2490RE: [americancomm] Advice for Aspiring Academics?
- Dec 4 10:59 AM
Well ya sure. I mean you can get a job at a Community College. Some of them are probably fun. I was an adjunct for over 10 years, applied for full time jobs whenever they came up and never got hired but a few people do get in the door that way. Still if you can and want to have a great career in academia like tenure track and decent pay, not slave adjunct or near poverty community college wages, then PHd or back to PR.
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Sarah Clements <sclements@...> wrote:
From: Sarah Clements <sclements@...>
Subject: RE: [americancomm] Advice for Aspiring Academics?
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:15 PM
You can get a decent job in academia without a PhD. I teach at a Community College and I am so happy to go to work everyday. As long as you truly enjoy education and want to make a difference it can be done without the PhD. To get your foot in the door at a 2 year college or a State University you can adjunct. Simply call or email the chair of the department you are qualified to teach. Our college is always looking for adjuncts.
From: americancomm@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: americancomm@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Mark Fabiano
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM
To: americancomm@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [americancomm] Advice for Aspiring Academics?
My humble advice is to go back to corporate public relations. You won't get a decent job in academia unless you have a PhD and the way that works is this: You get a job (if lucky) at a school of equal or less value in the overall academic scheme of it. So get a PhD at Harvard the world's your oyster. Get a PhD from --- State Univeristy and get a job at a community college up to -- state university? Publishing.. ..do it if you love it and are interested in what you are writing. the problem with online programs is that you dont get to practice teach in a lab setting of sorts....with peers, mentors and faculty. Thats where the connections for career are made as well. So I would recommend a real phd program at a real university.
--- On Mon, 11/24/08, Leigh Ann Whittle <leighannwhittle@ earthlink. net> wrote:
From: Leigh Ann Whittle <leighannwhittle@ earthlink. net>
Subject: [americancomm] Advice for Aspiring Academics?
To: americancomm@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 9:53 PM
I am a relative newcomer to our group and would like to obtain some advice from you-all (Or "y'all", if you happen to be in the same region of the U.S. as I am!). First, a little background on me before my advice request:
Since receiving my bachelor's in corporate communications and journalism in 2001, I have been a communication practitioner, be it in public relations or contract writing (the latter of which I do now). A layoff from PR in 2005 forced me to re-think what I'm after in my career, and I enrolled in an online grad school English course to see how I liked it. And, boy, did I like it! The learning, the being among others of a like mind, the immersion into communication study (and having people actually understand what I was talking about!) was invigorating. I felt I had finally found my niche, and I am re-directing my career path on teaching and the academic community.
Needless to say, I did finish that graduate degree. I have no complaints about my method of obtaining that degree -- entirely online from a brick-and-mortar school you can actually visit should you ever find yourself in Greenville , NC -- but the inability to do GA work and be face to face with my professors and colleagues left me wanting. I feel like I'm stumbling along behind my peers who completed their degrees on campus.
Now here's my request for advice: What would you recommend someone like me do? Obviously, I have been applying for teaching positions, but as you all know, the job market isn't at its best right now. What are some other avenues I can take to transition careers? I am especially curious about publishing because my perception is -- and I could be wrong -- that you must already be part of an academic community to perform research and have your findings published. I have published a review in Business Communication Quarterly, but I realize one article isn't enough.
I realize there is no single tried and true way to get into academia, but I would like to hear what people inside the field have to offer.
Thank you in advance and have a wonderful day,
Leigh Ann Whittle
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