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  • Tristan
    What was the Kanagawa treaty?
    Message 1 of 12 , Mar 31 3:35 PM
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      What was the Kanagawa treaty?
    • DJ
      http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob25.html DJ
      Message 2 of 12 , Apr 8, 2007
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        http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob25.html
        DJ



        --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan"
        <nitsirtthecommie@...> wrote:
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        > What was the Kanagawa treaty?
        >
      • nitsirt
        That s the one. I apologize to everyone, I have been so out for a while. Work has kept me rather busy and we have had a lot going on around the house. Those
        Message 3 of 12 , Apr 8, 2007
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          That's the one. I apologize to everyone, I have been so out for a while. Work has kept me rather busy and we have had a lot going on around the house. Those who follow the buddventures site have noticed I haven't done much there either. Hopefully it will get better.

          DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:
          http://web.jjay. cuny.edu/ ~jobrien/ reference/ ob25.html
          DJ

          --- In allthingshistory@ yahoogroups. com, "Tristan"
          <nitsirtthecommie@ ...> wrote:
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          > What was the Kanagawa treaty?
          >




        • Kim Noyes
          So who broke the treaty first? ... -- Check out my Myspace Profile at http://www.myspace.com/kimusinteruptus Check out http://www.atascaderoalumni.org if you
          Message 4 of 12 , May 15, 2007
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            So who broke the treaty first?

            On 4/8/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:

            http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob25.html
            DJ

            --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan"
            <nitsirtthecommie@...> wrote:
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            > What was the Kanagawa treaty?
            >




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          • nitsirt
            Um.... good question. It was superceded by the Treaty of Amity and Commerce, but I would have to dig more to find when/how it would have been nulified (I
            Message 5 of 12 , May 15, 2007
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              Um.... good question. It was superceded by the Treaty of Amity and Commerce, but I would have to dig more to find when/how it would have been nulified (I assume leading up to WW2)

              Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@...> wrote:
              So who broke the treaty first?

              On 4/8/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@ yahoo.com> wrote:
              http://web.jjay. cuny.edu/ ~jobrien/ reference/ ob25.html
              DJ

              --- In allthingshistory@ yahoogroups. com, "Tristan"
              <nitsirtthecommie@ ...> wrote:
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              > What was the Kanagawa treaty?
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            • DJ
              I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn t been broken really. Thanks DJ ... 40yahoogroups.com , ... http://www.myspace.com/kimusinteruptus ... Atascadero
              Message 6 of 12 , May 15, 2007
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                I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn't been broken really.
                Thanks
                DJ


                --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@...>
                wrote:
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                > So who broke the treaty first?
                >
                > On 4/8/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:
                > >
                > > http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob25.html
                > > DJ
                > >
                > > --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com<allthingshistory%
                40yahoogroups.com>,
                > > "Tristan"
                > > <nitsirtthecommie@> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > What was the Kanagawa treaty?
                > > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
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              • Kim Noyes
                Oh, I understand that but what I meant was who technically and/or effectively broke that treaty? ... -- Check out my Myspace Profile at
                Message 7 of 12 , May 15, 2007
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                  Oh, I understand that but what I meant was who technically and/or effectively broke that treaty?

                  On 5/15/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:

                  I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn't been broken really.
                  Thanks
                  DJ

                  --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@...>
                  wrote:
                  >
                  > So who broke the treaty first?
                  >
                  > On 4/8/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob25.html
                  > > DJ
                  > >
                  > > --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com<allthingshistory%
                  40yahoogroups.com>,
                  > > "Tristan"
                  > > <nitsirtthecommie@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > What was the Kanagawa treaty?
                  > > >
                  > >
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                  > >
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                • DJ
                  I imagine it would depend mostly on POV (point of view). Realistically speaking I think dropping bombs on things makes it fairly clear that a treaty has been
                  Message 8 of 12 , May 21, 2007
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                    I imagine it would depend mostly on POV (point of view). Realistically
                    speaking I think dropping bombs on things makes it fairly clear that a
                    treaty has been broken in a way that is fairly hard to mistake.
                    Thanks
                    DJ


                    --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@...>
                    wrote:
                    >
                    > Oh, I understand that but what I meant was who technically and/or
                    > effectively broke that treaty?
                    >
                    > On 5/15/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn't been broken really.
                    > > Thanks
                    > > DJ
                    > >
                  • Kim Noyes
                    I agree with you and don t the least bit sympathize with the Japanese in that war. However, did we technically start it with the economic embargoes? ... --
                    Message 9 of 12 , May 21, 2007
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                      I agree with you and don't the least bit sympathize with the Japanese in that war.
                      However, did we technically start it with the economic embargoes?

                       
                      On 5/21/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:

                      I imagine it would depend mostly on POV (point of view). Realistically
                      speaking I think dropping bombs on things makes it fairly clear that a
                      treaty has been broken in a way that is fairly hard to mistake.
                      Thanks
                      DJ

                      --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@...>
                      wrote:
                      >
                      > Oh, I understand that but what I meant was who technically and/or
                      > effectively broke that treaty?
                      >
                      > On 5/15/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn't been broken really.
                      > > Thanks
                      > > DJ
                      > >




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                    • Andrew Jackson
                      Hello Kim The embargo aimed at getting Japan off Chiang Kai Shek s back forced Japan to invade Indochina and Indonesia to get oil, rubber, and other resources.
                      Message 10 of 12 , May 21, 2007
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                        Hello Kim
                         
                        The embargo aimed at getting Japan off Chiang Kai Shek's back forced Japan to invade Indochina and Indonesia to get oil, rubber, and other resources.  Admiral Yamamoto was not going to do that with the Pacific Fleet at his back. 
                         
                        Andrew

                        Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@...> wrote:
                        I agree with you and don't the least bit sympathize with the Japanese in that war.
                        However, did we technically start it with the economic embargoes?

                         
                        On 5/21/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                        I imagine it would depend mostly on POV (point of view). Realistically
                        speaking I think dropping bombs on things makes it fairly clear that a
                        treaty has been broken in a way that is fairly hard to mistake.
                        Thanks
                        DJ

                        --- In allthingshistory@ yahoogroups. com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@...>
                        wrote:
                        >
                        > Oh, I understand that but what I meant was who technically and/or
                        > effectively broke that treaty?
                        >
                        > On 5/15/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@ ...> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn't been broken really.
                        > > Thanks
                        > > DJ
                        > >




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                      • Andrew Jackson
                        Hello Kim The embargo aimed at getting Japan off Chiang Kai Shek s back forced Japan to invade Indochina and Indonesia to get oil, rubber, and other resources.
                        Message 11 of 12 , May 21, 2007
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                          Hello Kim
                           
                          The embargo aimed at getting Japan off Chiang Kai Shek's back forced Japan to invade Indochina and Indonesia to get oil, rubber, and other resources.  Admiral Yamamoto was not going to do that with the Pacific Fleet at his back. 
                           
                          Andrew

                          Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@...> wrote:
                          I agree with you and don't the least bit sympathize with the Japanese in that war.
                          However, did we technically start it with the economic embargoes?

                           
                          On 5/21/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                          I imagine it would depend mostly on POV (point of view). Realistically
                          speaking I think dropping bombs on things makes it fairly clear that a
                          treaty has been broken in a way that is fairly hard to mistake.
                          Thanks
                          DJ

                          --- In allthingshistory@ yahoogroups. com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@...>
                          wrote:
                          >
                          > Oh, I understand that but what I meant was who technically and/or
                          > effectively broke that treaty?
                          >
                          > On 5/15/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@ ...> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn't been broken really.
                          > > Thanks
                          > > DJ
                          > >




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                        • DJ
                          Interesting, arguable but interesting. I find it a little less then compelling to be told that an embargo on military supplies, and a very light one at that is
                          Message 12 of 12 , May 26, 2007
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                            Interesting, arguable but interesting. I find it a little less then
                            compelling to be told that an embargo on military supplies, and a
                            very light one at that is grounds for a casus belli.
                            thanks
                            DJ


                            --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Jackson
                            <dradjackson@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Hello Kim
                            >
                            > The embargo aimed at getting Japan off Chiang Kai Shek's back
                            forced Japan to invade Indochina and Indonesia to get oil, rubber,
                            and other resources. Admiral Yamamoto was not going to do that with
                            the Pacific Fleet at his back.
                            >
                            > Andrew
                            >
                            > Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@...> wrote:
                            > I agree with you and don't the least bit sympathize
                            with the Japanese in that war.
                            > However, did we technically start it with the economic embargoes?
                            >
                            >
                            > On 5/21/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@...> wrote: I imagine
                            it would depend mostly on POV (point of view). Realistically
                            > speaking I think dropping bombs on things makes it fairly clear
                            that a
                            > treaty has been broken in a way that is fairly hard to mistake.
                            > Thanks
                            > DJ
                            >
                            > --- In allthingshistory@yahoogroups.com, "Kim Noyes" <kimnoyes@>
                            > wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Oh, I understand that but what I meant was who technically and/or
                            > > effectively broke that treaty?
                            > >
                            > > On 5/15/07, DJ <pommefritte2001@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > I imagine that until WWII, the treaty hadn't been broken really.
                            > > > Thanks
                            > > > DJ
                            > > >
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