Re: [albanach] Scottish Catholicism 16th Century
- At 8:54 AM -0400 9/8/02, Matthew A. C. Newsome wrote:
>I have the whole set (published so far) and they are excellent. I'mThis is going to be true of most of the books dealing with the
>afraid that this will tell you more about the figure, personalities, and
>politics of the Reformation than any actual rites and usages just prior
Scottish church and the Reformation. If I recall correctly, the book
actually addressing *practice* in England was somewhat of a
revolutionary approach ;-) [One that I wish more people would take!)
I don't have any specific books about the Scottish Reformation to
recommend atm, but in general I would advise the general path that I
normally recommend: start with general academic histories of
Scotland, use their footnotes and bibliographies to find more
specific works, etc. For this I think Lynch's more recently published
history is going to be of the most use (especially since the
Reformation is in his period of specialization). See
I also get the impression that this is another one of those areas
where you have to be very careful in your sources, and seek recent
academic histories rather than popular ones (or old ones) in order to
avoid serious religious bias.
I suspect that journal articles may be the works most likely to
address the sort of daily life and belief aspect. (One journal to
look out for in particular is the Innes Review -- Catholicism and
Catholics in Scotland is the focus of that journal, but it is a
respected academic journal rather than a some dubious propaganda
>By and large, you can expect the same rites and usages in the ScottishI'm not sure that this is really going to say very much about
>Catholic church as you will find in England and on the continent,
>because the entire Western Church was under the same Patriarch, the
>Bishop of Rome. Not that there will not be any peculiarities, but they
>won't be great. But if you want to learn about the specific character
>of the Church in Scotland, I suggest that the best way to learn this
>would be to read about the saints that came out of Scotland.
character of the Scottish church prior to the Reformation --
especially given that the saints date to a much earlier period. In
fact, most of them date to before Scotland came into line with the
Sharon Krossa, krossa@...
Medieval Scotland (including resources for names, clothing, history, & more):
- "Sharon L. Krossa" wrote:
> I'm not sure that this is really going to say very much aboutSure it will. Because even if the particular saint came from an earlier
> character of the Scottish church prior to the Reformation --
> especially given that the saints date to a much earlier period. In
> fact, most of them date to before Scotland came into line with the
> Roman church!
period than you may be interested in, his or her biography may have been
written at a later date, and it would have been read for centuries
beyond that. Churches would be built and dedicated to these saints, and
their cult would prosper and grow, and inspire many devotions. If you
want to learn about the Church in Scotland, look at the saints that it
produced, and look at what other people were saying about them. In my
opinion, if you want to get a good idea of the "character" of the
Scottish Church, this is the best route to go.
Even if you want to learn about the state of the Church in 1500, you
have to have as your background the history of the Church in 1400, 1300,
1200, and so on, to even begin to make sense of it. So a good grounding
in the historical background is a must.
Thanks for the Innes Review reference. Do they have a web page or an
address for more info?
- I wrote:
> Thanks for the Innes Review reference. Do they have a web page or anShould have just done a web search first. A quick google search gave me
> address for more info?