days!!!:-)
> > Well, i would like to know from the esteemed and learned members here
> in AIA and their respective views on..
> > How Saturn's Transit into particular house(s) with each house having 3
> Nakshatras effects the native....?
> > Here i have one very useful perhaps may be a good observing tool if i
> may call it. Even i observed with my own experience during all these 2.5
> yrs Transit of Saturn in Leo which is 8H from my natal Moon.
> > This was told by one of the very exprienced, practical and scientific
> bent Astrologer in an another forum long back i don't want to reveal the
> name at this point of time but i have my respect and regards to him..
> > Quote:
> > -> "It is not saturn's relationship with the rashi it is transiting
> but the moon's relationship to the rashi/lord which saturn is transiting
> that will determine if the period (2.5 years at a time!) would be
> positive or negative! "<-
> > Unquote
> > What are your observations/ views?
> > Kindly share......
> > Regards
> > Chandu2Chill
- Shri Mohit Virmani ji,
From: Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 2:48:51 PM
Subject: [ancient_indian_astrology] Re:Punarfoo yoga Saturn's Transit Results
Respected Pathi ji & all,
Well i agree wit u wit Punarfoo Yoga , even i went so mch ups n downs in my relationship n in marriage, Thanks Mohit