18947Re: [alternate-history] Re: Would History Change IF Atlantis Appeared?
- Mar 9, 2006Would blocking the North Sea change the climate for
--- Michael Edward McNeil <MEMcNeil@...> wrote:
> macmaster@... wrote:__________________________________________________
> >Hmm, that would be a very plausible shift - but
> >would it mean for us if England were a paninsula?
> >Michael Edward McNeil wrote:
> >>2) Lack of an English Channel, as Josh proposed,
> >>simply requires that a couple of hundred foot
> >>breach in what was a single land-mass during the
> >>ice age not occur at the end of the ice age.
> 1. Caesar conquers southern Britain -- perhaps the
> entire peninsula --
> along with the Gauls in the Gallic War. Augustus
> finishes up the job of
> occupying what we know as Scotland.
> 2. Claudius begins the conquest of Ireland rather
> than Britain.
> 3. The Franks conquer southern Britain along with
> Gaul. The
> Anglo-Saxons stay put (unless they invade Scotland
> and/or Ireland).
> Brittany settled by Irish Celts.
> 4. The Normans originally settle in Britain rather
> than OTL Normandy.
> 5. The Normans invade Ireland. After the Hundred
> Years War, Britain
> goes to France, while Ireland takes on the role of
> England -- but it's
> smaller and weaker.
> 5. The Spanish Armada conquers Ireland (since
> there's no English
> Channel to get defeated in).
> 6. France takes Ireland from Spain? Or not.
> 7. The Dutch have a longer, more circuitous and
> dangerous route -- that
> France can more easily block -- round Scotland to
> get anywhere for trade
> or war, and therefore likely don't colonize New
> Amsterdam, perhaps also
> no Dutch in south and east Asia and Indonesia.
> 8. France occupies all of North America north of
> New Spain, Texas, and
> New Mexico.
> 9. No American Revolution, and no liberal
> democratic America, at least
> then. New France under a viceroy.
> 10. Napoleon (assuming -- a big if -- that things
> are similar up to
> that point) conquers all of Europe, perhaps
> including Russia.
> 11. Hitler (ditto); France when it surrenders also
> surrenders Ireland,
> while New France becomes an independent republic, a
> la the way Brazil
> became independent in OTL. Does it fight Hitler?
> 12. Assuming Hitler fails to take the USSR, Stalin
> thereupon occupies
> all of Europe.
> 13. Etats Unis d'Amerique forms the opposite pole
> to the USSR.
> Michael McNeil
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