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  • Thomas Duncanson
    Universities arose while there were yet no Books procurable; while a man, for a single Book, had to give an estate of land. That, in those circumstances, when
    Message 1 of 122 , Jan 24, 2011
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      "Universities arose while there were yet no Books procurable; while a man, for a single Book, had to give an estate of land. That, in those circumstances, when a man had some knowledge to communicate, he should do it by gathering the learners round him, face to face, was a necessity for him. If you wanted to know what Abelard knew, you must go and listen to Abelard. Thousands, as many as thirty thousand, went to hear Abelard and that metaphysical theology of his. And now for any other teacher who had also something of his own to teach, there was a great convenience opened: so many thousands eager to learn were already assembled yonder; of all places the best place for him was that. For any third teacher it was better still; and grew ever the better, the more teachers there came. It only needed now that the King took notice of this new phenomenon; combined or agglomerated the various schools into one school; gave it edifices, privileges, encouragements, and named it Universitas, or School of all Sciences: the University of Paris, in its essential characters, was there. The model of all subsequent Universities; which down even to these days, for six centuries now, have gone on to found themselves. Such, I conceive, was the origin of Universities.

      It is clear, however, that with this simple circumstance, facility of getting Books, the whole conditions of the business from top to bottom were changed. Once invent Printing, you metamorphosed all Universities, or superseded them! The Teacher needed not now to gather men personally round him, that he might speak to them what he knew: print it in a Book, and all learners far and wide, for a trifle, had it each at his own fireside, much more effectually to learn it!"

      --Thomas Carlyle, Heroes and Hero-Worship, 1841

      I was reading Carlyle last night and came across this b-r-i-l-l-i-a-n-t piece of social prognostication, that the university as we know it would come to its end because of a new and inexpensive communication technology.  In the very next sentence, by the way, the b-r-i-l-l-i-a-n-t seer (I read Carlyle as a sort of Puritanical pre-fascist before fascism-- one really does need to choose one's prophets wisely) admitted that he was, in fact, presenting this as a (wildly popular) lecture, a series of lectures, history teaches us, that made his name and fortune.

      Tom Duncanson

      Millikin University

       



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    • Shirvani, Sheida
      I will not suggest and teach public speaking online. No matter how much rule you put, it is not face to face presentation! Sheida Sent from my iPad On Feb 3,
      Message 122 of 122 , Feb 4, 2011
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        I will not suggest and teach public speaking online.  No matter how much rule you put, it is not face to face presentation!

        Sheida

        Sent from my iPad

        On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:17 PM, "Myrene Magabo" <magus_898@...> wrote:

         

        Thanks, Sarah!

        --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Sarah Clements <sclements@...> wrote:

        From: Sarah Clements <sclements@...>
        Subject: RE: [americancomm] Re: Debbie, Judgment on Online higher education
        To: americancomm@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:06 AM

         

        I teach the basic speech course online and students have to 2 options to complete the required speeches.  They can either come to campus a scheduled Saturday and present their presentation to other classmates.  They also have the option to record their speech.  They have guidelines they are required to follow.  Below are just the audience guidelines:

        § You must present your speech in a professional environment, which includes locations such as places of employment, churches, or community/civic organizations. Professional environments do not include locations such as homes, garages, or food courts. Failure to record your speech in a professional environment will result in a grade of zero for your speech, which will result in your receiving a grade of “F” for the course.

        § You must have a minimum of five adults (age 18 or older) seated in your audience, and no one younger than 18 should appear in the recording. Failure to have five adults seated in your audience will result in a grade of zero for your speech, which will result in your receiving a grade of “F” for the course.

        § You may not have small children or infants in your audience. They not only would not be allowed in a classroom but also do not realize the importance of being still and quiet. Having even one child or infant in the audience will result in a grade reduction of ten points for the speech.

        § Your audience members must pay attention to your entire speech.

        § You must face your audience during your presentation.

         

         

        From: americancomm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:americancomm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of crux31504@...
        Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:12 PM
        To: americancomm@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [americancomm] Re: Debbie, Judgment on Online higher education

         

         

        I'm still waiting for someone to explain public speaking in an online environment.



         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: "TYRONE ADAMS, PH.D."
        Sent: Feb 2, 2011 12:39 AM
        To: americancomm@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [americancomm] Re: Debbie, Judgment on Online higher education

         


        Real college is better than online college.  There's no way possible to have a virtual kegger...

        --
        Tyrone L. Adams, Ph.D.
        Richard D'Aquin Endowed Professor of Journalism and Communication
        University of Louisiana at Lafayette
        College of Liberal Arts
        Department of Communication
        113A Burke-Hawthorne Hall
        P. O. Box 43650
        Lafayette, LA  USA  70504-3650

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        CIES Fulbright Senior Specialist to Kazakhstan, Summer of 2011


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