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  • Cadia Los
    I queried my sister but she has dropped her Ancestry.com membership, which did not include the passenger lists database anyway. The passenger lists very well
    Message 1 of 12 , Sep 29, 2004
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      I queried my sister but she has dropped her Ancestry.com membership,
      which did not include the passenger lists database anyway. The
      passenger lists very well may have been culled from the newspapers!

      Learning about Ida's visit to Honolulu is the big deal here. I
      haven't read 1917 S-B's yet, but I'm about to put October-December on
      my microfilm list.

      We know that DB arrived in Honolulu on December 22, 1916 aboard the
      Great Northern via Hilo, and that he could not afford to disembark
      there. The ship's departure from California should be easy to find
      in newspapers, especially since the Great Northern was a brand new
      ship.

      For both 1939 and 1940, I know DB's travel dates and the ship or
      clipper on which he traveled -- well documented in the Star-Bulletin
      with both articles and passenger lists.

      For 1925, I was able to deduce December but not the exact date, based
      on material from both 1925 and 1926. (Remember, DB apparently broke
      his engagement to Ruth and headed for Los Angeles to do the Hollywood
      bit.)

      Actually, I may still be able to find the date -- arrivals and
      departures are well documented in the S-B, even without passenger
      lists. Now knowing the ship's name, I can go back and find the 2 or
      3 dates in December that she left Honolulu.

      If actual ships' logs are available for perusal, they may yield
      additional interesting details. Personally, I'd love to find
      original records of the clippers -- is there a Pan Am collection
      somewhere?

      In any case, each little bit helps ... so keep digging!

      ~~C~~
    • John A. Swearingen
      ... and that he could not afford to disembark there. I m dense, so it will have to be explained to me what this means. Can you spare a moment to indulge me,
      Message 2 of 12 , Sep 29, 2004
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        " ... and that he could not afford to disembark there."

        I'm dense, so it will have to be explained to me what this means. Can you spare a moment to indulge me, please ?
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Cadia Los
        To: aloha-donblanding@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:21 PM
        Subject: [aloha-donblanding] Re: San Francisco passenger lists


        I queried my sister but she has dropped her Ancestry.com membership,
        which did not include the passenger lists database anyway. The
        passenger lists very well may have been culled from the newspapers!

        Learning about Ida's visit to Honolulu is the big deal here. I
        haven't read 1917 S-B's yet, but I'm about to put October-December on
        my microfilm list.

        We know that DB arrived in Honolulu on December 22, 1916 aboard the
        Great Northern via Hilo, and that he could not afford to disembark
        there. The ship's departure from California should be easy to find
        in newspapers, especially since the Great Northern was a brand new
        ship.

        For both 1939 and 1940, I know DB's travel dates and the ship or
        clipper on which he traveled -- well documented in the Star-Bulletin
        with both articles and passenger lists.

        For 1925, I was able to deduce December but not the exact date, based
        on material from both 1925 and 1926. (Remember, DB apparently broke
        his engagement to Ruth and headed for Los Angeles to do the Hollywood
        bit.)

        Actually, I may still be able to find the date -- arrivals and
        departures are well documented in the S-B, even without passenger
        lists. Now knowing the ship's name, I can go back and find the 2 or
        3 dates in December that she left Honolulu.

        If actual ships' logs are available for perusal, they may yield
        additional interesting details. Personally, I'd love to find
        original records of the clippers -- is there a Pan Am collection
        somewhere?

        In any case, each little bit helps ... so keep digging!

        ~~C~~







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      • kenneth klein
        I can speak to the matter of how the drawings in Blanding s books were prepared, as I have the full set of original incidental (ie not full-page) drawings for
        Message 3 of 12 , Sep 29, 2004
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          I can speak to the matter of how the drawings in Blanding's books were prepared, as I have the full set of original incidental (ie not full-page) drawings for <A Grand Time Living>. These were ink drawings on stiff board, which were then photographed for preparation of metal printing plates. The original drawings were much bigger than the images that were printed in the book. The watermelon slice in the book, for instance, fits on one page, but the original drawing is about a foot-and-a-half across. When my father was the printer for <The American Bard>, he had a large collection of Don Blanding metal print plates in his shop, as they were routinely included in the magazine. He returned these to Grace Callahan, I believe, following Edythe Hope Genee's death.

          This doesn't mean, of course, that Don Blanding didn't carve wood blocks at some time. He had a lot of talents. But for book illustrations I think it is apparent that his medium was ink drawings.

          --Ken Klein

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          From: Cadia Los <duchess@...>
          Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:54 am
          Subject: [aloha-donblanding] Re: DB wood block

          > <I>He bought them in a lot from someone he thinks was named Earl
          > Washington who was the grandson of the carver of the blocks.</I>
          >
          > I have to agree that I don't think this wood block can be attributed
          > to Don Blanding. Even those with DB's initials may have no direct
          > connection. Any woodcarver can copy an artist's work in another
          > medium. It's called plagiarism.
          >
          > In a 6th grade art class, I remember making linoleum blocks and soap
          > carvings based on existing artwork. The task was to transfer an
          > image from one medium to another while being faithful to the
          > original. It's much harder than creating one's own designs, believe
          > me.
          >
          > Now, if you can establish that DB or his publisher commissioned the
          > carver to produce wood blocks of his drawings, that's another story.
          > Or if DB were the carver ... now that would be a find!
          >
          > I have sometimes wondered if DB himself might have dabbled in this
          > medium; after all, as a youngster he worked in leather and the two
          > processes are not so different. I do know that many people seem to
          > think that the drawings in DB's books are made from wood blocks.
          > That's so absurd I have to laugh aloud whenever I see the claim!
          >
          > Are these wood blocks worth the asking price? I doubt it. Before
          > investing any cash, I would want to document the provenance of the
          > blocks in much greater detail.
          >
          > ~~C~~
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        • tjmarkle@earthlink.net
          The woodblock print appears in Today is Here, page 107. The book print doesn t have DB on it either. So, what you think folks?? tj ... From: Cadia Los
          Message 4 of 12 , Sep 30, 2004
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            The woodblock print appears in Today is Here, page 107. The book print doesn't have DB on it either. So, what you think folks?? tj

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            From: Cadia Los <duchess@...>
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            Subject: [aloha-donblanding] Re: DB wood block

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            <I>He bought them in a lot from someone he thinks was named Earl <BR>
            Washington who was the grandson of the carver of the blocks.</I><BR>
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            I have to agree that I don't think this wood block can be attributed <BR>
            to Don Blanding.  Even those with DB's initials may have no direct <BR>
            connection.  Any woodcarver can copy an artist's work in another <BR>
            medium.  It's called plagiarism.<BR>
            <BR>
            In a 6th grade art class, I remember making linoleum blocks and soap <BR>
            carvings based on existing artwork.  The task was to transfer an <BR>
            image from one medium to another while being faithful to the <BR>
            original.  It's much harder than creating one's own designs, believe <BR>
            me.<BR>
            <BR>
            Now, if you can establish that DB or his publisher commissioned the <BR>
            carver to produce wood blocks of his drawings, that's another story. <BR>
            Or if DB were the carver ... now that would be a find!  <BR>
            <BR>
            I have sometimes wondered if DB himself might have dabbled in this <BR>
            medium; after all, as a youngster he worked in leather and the two <BR>
            processes are not so different.   I do know that many people seem to <BR>
            think that the drawings in DB's books are made from wood blocks. <BR>
            That's so absurd I have to laugh aloud whenever I see the claim!<BR>
            <BR>
            Are these wood blocks worth the asking price?  I doubt it.  Before <BR>
            investing any cash, I would want to document the provenance of the <BR>
            blocks in much greater detail.<BR>
            <BR>
            ~~C~~<BR>
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          • Cadia Los
            John ... I d forgotton I have not yet transcribed an article published in the S-B on Christmas Day, 1954, entitled Don Blanding Recalls -- Christmas 1916, His
            Message 5 of 12 , Oct 2, 2004
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              John ...

              I'd forgotton I have not yet transcribed an article published in the
              S-B on Christmas Day, 1954, entitled "Don Blanding Recalls --
              Christmas 1916, His First Holiday in Hawaii."

              A brief excerpt:

              Memories start in 1916. I was on my way for a visit home in Oklahoma
              before returning for another year of study at the Art Institute of
              Chicago with money earned in the harvest fields around Moose Jaw,
              Canada.

              Between trains in Kansas City, Missouri, I saw the stage show Bird of
              Paradise starting Lenore Ulric with real Hawaiian singers and
              dancers. Lenore pitched some fast curves which I caught . . . right
              in my imagination which seethed like Kilauea in the act where
              beautiful Luana barbecued herself in the lava pit of love.

              I asked the ticket seller at the station, "Where's Honolulu and how
              do I get there?"

              "It's five days and $90, second cabin," he said. (How did he know
              the size of my funds?) "The Great Northern is making a trip which
              will get you there on December 22. Want it?"

              Want it? It was the one thing that I had to have . . . at the time.

              I wasn't much use to my folks during my brief visit. I was already
              on my way to Hawaii except for moving the body.

              The memories are coming fast and clear. The Great Northern put in at
              Hilo before Honolulu on that trip.

              I shall never forget the impact of the great green-blue cabachon of
              mauna Loa against the raw turquoise sky of Hawaii. Unbelievable
              blends of melted emeralds, sapphires and lapis lazuli were in the
              waters. The coco palms on the shore waved with the luring grace of a
              hula dancer's arms. Rich colors and fragrances were wafting
              shipward, a potpourri of jungle, sea-weed, lava, cane and mixed lei-
              perfume.

              I didn't go ashore. The shore-trip cost money and I was saving my
              limited funds for down payment on a little grass house in Honolulu.
              Anyhow, I was getting about as much voltage as my wires could carry.
              I had known the vast empty horizontals of the Western prairies, the
              stark savage verticals of the Rocky Mountains and the fantasy and
              strangeness of Yellowstone Park. But I had no preparation for the
              lush, lavish beauty and the new dimensions of Hawaii. I stared until
              my eyes must have gone out like telescopes from my face. Remember, I
              was just 21 and a young 21 at that."

              Blanding goes on:

              Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve came on Sunday that year, so the
              whoopee and hurraws were turned loose Saturday night. Quotes [from
              the Advertiser or Star-Bulletin]: "Honolulu had Saturday night
              preview of Sunday Night Christmas Eve. Because Saturday night would
              be the last shopping night, Honolulu's stores were jammed. The
              narrow sidewalks were crowded with last-minute shoppers and merry
              makers."

              With my conditioning of northern Christmases with holly, mistletoe,
              snow, headcolds, long underwear, mufflers and sniffles, I kept
              saying, as I wandered through that happy, good-natured throng, "This
              is Mardi Gras. This isn't Christmas."

              Two quibbles about this 1954 article. In 1916 DB was 22, not 21, and
              Lenore Ulric did not appear in Bird of Paradise in Kansas City. (The
              production had a different star that year.) At the very beginning of
              the article, DB responds to his editor's question -- "When was your
              first Christmas in Hawaii?" -- by saying, "In 1915 or 1916, I don't
              remember which year."

              In many other 1950s articles, DB accurately reflects on his age and
              the passing years. I cannot quite fathom DB forgetting exactly when
              he arrived in Hawaii!

              ~~Cadia
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