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  • keith2draw
    Hope you re recovering well tj I m not trying to pinpoint anything from the SF Passenger lists...I was just playing around with a new feature on Ancestry.com,
    Message 1 of 12 , Sep 28, 2004
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      Hope you're recovering well tj

      I'm not trying to pinpoint anything from the SF Passenger lists...I
      was just playing around with a new feature on Ancestry.com, which I
      stumbled onto the other day. It doesn't really add anything to our
      timeline, except for the fact that Ida Blanding visited Don in 1917,
      which we didn't know before. I believe you can view an image of the
      ships log on Ancestry if you have a subscription, so no need to
      involve your friend (unless he can look up the ship's log from Dec.
      1916, when Don first arrived in Hawaii.)

      I can't decide if that woodblock is of Don's art or not. It looks
      kinda familiar, but that could be because the seller has listed it
      before on ebay. My books are still in boxes, but is it maybe from
      Today is Here??? Not sure.

      Keith
    • keith2draw
      Bev, Don s full-page illustrations were indeed more detailed than the one on ebay, but Don had many smaller drawings which appeared as decorations above or
      Message 2 of 12 , Sep 28, 2004
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        Bev,

        Don's full-page illustrations were indeed more detailed than the one
        on ebay, but Don had many smaller drawings which appeared as
        decorations above or below poems which were alot more simple like
        that. It looks familiar, but I just can't place it.

        Keith



        Bev said:
        > His are usually more intricate than that one is. Not as many line
        and shapes as Don used.
      • tjmarkle@earthlink.net
        My Master Mariner friend doesn t have any direct connections with such logs from that far back but he is checking around to see where such logs or info might
        Message 3 of 12 , Sep 29, 2004
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          My Master Mariner friend doesn't have any direct connections with such logs from that far back but he is checking around to see where such logs or info might be held if it still exists. He said, "don't hold yer breath on it". As to the woodblocks; I emailed the seller again for more info. All he could tell me was that he has a total of 9 blocks including the one he has listed on ebay. He bought them in a lot from someone he thinks was named Earl Washington who was the grandson of the carver of the blocks. Maybe Keith the super slueth can do something with that name. Some of the blocks have DB's initials on them. He is going to email photo's of them all. I suggested that I might be interested in buying the lot if he was so inclined. This would be deeeeeep pockets for me but I'm beginning to believe that these are real and might even be older than we think. Once I get the photo's I can research it a bit more via DB's books. I have several other woodblocks but they are not individually carved one's like these. My woodblocks came from Da Box out of the Vagabond House Inn. The newly discovered ones would definetely be one of a kind originals, being carved into actual wood. Anyone recognize the type of wood on this block? Could it be Koa? I thought Walnut wood at first but can't tell for sure.....if Koa it might actually place it in the Islands???? tj
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          Don's full-page illustrations were indeed more detailed than the one <BR>
          on ebay, but Don had many smaller drawings which appeared as <BR>
          decorations above or below poems which were alot more simple like <BR>
          that. It looks familiar, but I just can't place it.<BR>
          <BR>
          Keith<BR>
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          Bev said:<BR>
          > His are usually more intricate than that one is. Not as many line <BR>
          and shapes as Don used.<BR>
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        • Cadia Los
          He bought them in a lot from someone he thinks was named Earl Washington who was the grandson of the carver of the blocks. I have to agree that I don t
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            <I>He bought them in a lot from someone he thinks was named Earl
            Washington who was the grandson of the carver of the blocks.</I>

            I have to agree that I don't think this wood block can be attributed
            to Don Blanding. Even those with DB's initials may have no direct
            connection. Any woodcarver can copy an artist's work in another
            medium. It's called plagiarism.

            In a 6th grade art class, I remember making linoleum blocks and soap
            carvings based on existing artwork. The task was to transfer an
            image from one medium to another while being faithful to the
            original. It's much harder than creating one's own designs, believe
            me.

            Now, if you can establish that DB or his publisher commissioned the
            carver to produce wood blocks of his drawings, that's another story.
            Or if DB were the carver ... now that would be a find!

            I have sometimes wondered if DB himself might have dabbled in this
            medium; after all, as a youngster he worked in leather and the two
            processes are not so different. I do know that many people seem to
            think that the drawings in DB's books are made from wood blocks.
            That's so absurd I have to laugh aloud whenever I see the claim!

            Are these wood blocks worth the asking price? I doubt it. Before
            investing any cash, I would want to document the provenance of the
            blocks in much greater detail.

            ~~C~~
          • Cadia Los
            I queried my sister but she has dropped her Ancestry.com membership, which did not include the passenger lists database anyway. The passenger lists very well
            Message 5 of 12 , Sep 29, 2004
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              I queried my sister but she has dropped her Ancestry.com membership,
              which did not include the passenger lists database anyway. The
              passenger lists very well may have been culled from the newspapers!

              Learning about Ida's visit to Honolulu is the big deal here. I
              haven't read 1917 S-B's yet, but I'm about to put October-December on
              my microfilm list.

              We know that DB arrived in Honolulu on December 22, 1916 aboard the
              Great Northern via Hilo, and that he could not afford to disembark
              there. The ship's departure from California should be easy to find
              in newspapers, especially since the Great Northern was a brand new
              ship.

              For both 1939 and 1940, I know DB's travel dates and the ship or
              clipper on which he traveled -- well documented in the Star-Bulletin
              with both articles and passenger lists.

              For 1925, I was able to deduce December but not the exact date, based
              on material from both 1925 and 1926. (Remember, DB apparently broke
              his engagement to Ruth and headed for Los Angeles to do the Hollywood
              bit.)

              Actually, I may still be able to find the date -- arrivals and
              departures are well documented in the S-B, even without passenger
              lists. Now knowing the ship's name, I can go back and find the 2 or
              3 dates in December that she left Honolulu.

              If actual ships' logs are available for perusal, they may yield
              additional interesting details. Personally, I'd love to find
              original records of the clippers -- is there a Pan Am collection
              somewhere?

              In any case, each little bit helps ... so keep digging!

              ~~C~~
            • John A. Swearingen
              ... and that he could not afford to disembark there. I m dense, so it will have to be explained to me what this means. Can you spare a moment to indulge me,
              Message 6 of 12 , Sep 29, 2004
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                " ... and that he could not afford to disembark there."

                I'm dense, so it will have to be explained to me what this means. Can you spare a moment to indulge me, please ?
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                From: Cadia Los
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                Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:21 PM
                Subject: [aloha-donblanding] Re: San Francisco passenger lists


                I queried my sister but she has dropped her Ancestry.com membership,
                which did not include the passenger lists database anyway. The
                passenger lists very well may have been culled from the newspapers!

                Learning about Ida's visit to Honolulu is the big deal here. I
                haven't read 1917 S-B's yet, but I'm about to put October-December on
                my microfilm list.

                We know that DB arrived in Honolulu on December 22, 1916 aboard the
                Great Northern via Hilo, and that he could not afford to disembark
                there. The ship's departure from California should be easy to find
                in newspapers, especially since the Great Northern was a brand new
                ship.

                For both 1939 and 1940, I know DB's travel dates and the ship or
                clipper on which he traveled -- well documented in the Star-Bulletin
                with both articles and passenger lists.

                For 1925, I was able to deduce December but not the exact date, based
                on material from both 1925 and 1926. (Remember, DB apparently broke
                his engagement to Ruth and headed for Los Angeles to do the Hollywood
                bit.)

                Actually, I may still be able to find the date -- arrivals and
                departures are well documented in the S-B, even without passenger
                lists. Now knowing the ship's name, I can go back and find the 2 or
                3 dates in December that she left Honolulu.

                If actual ships' logs are available for perusal, they may yield
                additional interesting details. Personally, I'd love to find
                original records of the clippers -- is there a Pan Am collection
                somewhere?

                In any case, each little bit helps ... so keep digging!

                ~~C~~







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              • kenneth klein
                I can speak to the matter of how the drawings in Blanding s books were prepared, as I have the full set of original incidental (ie not full-page) drawings for
                Message 7 of 12 , Sep 29, 2004
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                  I can speak to the matter of how the drawings in Blanding's books were prepared, as I have the full set of original incidental (ie not full-page) drawings for <A Grand Time Living>. These were ink drawings on stiff board, which were then photographed for preparation of metal printing plates. The original drawings were much bigger than the images that were printed in the book. The watermelon slice in the book, for instance, fits on one page, but the original drawing is about a foot-and-a-half across. When my father was the printer for <The American Bard>, he had a large collection of Don Blanding metal print plates in his shop, as they were routinely included in the magazine. He returned these to Grace Callahan, I believe, following Edythe Hope Genee's death.

                  This doesn't mean, of course, that Don Blanding didn't carve wood blocks at some time. He had a lot of talents. But for book illustrations I think it is apparent that his medium was ink drawings.

                  --Ken Klein

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                  From: Cadia Los <duchess@...>
                  Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:54 am
                  Subject: [aloha-donblanding] Re: DB wood block

                  > <I>He bought them in a lot from someone he thinks was named Earl
                  > Washington who was the grandson of the carver of the blocks.</I>
                  >
                  > I have to agree that I don't think this wood block can be attributed
                  > to Don Blanding. Even those with DB's initials may have no direct
                  > connection. Any woodcarver can copy an artist's work in another
                  > medium. It's called plagiarism.
                  >
                  > In a 6th grade art class, I remember making linoleum blocks and soap
                  > carvings based on existing artwork. The task was to transfer an
                  > image from one medium to another while being faithful to the
                  > original. It's much harder than creating one's own designs, believe
                  > me.
                  >
                  > Now, if you can establish that DB or his publisher commissioned the
                  > carver to produce wood blocks of his drawings, that's another story.
                  > Or if DB were the carver ... now that would be a find!
                  >
                  > I have sometimes wondered if DB himself might have dabbled in this
                  > medium; after all, as a youngster he worked in leather and the two
                  > processes are not so different. I do know that many people seem to
                  > think that the drawings in DB's books are made from wood blocks.
                  > That's so absurd I have to laugh aloud whenever I see the claim!
                  >
                  > Are these wood blocks worth the asking price? I doubt it. Before
                  > investing any cash, I would want to document the provenance of the
                  > blocks in much greater detail.
                  >
                  > ~~C~~
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                • tjmarkle@earthlink.net
                  The woodblock print appears in Today is Here, page 107. The book print doesn t have DB on it either. So, what you think folks?? tj ... From: Cadia Los
                  Message 8 of 12 , Sep 30, 2004
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                    The woodblock print appears in Today is Here, page 107. The book print doesn't have DB on it either. So, what you think folks?? tj

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                    Subject: [aloha-donblanding] Re: DB wood block

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                    <I>He bought them in a lot from someone he thinks was named Earl <BR>
                    Washington who was the grandson of the carver of the blocks.</I><BR>
                    <BR>
                    I have to agree that I don't think this wood block can be attributed <BR>
                    to Don Blanding.  Even those with DB's initials may have no direct <BR>
                    connection.  Any woodcarver can copy an artist's work in another <BR>
                    medium.  It's called plagiarism.<BR>
                    <BR>
                    In a 6th grade art class, I remember making linoleum blocks and soap <BR>
                    carvings based on existing artwork.  The task was to transfer an <BR>
                    image from one medium to another while being faithful to the <BR>
                    original.  It's much harder than creating one's own designs, believe <BR>
                    me.<BR>
                    <BR>
                    Now, if you can establish that DB or his publisher commissioned the <BR>
                    carver to produce wood blocks of his drawings, that's another story. <BR>
                    Or if DB were the carver ... now that would be a find!  <BR>
                    <BR>
                    I have sometimes wondered if DB himself might have dabbled in this <BR>
                    medium; after all, as a youngster he worked in leather and the two <BR>
                    processes are not so different.   I do know that many people seem to <BR>
                    think that the drawings in DB's books are made from wood blocks. <BR>
                    That's so absurd I have to laugh aloud whenever I see the claim!<BR>
                    <BR>
                    Are these wood blocks worth the asking price?  I doubt it.  Before <BR>
                    investing any cash, I would want to document the provenance of the <BR>
                    blocks in much greater detail.<BR>
                    <BR>
                    ~~C~~<BR>
                    <BR>
                    <BR>
                    <BR>
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                  • Cadia Los
                    John ... I d forgotton I have not yet transcribed an article published in the S-B on Christmas Day, 1954, entitled Don Blanding Recalls -- Christmas 1916, His
                    Message 9 of 12 , Oct 2, 2004
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                      John ...

                      I'd forgotton I have not yet transcribed an article published in the
                      S-B on Christmas Day, 1954, entitled "Don Blanding Recalls --
                      Christmas 1916, His First Holiday in Hawaii."

                      A brief excerpt:

                      Memories start in 1916. I was on my way for a visit home in Oklahoma
                      before returning for another year of study at the Art Institute of
                      Chicago with money earned in the harvest fields around Moose Jaw,
                      Canada.

                      Between trains in Kansas City, Missouri, I saw the stage show Bird of
                      Paradise starting Lenore Ulric with real Hawaiian singers and
                      dancers. Lenore pitched some fast curves which I caught . . . right
                      in my imagination which seethed like Kilauea in the act where
                      beautiful Luana barbecued herself in the lava pit of love.

                      I asked the ticket seller at the station, "Where's Honolulu and how
                      do I get there?"

                      "It's five days and $90, second cabin," he said. (How did he know
                      the size of my funds?) "The Great Northern is making a trip which
                      will get you there on December 22. Want it?"

                      Want it? It was the one thing that I had to have . . . at the time.

                      I wasn't much use to my folks during my brief visit. I was already
                      on my way to Hawaii except for moving the body.

                      The memories are coming fast and clear. The Great Northern put in at
                      Hilo before Honolulu on that trip.

                      I shall never forget the impact of the great green-blue cabachon of
                      mauna Loa against the raw turquoise sky of Hawaii. Unbelievable
                      blends of melted emeralds, sapphires and lapis lazuli were in the
                      waters. The coco palms on the shore waved with the luring grace of a
                      hula dancer's arms. Rich colors and fragrances were wafting
                      shipward, a potpourri of jungle, sea-weed, lava, cane and mixed lei-
                      perfume.

                      I didn't go ashore. The shore-trip cost money and I was saving my
                      limited funds for down payment on a little grass house in Honolulu.
                      Anyhow, I was getting about as much voltage as my wires could carry.
                      I had known the vast empty horizontals of the Western prairies, the
                      stark savage verticals of the Rocky Mountains and the fantasy and
                      strangeness of Yellowstone Park. But I had no preparation for the
                      lush, lavish beauty and the new dimensions of Hawaii. I stared until
                      my eyes must have gone out like telescopes from my face. Remember, I
                      was just 21 and a young 21 at that."

                      Blanding goes on:

                      Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve came on Sunday that year, so the
                      whoopee and hurraws were turned loose Saturday night. Quotes [from
                      the Advertiser or Star-Bulletin]: "Honolulu had Saturday night
                      preview of Sunday Night Christmas Eve. Because Saturday night would
                      be the last shopping night, Honolulu's stores were jammed. The
                      narrow sidewalks were crowded with last-minute shoppers and merry
                      makers."

                      With my conditioning of northern Christmases with holly, mistletoe,
                      snow, headcolds, long underwear, mufflers and sniffles, I kept
                      saying, as I wandered through that happy, good-natured throng, "This
                      is Mardi Gras. This isn't Christmas."

                      Two quibbles about this 1954 article. In 1916 DB was 22, not 21, and
                      Lenore Ulric did not appear in Bird of Paradise in Kansas City. (The
                      production had a different star that year.) At the very beginning of
                      the article, DB responds to his editor's question -- "When was your
                      first Christmas in Hawaii?" -- by saying, "In 1915 or 1916, I don't
                      remember which year."

                      In many other 1950s articles, DB accurately reflects on his age and
                      the passing years. I cannot quite fathom DB forgetting exactly when
                      he arrived in Hawaii!

                      ~~Cadia
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