Re: [aloha-donblanding] Re: Bidding & Snipers
- Have you looked snipe or snide up in the dictionary? It's not a very good
thing. Now I know how the pros do it and why I miss out.
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- "Snipe" as the term applies to online auctions, has not hit the
dictionary yet. The closest definition refers to hitting a target
from a hidden position; i.e., the element of surprise. The folks on
the Bidding board (one of eBay's discussion groups) give awards for
really good snipes. Like 1 second, 1 penny, well below true max. A
zero-second snipe is a work of art!
Many eBayers use esnipe. I don't know if it's free or costs money.
Of course, automated sniping services are useless if the price already
exceeds one's preset bid amount. The highest bid wins, not
necessarily the last.
Just be cautious of "nuke" bids. Several years ago, I watched one
auction (not a DB item) end at $10,000. The item was worth maybe
$200. The high bidder nuked it ... but so did the underbidder. Not a
- When the snipe programs first started coming out maybe 5-6 years ago, some folks were
complaining that they were dishonest or unfair. I completely disagree.
As I see it, there are two types of auctions. Traditional ones where people keep bidding
until everyone has gone as high as they are willing to bid. The highest bidder wins.
...and timed auctions, where there is a set time limit (a week, for instance). The rules state
that you have a week to place a bid...and it doesn't matter if you bid in the first second or
the last...as long as you make the deadline. It doesn't make any sense at all to bid early
though. When there is a bidding war going back and forth between two or more parties,
it's an obvious sign of inexperienced ebayers...they are perhaps used to the traditional
auctions where that is the way to bid.
But with online auctions, the secret is getting in your high bid at the last second. Why, you
may ask, do you even have the auction listed for a whole week then? That's so that you can
attract the attention of as many people as possible. Over the course of the week, you hope
that a dozen or more people mark the auction as 'watched' so that they can participate
near the end.
As a seller (I've sold over 2,000 items on ebay) I like both kinds of bidders. I love when a
bidding war unfolds...but I also love the excitement of a last minute explosion of bids.
Ebay is extremely addictive!
Any one who thinks the custom of last second bidding is unfair is just experiencing "sour
grapes" in my opinion.
>just experiencing "sour
> Any one who thinks the custom of last second bidding is unfair is
> grapes" in my opinion.Keith has absolutely hit the nail squarely on the head vis a vis this
subject. Sniping is the only way to win a desireable item on eBay and
whether you use a program or bid in person there are other things to
consider in placing a bid. I long ago bookmarked the link (it may no
longer exist in eBay's updated version) to all buyer's individual
completed auctions. About 15 minutes before an auction ends, I look at
the high bidder's past wins and see what he/she is willing to pay for a
similar item so I have an idea of what their proxy* is. Then, when I
snipe, if I am willing to spend a similar amount, I go even higher with
my bid, which I place no more than 5 seconds before the auction closes.
*a proxy is the high bid place by a bidder to cover future increased
bids by potential other bidders, to the max which the first bidder is
willing to pay, which does not show.
I almost never lose an item. Bidding is a science, just like playing
poker, and it is foolish to place bids early on. You will be outbid,
unquestionably and only drive the ending price upward.
Like Keith, I find the bidding strategy exciting....one naif wrote on
an eBay board some years ago, "Bidding is so unfair! I think all the
auctions should be extended 10 minutes so we can all get our bids in!"
Obviously someone who does not "get it"!