RE: [ancient_indian_astrology] Re: Retrograde Planets
- respected all,my name is mahesh iyer.i always felt like asking this question related to retrograde planets.my GURU is retrograde in 2nd house and its in its own house saggitarius.what does that mean? im confused now after reading sreenadhji's report and robert's report.does a retrograde planet in swagrah mean good or bad or neutral.please explain how this works.
Planetary Positions Planet Dir/Ret Speed Degrees Sign Ascendant ---- ---- 14o 3' 10'' Scorpio Sun Dir 0o 57' 47'' 5o 48' 57'' Leo Moon Dir 12o 58' 0'' 5o 19' 19'' Capricornus Mars Dir 0o 38' 8'' 11o 8' 23'' Leo Mercury Dir 0o 33' 7'' 18o 10' 44'' Cancer Jupiter Ret 0o 0' 33'' 5o 1' 21'' Sagittarius Venus Dir 0o 55' 18'' 20o 7' 8'' Gemini Saturn Dir 0o 4' 12'' 25o 36' 26'' Taurus Rahu Ret 0o 3' 10'' 0o 44' 47'' Capricornus Ketu Ret 0o 3' 10'' 0o 44' 47'' Cancer Uranus Dir 0o 2' 52'' 22o 17' 29'' Virgo Neptune Dir 0o 0' 16'' 9o 1' 29'' Scorpio Pluto Dir 0o 2' 0'' 7o 12' 3'' Virgo
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- Dear Ramdas ji
> Now for example,for Karka Lagna, Budha becomes 3rd and 12th lord and[Prafulla] Yes - I do understand the role of budha for the karka lagna, and thanks for elaborated explanation. and I also do appreciate your personal research. I will certainly explore these pointers.
> hence he becomes a malefic for Karka Lagna.In such case, if Budha is
> Vakra and as we know Vakra means some kind of obstruction,we have to see
> in which area Budha is giving obstruction.Here, Budha is the lord of 3rd
> house indicating communication will be affected till he becomes direct
> after a certain period of time and also the native may have some health
> problems connected to central nervous system,ear/nose/throat etc.Also 3rd
> house indicates younger co-born.So in such cases,either there may be no
> younger co-born or if born will have some birth defects.These
> observations can be checked personally.Ofcourse all these informations
> are my research based,so I request to check the reality of this fact and
> can improve this theory.
>I also agree that our Maharshis have not given[Prafulla] appreciate your perspective and agree as well.
> any such informations in any of the classics and as it is very secret to
> know about these things and was hidden.So it is our duty to give
> attention to such hidden matters and study them and try to do some
> research on such matters.
> But some Scholars are against me as the Aham is not allowing them to try[Prafulla] Well, any jyotish scholar obstructing research publishing is not doing a good karma. As far as I look at jyotish, as ever evolving science; and we must look at them with open mind. Best test of any theory (new or old) is in its application in predictive jyotish. if it is working, we must pursue it further and need not be dogged down by contradictions in shastras itself.
> to check such kind of theories.
>You see, till now I dont have any website[Prafulla] - Well, i have been thoroughly enjoying your notes and from my perspective - questioning never meant to obstruct, but a way to clear my own contradictions. In my humble view - you must continue on forums and share your jyotish interpretations / research. and you need not worry about others' objective of forum participation.
> of my own and I thought I can use the Astrology groups like the present
> one which is meant to disperse our age old Divine science of Jyotish.But
> they are not interested to listen to me and in such case,I feel that I
> dont have to continue in this list.So I will not be available to this
regards / Prafulla Gang
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> To: email@example.comFrom: jyotish@...:
> Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:29:25 -0800Subject: RE: [ancient_indian_astrology] Re:
> Retrograde Planets
> Dear Ramdas jiAnother confusion. Should not we take natural benefic /
> malefic to consider vakri planet's result (as most bhrigu nadi sutra does
> not talk of ascendant driven functional role) for past life karmic debts
> etc?regards / Prafulla Ganghttp://www.prafulla.net"The right to be heard
> does not automatically include the right to be taken
> -----Original Message-----> From: ramadasrao@...> Sent: Tue, 3
> Jul 2007 19:21:20 +0000> To: firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: RE: [ancient_indian_astrology] Re: Retrograde Planets> > Dear
> Gopu Ji,> If Budha is Vakra and is malefic for the chart,such Budha Dasa
> till that> period will be of evil but after that he may give reverse
> results and> suppose if such Budha Vakra is benefic in nature,the results
> of such> benefic Budha will be very slow and after that period,its
> benefic results> will suddenly doubled.> With Regards,> Ramadas Rao.> > >
> To: email@example.comFrom:>
> kgopu_24@...: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 03:00:43 -0700Subject: Re:>
> [ancient_indian_astrology] Re: Retrograde Planets> > > > > dear
> Sreenadhji,ur analysis of the chart is very good with ref> fromslokas.
> But the discussion on retrograde planets urconcluding that> benefics will
> not harm. suppose thetheory of number of days it was> retrograde is
> applied,in this chart on Jan 20th mercury's retrogression> goesof and
> from 11th it is 10days or 10years ofretrogression and the> first 10years
> of Mercury mahadasa may not give the desired results. can> we applythis
> interpretation for retrogrades irrespective ofwhether it is> benefic or
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