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8745Re: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

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  • Anne and John Hollamby
    Jun 3, 2011
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      Hello Paul,
      The addition of more weight in the bow would severly increase the risk of
      sinking via the bow thruster so Amel's advice seems very suspect. Raising
      the height of the stripe to that on the bow seems the only sensible answer.
      I think they may have got it wrong when they increased the overall length in
      the eighties and nineties thus sinking the stern without redoing the stripe.
      Anne and John, SM 319 Bali Hai, in Malta.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Paul LaFrance" <pflafrance@...>
      To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:32 PM
      Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room


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      > Steve
      > When we where in La Rochelle this past month, I inquired about the boot
      > stripe. They indicated at the factory that the boot stripe was set
      > correctly to begin with and as more options where added to the SM it made
      > the stern sink a little lower. They did not alter the stripe over time
      > time and they agreed that it should possibly have been done with the
      > addition of more weight. We repainted the boot stripe maintaining the bow
      > as original and raised the stern so it was out of the water. (Easier
      > cleaning). We do not have the white part between the anti fouling and boot
      > stripe that was there before. C'est la vie.
      > Looks great and a number of Amel owners in the Caribbean have noted it.
      >
      > Paul & Sue LaFrance
      > SV NOMAD SM 362 currently in Bristol, RI, USA
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      > To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
      > From: ianjudyjenkins@...
      > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:12:08 +0000
      > Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine
      > room
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      > Hi Steve, All SMs that I know of seem to float stern down, particularly
      > when in cruising load mode. As a result I would take a lot of convincing
      > that Amel have actually painted the orange stripe in the right place all
      > these years. We love Amels dearly ( this is our third ) but stubbornness
      > is one of their virtues. Having spent hours and hours over 9 years, in the
      > water or in the dinghy, cleaning the orange and intermediate white stripe,
      > we decided last year, when we applied Coppercoat antifouling, that enough
      > was enough. We took a deep breath and brought the Coppercoat to the TOP of
      > the orange stripe, adding a new blue stripe above that, with the
      > intermediate white stripe in between. I cannot tell you how pleased we are
      > with the result. Should have done it years ago. The hull looks just right,
      > slightly sleeker, the fact that the Coppercoat ( brown but going very
      > softly green with oxidisation) comes up so high looks right. No more
      > cleaning of that lower part and , an added bonus, noticeably less white
      > hull to clean and polish---and you can do that from the dinghy or dock
      > without getting your polishing rag wet. In our experience you don't need
      > to change the angle, just raise the waterline and add a new coloured
      > strip. Happy painting, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza ( where the
      > water temp is 23c but the sea is awash with jellyfish!)
      >
      >> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
      >> From: svsummerlove@...
      >> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:19:54 +0000
      >> Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room
      >>
      >> I would think that intentionally painting the boot stripe at an angle
      >> that isn't parallel to the water for marketing purposes is out of
      >> character for Capt Henri. If he wanted to "pose" a boat for the marketing
      >> literature photo with no anti-fouling paint showing to make it look
      >> "dynamic", I believe he was clever enough to artificially load one for
      >> that purpose, rather than painting the stripe in the wrong place on 450
      >> boats. Nor do I see him sacrificing function for "eye appeal".
      >>
      >> I'm not talking about simply raising the boot stripe 4" so the stern is
      >> barely out of the water, and the bow is now 12" out of the water. I'm
      >> asking about the consequences of changing the angle of it down the length
      >> of the boat so that it's 4" to 8" out of the water all the way to the
      >> stern. I've already got 8" of "dry" anti-fouling paint at the bow. I
      >> don't need 4 more inches.
      >>
      >> Example:
      >>
      >> If I want the fiberglass along the waterline to remain free of growth, I
      >> have 3 choices:
      >>
      >> 1. I can leave the boot stripe where it is now, and try to balance the
      >> boat with weight distribution so the bow rides 4" lower and the stern 4"
      >> higher.
      >>
      >> 2. I can change only the "location" of the entire boot stripe by raising
      >> it 4", so it is now 12" out of the water at the bow, and 4" out at the
      >> stern.
      >>
      >> 3. I can change both the "angle" and the "location" of the boot stripe so
      >> it is 4" out of the water along its entire length.
      >>
      >> Since the boot stripe of every SM I've seen rides bow high with the stern
      >> in the water, it can be assumed that either none of the owners are
      >> capable of proper weight distribution, or the boot stripe was painted in
      >> the wrong place to begin with.
      >>
      >> My concern is that, assuming the naval architect who put it there knew
      >> what he was doing and had a good reason for doing it, I don't want to
      >> alter the angle of the boot stripe without knowing that reason.
      >>
      >> Does anyone know that reason?
      >>
      >> Many thanks,
      >>
      >> Steve
      >> SM340
      >> Summer Love
      >>
      >>
      >> --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
      >> wrote:
      >> >
      >> > In the normal loading for ocean work all the Amel seem to need the
      >> > water line raised seems the Capt wanted the "sales" appearance to be
      >> > more dynamic. We too collected an marine forest on the waterline and
      >> > stern. Grant when healed over cross for days you will get growth on the
      >> > leeward side as it is under water.
      >> >
      >> > Smooth sailing.
      >> >
      >> > Regards
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      >> >
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      >> >
      >> > On May 22, 2011, at 17:49, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
      >> >
      >> > > Hi all, we too have the low stern. Knowing Amel do nothing without
      >> > > good reason and they build this model for many years without changing
      >> > > the waterline I wondered if they expected more ground tackle weight
      >> > > in the anchor locker than most of us have or more heavy items stored
      >> > > in the bow lockers?.
      >> > > Corrosion in the engine room. A friend with a SM asked me how come my
      >> > > engine room is so free of corrosion and rust and his was so bad. The
      >> > > answer is WD40 or in NZ, CRC 556
      >> > > Spray it regularly and liberally over just about every thing
      >> > > including alternators and electric motors. Makes a huge difference.
      >> > > Regards
      >> > > Danny and Yvonne
      >> > > SM299 Ocean Pearl
      >> > > Mangonui New Zealand
      >> > > --- On Mon, 23/5/11, Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...> wrote:
      >> > >
      >> > > From: Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
      >> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
      >> > > To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
      >> > > <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
      >> > > Date: Monday, 23, May, 2011, 8:57 AM
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > > Bill,
      >> > > Once we moved onto our Amel as "liveaboards" we raised the antifoul
      >> > > to meet the stripe......after doing it we were told by others that
      >> > > this was a certain sign of "liveaboards"
      >> > > Now that we have decided to stay in Phuket, and do no more ocean
      >> > > crossings.....at the next haulout I was thinking of re-adjusting the
      >> > > waterline......say no more!!
      >> > > Glad to see that your move from the Maldives to the Med went well.
      >> > >
      >> > > All the Best
      >> > >
      >> > > Mike
      >> > > Akwaaba
      >> > > SN 027
      >> > >
      >> > > ________________________________
      >> > > From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
      >> > > To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
      >> > > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:26 AM
      >> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > > Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet the stripe
      >> > > to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will begin to loose
      >> > > weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see.
      >> > >
      >> > > Best,
      >> > >
      >> > > Bill
      >> > > BeBe, Sm2k, #387
      >> > > Currently Marmaris, Turkey
      >> > >
      >> > > --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@>
      >> > > wrote:
      >> > > >
      >> > > > Bill,
      >> > > >
      >> > > > I noticed a few weeks ago that the boot stripe area in the stern
      >> > > > had marine
      >> > > > growth. The yard recommended that I raise the waterline as the
      >> > > > stern is
      >> > > > lower in the water than the stripe.
      >> > > >
      >> > > > Did you or any other owner raise the stripe?
      >> > > >
      >> > > > Fair Winds
      >> > > >
      >> > > > Eric
      >> > > >
      >> > > > Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
      >> > > >
      >> > > >
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      >> > > >
      >> > > > _____
      >> > > >
      >> > > > From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
      >> > > > [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill
      >> > > > aboard
      >> > > > SV BeBe
      >> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:41 AM
      >> > > > To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
      >> > > > Subject: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
      >> > > >
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      >> > > >
      >> > > > We are in Marmaris, Turkey and just had the boot stripe renewed
      >> > > > using a two
      >> > > > part paint matched to Amel orange.
      >> > > >
      >> > > > We have purchased the paint twice and have paint, hardener and
      >> > > > thinner
      >> > > > available for any Amel owner in the area to pick up.
      >> > > >
      >> > > > Contact us at svbebe"at"gmail.com or Turkey cell at
      >> > > > +90535-082-2191.
      >> > > >
      >> > > > Bill
      >> > > > s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
      >> > > > Currently Marmaris, Turkey
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